Lockport man arrest with scary guns after a traffic stop

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they all look like legal guns to me .. but what is this legal / illegal guns shit anyways

there is no such thing as a illegal gun since all guns are legal per the 2A ..

ohhh i know .. its a illegal law classifying something ...

they will disappear once the court case is done to a cozy safe in a leo's (Revenue Agents) home ..
 
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Drug use has been proven to dull the memory, long term................short fuses, poor judgement.......probably just did a panama red.,,,,,crusin' along, to some tunes.
 
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I didn`t see any illegal guns or magazines there.... so i`m guessing they locked the 45 year old dumbazz up for the dope?
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Apparently the moron had a tinted windshield with these guns in “plain view”.
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I assume once the window was rolled down, the officer could plainly see the guns inside the vehicle.

Let's play it's always the same stupid things that get me busted (mix and match by choosing 1 or more items from each column):

column 1. run a red light or stop sign, speed, drive recklessly, unsafe lane change, weaving and over the lines because you are on your phone, not wearing a seat belt, road rage, illegal tint on front windows or windshield, lights not operable or other obvious mechanical issues, overly loud exhaust, blasting your music, break checking, passing stopped school bus, in no passing zone, in a turn lane or on the shoulder.

column 2. no license, expired license, wrong or expired tags, stolen car, no insurance, long criminal history, outstanding warrants, obviously under the influence, belligerent/uncooperative/rude, drugs/drug paraphernalia/guns in plain sight, non-NY compliant semi auto long guns, >10 round mags, hand guns without a permit, strong smell of alcohol or marijuana, other drugs detected by canine, kids or pets left alone in vehicle or in a hot vehicle, violent argument with spouse/GF while driving, threatening bodily harm to someone in public.
 
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dean3690 said:
I assume once the window was rolled down, the officer could plainly see the guns inside the vehicle.

Let's play it's always the same stupid things that get me busted (mix and match by choosing 1 or more items from each column):

column 1. run a red light or stop sign, speed, drive recklessly, unsafe lane change, weaving and over the lines because you are on your phone, not wearing a seat belt, road rage, illegal tint on front windows or windshield, lights not operable or other obvious mechanical issues, overly loud exhaust, blasting your music, break checking, passing stopped school bus, in no passing zone, in a turn lane or on the shoulder.

column 2. no license, expired license, wrong or expired tags, stolen car, no insurance, long criminal history, outstanding warrants, obviously under the influence, belligerent/uncooperative/rude, drugs/drug paraphernalia/guns in plain sight, non-NY compliant semi auto long guns, >10 round mags, hand guns without a permit, strong smell of alcohol or marijuana, other drugs detected by canine, kids or pets left alone in vehicle or in a hot vehicle, violent argument with spouse/GF while driving, threatening bodily harm to someone in public.
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Lets play it how it should be ..

if your out in public you have all your RIGHTS ..
 
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What the F is a Community Stabilization Unit ?
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maybe this

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Saltwater60 said:
Apparently the moron had a tinted windshield
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Yup.
too bad the moron attempted to have something that ONLY police and politicians are allowed to have.
The gall of someone wanting actual equality.
And then, of course, all of these guns would be perfectly legal in almost every other State in the Union, and no one would bat an eye upon seeing them in a backseat, gunrack, or trunk.

Violation of rights should be an arrestable offense no matter who does it or why. Follow un-constitutional laws? get arrested for rights violations.
 
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"On Patrol" is the new cops show on REELZ.................plenty of people claim their "rots" for speeding, no inspection, loud exhaust, and other discoverable offenses, like warrants, unpaid tickets, no ins, unregistered vehicle, drug stash, guns.................
 
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Grimscale said:
Yup.
too bad the moron attempted to have something that ONLY police and politicians are allowed to have.
The gall of someone wanting actual equality.
And then, of course, all of these guns would be perfectly legal in almost every other State in the Union, and no one would bat an eye upon seeing them in a backseat, gunrack, or trunk.

Violation of rights should be an arrestable offense no matter who does it or why. Follow un-constitutional laws? get arrested for rights violations.
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While o don’t disagree with your premise we all know that’s not the way it is here. You’re intelligent so let me as you if you’d do what he did? Would you drive around in a car clearly illegal with these guns begging to be pulled over? Not to mention it seems very likely he’s a known drug factor in the area since they found a descent amount of drugs in his car as well. I get how it could be and wish it were that way.
i just had my son’s car tinted to block Uv from damaging the interior and it’s a joke what’s legal. His tint is illegal and it’s 70% on the front with 50% on the back with a 50% visor. Lady told me visor is illegal and two front windows aren’t allowed to be tinted on his car for some reason. Not sure if it’s true but it’s so light my wife didn’t think the front windows were done. I don’t need him getting tickets though so I did what I did but he surely won’t be driving around with illegal guns.
I would also get it if this guy was trying to create a situation for a lawsuit to advance 2a rights but I’m certain that’s not the case either. I do agree with your statements but reality of our situation makes this a moronic move.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
While o don’t disagree with your premise we all know that’s not the way it is here. You’re intelligent so let me as you if you’d do what he did? Would you drive around in a car clearly illegal with these guns begging to be pulled over? Not to mention it seems very likely he’s a known drug factor in the area since they found a descent amount of drugs in his car as well. I get how it could be and wish it were that way.
i just had my son’s car tinted to block Uv from damaging the interior and it’s a joke what’s legal. His tint is illegal and it’s 70% on the front with 50% on the back with a 50% visor. Lady told me visor is illegal and two front windows aren’t allowed to be tinted on his car for some reason. Not sure if it’s true but it’s so light my wife didn’t think the front windows were done. I don’t need him getting tickets though so I did what I did but he surely won’t be driving around with illegal guns.
I would also get it if this guy was trying to create a situation for a lawsuit to advance 2a rights but I’m certain that’s not the case either. I do agree with your statements but reality of our situation makes this a moronic move.
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You're not wrong, but it's still victim blaming.

It isn't wise for a woman to walk around a sketchy neighborhood in a short skirt late at night either, but when she gets attacked it's still 100% the fault of her attackers.

This is like that.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
While o don’t disagree with your premise we all know that’s not the way it is here. You’re intelligent so let me as you if you’d do what he did? Would you drive around in a car clearly illegal with these guns begging to be pulled over?
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I know it's not reality, and you are correct that I would not be doing this.

On the other hand constantly bowing to tyrants and their gestapo isn't getting things changed either.

I'm not sure what the solution is here. Flee? Fight? Attempt to sue (we all know how effective THAT has been). All have their positives and negatives.
Can't flee: it's against my principles, but, more importantly, I'm responsible for other people who would suffer if I were gone.
Can't fight: Similar reason as above. Can't help family if I'm dead or locked up.
Can't sue: I don't have enough money to spend the next 20 years in courts that predominantly rule on behalf of the oppressors. Nor do I have enough time left on this Earth.
 
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I know it's not reality, and you are correct that I would not be doing this.

On the other hand constantly bowing to tyrants and their gestapo isn't getting things changed either.

I'm not sure what the solution is here. Flee? Fight? Attempt to sue (we all know how effective THAT has been). All have their positives and negatives.
Can't flee: it's against my principles, but, more importantly, I'm responsible for other people who would suffer if I were gone.
Can't fight: Similar reason as above. Can't help family if I'm dead or locked up.
Can't sue: I don't have enough money to spend the next 20 years in courts that predominantly rule on behalf of the oppressors. Nor do I have enough time left on this Earth.
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I’m right there with you man. I get it. I think about leaving this state probably daily yet I’m unsure it will ever happen. Could I do it? Yep I could but I don’t for all the same reasons as you. My principles reason is my family not out of obligation to this state or to stay here and fight it. I make good money and so does my wife but I still don’t have enough nor is it wise to fight the state. It would likely bankrupt me and ruin my retirement plans. It’s a hard and complicated place to be in honestly. I hope my kids leave this state so we can follow but then our parents will probably need us so I’ll be stuck here again. My siblings and my wife’s siblings will not be much help to our parents and families so most of it will fall on us as usual.
 
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spat said:
You're not wrong, but it's still victim blaming.

It isn't wise for a woman to walk around a sketchy neighborhood in a short skirt late at night either, but when she gets attacked it's still 100% the fault of her attackers.

This is like that.
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I get that but don’t be that stupid please. A tinted front windshield is like a magnet to get pulled over or a justification. I’m guessing he was a known actor in the gang/drug scene up there. I tried looking it up but this is all that comes up but with that number of illegal guns with the serial numbers removed and being transported with cocaine and fentanyl is guess he was not one of us.
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Tinted windshield results in a large weapons arrest

On April 24, 2025, Troopers out of SP Lockport arrested Michael S. Wrzos, 45 of Lockport, NY
troopers.ny.gov troopers.ny.gov

Now the question is they made such a big deal about it how long will he go away for? I’ll bet they drop the gun charges and release him to drug counseling and he never sees jail.
 
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13 felony counts..........9 counts, large capacity mags, and 4 counts FOR possession of silencer , drugs, and illegal weapons.....................yeah he will walk.............NOT!!!

This is NYS, not Alabama

Tinted windshield has been verified-----$500 fine.

A Poster Child for Sovereigns?
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I get that but don’t be that stupid please. A tinted front windshield is like a magnet to get pulled over or a justification. I’m guessing he was a known actor in the gang/drug scene up there. I tried looking it up but this is all that comes up but with that number of illegal guns with the serial numbers removed and being transported with cocaine and fentanyl is guess he was not one of us.
troopers.ny.gov

Tinted windshield results in a large weapons arrest

On April 24, 2025, Troopers out of SP Lockport arrested Michael S. Wrzos, 45 of Lockport, NY
troopers.ny.gov troopers.ny.gov

Now the question is they made such a big deal about it how long will he go away for? I’ll bet they drop the gun charges and release him to drug counseling and he never sees jail.
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Salt,
he will be the perfect poster child for the NYS Queen`s election campaign.

She has an election coming up >>>>>>> "WE`RE KEEPING YOU SAFE, NY!"

See what i did there brother? She will USE this to her benefit, 100%! That`s what filthy rotten snakes do!
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I get that but don’t be that stupid please. A tinted front windshield is like a magnet to get pulled over or a justification. I’m guessing he was a known actor in the gang/drug scene up there. I tried looking it up but this is all that comes up but with that number of illegal guns with the serial numbers removed and being transported with cocaine and fentanyl is guess he was not one of us.
troopers.ny.gov

Tinted windshield results in a large weapons arrest

On April 24, 2025, Troopers out of SP Lockport arrested Michael S. Wrzos, 45 of Lockport, NY
troopers.ny.gov troopers.ny.gov

Now the question is they made such a big deal about it how long will he go away for? I’ll bet they drop the gun charges and release him to drug counseling and he never sees jail.
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Oh, I have no illusions that this was some upstanding citizen. I am sure society would be better off if they put him under the jail.

What I have a problem with is people who think it's "good policing" to find some pretense to stop and search like this.

That's terrible policing. Absolutely terrible.

Good policing would be to identify a real crime, then investigate it and gather evidence that he committed it, then hunt him down and arrest him.

Trolling for traffic violations and hoping to get lucky by finding a bad guy is absolutely despicable and we as a society should demand better.
 
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spat said:
Oh, I have no illusions that this was some upstanding citizen. I am sure society would be better off if they put him under the jail.

What I have a problem with is people who think it's "good policing" to find some pretense to stop and search like this.

That's terrible policing. Absolutely terrible.

Good policing would be to identify a real crime, then investigate it and gather evidence that he committed it, then hunt him down and arrest him.

Trolling for traffic violations and hoping to get lucky by finding a bad guy is absolutely despicable and we as a society should demand better.
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I have to agree with @spat in this regard. I've been stopped a few times in my life, as well as having had the cops show up at my door. And while I try to be as law abiding as possible, I don't like it when cops use some other pretense, or other excuse to snoop and look for something.

Once when riding my hog, I was stopped at a "safety check" roadblock in Buffalo by the purple tie squad. They demanded my D/L. registration, and POI, which I provided. And then they tried to search my saddlebags. When I refused, I got the old "Why not if you've got nothing to hide BS...". Detained me and refused to let me go. I flat out refused and told him to go get a search warrant. After about 15 minutes, he gave up, and I went on my way. I had NOTHING improper in my saddlebags. It was the principle that mattered to me.

Many years ago, someone gave me a piece of advice that when the cops show up at your door and want to come inside and talk, don't let them in. They're not there for a social call, and not there to your benefit.

One time the cops showed up at my door in freezing Buffalo weather to ask me questions about something. I was home and just wearing shorts and a shirt. They wanted to come inside and talk, - and were busy peering past me and looking inside even as I walked outside and closed the door behind me. I stood outside in my bare feet and answered their questions until they left. They kept saying things like "Hey, it's cold out here, - why don't we go inside...' I was freezing cold, but my answer to them was, "No thanks, I'm fine out here...".
 
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