New House Bill Allows Everyone To Carry In New York Except People From New York
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Unless you pay hundreds of dollars and take 2 days off of work to attend MANDATORY training.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
It doesn’t. Get “around” it. What I understand, He is saying all current carry permit holder’s in NY would legally carry in the other 49 States. It’s not written to give non carry permitted people the right to carry. Now, I assume, People in other States that don’t need to go through all the hoops to get a permit, would need some documentation or possibly their State driver’s license, would be adequate. NY would gum up the works even if passed.
Ho hum... Yawn!
Nothin ado about nothin...
Never happens in NY!
Should Congress pass a national Reciprocity, NY will find ways to obfuscate, block, bury the ability to exercise your 2A Rights! Bank on it!
The training component of being able to carry, should be challenged! Bruen made clear, that two tiered encumbrances put in place to Defacto restrict 2A Rights is unconstitutional! If you don't need training in order to Vote, then requiring it in order to exercise 2A is not valid! Unconstitutional... Not sure why this wasn't immediately challenged post Bruen!
But is NY... NY NY...
Nothin ado about nothin...
Never happens in NY!
Should Congress pass a national Reciprocity, NY will find ways to obfuscate, block, bury the ability to exercise your 2A Rights! Bank on it!
The training component of being able to carry, should be challenged! Bruen made clear, that two tiered encumbrances put in place to Defacto restrict 2A Rights is unconstitutional! If you don't need training in order to Vote, then requiring it in order to exercise 2A is not valid! Unconstitutional... Not sure why this wasn't immediately challenged post Bruen!
But is NY... NY NY...
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Or, just get a non-resident permit from any other state....
It says "if you can carry in any state, you can carry in every state" It doesn't require that permit to be from your home state.
The only "home state" provision is that if your home state doesn't require a permit at all (constitutional carry), then you can carry in all states too.
This would completely gut the entire NY permit scheme, since nobody is going to jump through any more hoops than the easiest state requires.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Hmm, buy a piece of property in a CC state. Sounds like a good idea.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Don't even need to do that.
Just get a non-resident permit. There are tons of easy ones out there.
PA takes like an hour last I knew.
Some you can do mail order.
Koz
6.5 Creedmoor
Brilliant! Right up until the gestapo in Albany figures out how to once again skru with their subjects.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
New York has been ignoring, violating a whole Amendment for decades and decades, what's a little law to the tyranny that rules this shithole of totalitarianism.
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ManualF150
.308 Win
Totally agree.
Parzival
.44 mag
In PA you need to have a permit from your home state. Not sure about other states that do non-resident permits, I only have PA and NY.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Lets hope this bill even passes.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
NH does, or did, mail order non resident permits for $100.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I'm kinda shocked NY hasn't tried to impose restrictions on anyone carrying in any state.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
Sshh!!! Letty is listening! Some of us are still within spitting distance…
jimc
.223 Rem
If this passes, I predict the CCIA Part 2 will include that you can carry anyplace you can now, but your firearm needs to be a bolt action handgun with a 3 round mag- because if magazine capacity can be restricted to 10, why not 3?
Florida permits are easy to get by mail if you have any kind of firearm training. They will send you an application to fill out, and a fingerprint card to take to your local PD to get processed. Have a passport photo taken at your local Walgreens or other place where they do them. Mail it back to them with a check, and in a few weeks, you will have your Florida permit.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Ahh, PA is out then.
There are several that don't have that requirement.
AZ requires a class, but has no requirement for you to have a home state permit.
Not sure if there is an online version of the class or not, it is all safety and legal theory, no actual gun handling required.
JRtraderny
6.5 Creedmoor
Actually I have a Savage Striker that fits that description so I'm all set !!
Well I WOULD 3D print one, but NY is one step ahead.
NY does not have a 2nd Amendment as part of its State Constitution... Just sayin...
Again, this bill will never succeed in this retched State! Some RINO's will pretend to support it only to disappear later down the line when they'd need to stand up and be counted!
NY is a lost cause! None of their (State) arguments hold validity! And it's malfeasance towards residents exercising their 2A Rights is well established and exhibited!
Nothing changing in our lifetime, or a dozen before us... Forget the future!
Again, this bill will never succeed in this retched State! Some RINO's will pretend to support it only to disappear later down the line when they'd need to stand up and be counted!
NY is a lost cause! None of their (State) arguments hold validity! And it's malfeasance towards residents exercising their 2A Rights is well established and exhibited!
Nothing changing in our lifetime, or a dozen before us... Forget the future!
byron
.308 Win
- Article 2, Section 4 of the New York Civil Rights Law states that the right to bear arms cannot be infringed.
OwnTheRide
.223 Rem
I highly recommend the AZ permit. It's inexpensive, easy to obtain and renew, and has great coverage. AZ training requirements are very easy to meet and not state-specific:
Florida training requirements are similar - basically any NRA course, hunter safety course, or military training. The permit is more expensive than AZ, but it has a seven year expiration instead of five. It also has pretty decent coverage. The application is somewhat lengthy, and IIRC it required fingerprints while AZ did not.
JRtraderny
6.5 Creedmoor
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
subsonic
.44 mag
Correct. Utah, on the other hand, only requires a home-state permit for states that have reciprocity with Utah. Since New York doesn’t have reciprocity with anyone, you can get an Utah permit without a New York permit. I believe there’s places in PA that have Utah-compliant classes.