How do we stop crime in NY?

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spat said:
How about exponentially increasing sentences.

Your sentence for a crime is multiplied by the number of times you have been previously convicted of felonies.

This would have to be coupled with an end to prosecutorial discretion. You charge the exact crime they committed or nothing at all. You don't get to pretend that car theft was shoplifting because you're afraid you're throwing off some racial quota.
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On top of this, fix the education system so kids have more skills when entering the adult world, teach more real world skills, and have motivational teachers that inspire all kids. Reinstill the values of a nuclear family, stop incentivizing single moms having 11 kids with 11 different fathers by capping welfare benefits, make prison a place to be feared, require hard labor, limited to zero internet, tv, or "comforts" of life for all serious violent and predatory crimes. I could go on and on.
 
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fresch said:
What if schools had, call it shop class and home economics, where children could start to learn real skills.
Not sure if this could be done, perhaps we could get a grant to study this for 10 years, to see if it could fly.
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It starts at home ... Two socially responsible parents. Children need a role model to emulate . Dole out punishment (not excessive ) when needed.
 
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fresch said:
What if schools had, call it shop class and home economics, where children could start to learn real skills.
Not sure if this could be done, perhaps we could get a grant to study this for 10 years, to see if it could fly.
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My kids school in PA has both. I was rather surprised the NY schools they had attended did not.
 
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Jsmegs77 said:
My kids school in PA has both. I was rather surprised the NY schools they had attended did not.
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When I went to school in ny it started in middle school.
Auto shop, wood shop, metal shop, electricity, for the guys home econ for the girls.
Big machines that cut off fingers, etc.
 
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This is not how to stop crime in NY.

6th felony conviction, 2.5-5 yrs in state prison. Something tells me he will be working on felony #7 as soon as he gets out.

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GOSHEN – A 52-year-old Middletown man has been sentenced in Orange County Court to 2 ½ to five years in state prison on his previous guilty plea to a burglary charge. This is the sixth felony conviction for John Redner. AS alleged, on July 12, 2024, just after midnight, an employee of a nearby...
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This comes to mind…

Countries with the most severe punishments for crimes include:
These countries are noted for their harsh criminal justice systems and the severity of punishments they impose.
 
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Mk44 said:
This comes to mind…

Countries with the most severe punishments for crimes include:
These countries are noted for their harsh criminal justice systems and the severity of punishments they impose.
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If stoning people to death because they had a drink or had premarital sex is your thing then I have good news for you. Places that do this already exist. You listed some options, take your pick and head on over!
 
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Well common sense dictates you empower the police to enforce the laws, the prosecutors to seek appropriate punishments and judges to ensure justice is carried out fairly.

But NYS government has been built to crush common sense at every level.

So we’d need a new state government.
 
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pjzwtl said:
Remember being able to weld in the 8th grade? Good times
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Do you have any idea how many Mp5 and HK53s I'd have if I knew how to weld?

OP: It's simple. Criminals go back to the bottom of the importance list, instead of ahead of their victims. Criminals spend time in jail, instead of me spending more time in booking writing reports and redundant paperwork than they do incarcerated.
 
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The Romans never had any large prisons , yet they they kept the peace in an empire without them


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You get hit with this and I will garrentee you not commit another crime for at least six weeks , the time it takes to recover . Oh your a second offender ? you get twice as many if your stupid enough to commit another crime . Want to go for a third tough guy? We'll start removing body parts, The historically proven method of corporal punishment,

Fear works , A lot of criminals dont fear prison , that needs to be fixed
 
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They also had renewable modes of transportation,
"Ramming Speed!"
That helped keep down crime; plus losing a hand, head etc.
 
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