Epstein Files ..FBI withholds documents.

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So, the catch is that we already *knew* Trump is listed in the files. They shared a couple flights between NY and FL, and they attended some of the same social events.

So, Musk isn't lying there. But, if that's all that's listed, then it's still a nothing burger.

Not sure what this squabble will result in. I don't think it's all an act, but I also don't think it will last.

I suspect it's all just over some policy differences. Trump isn't fiscally conservative enough for Elon's tastes, and Elon probably doesn't like the giant omnibus spending bills anymore than anyone else.

Not sure who convinced Trump this needed to be "one big beautiful bill", but I think it was a mistake. Same policies should have been a series of dozens of bills all voted on individually.

Force the legislators to take individual stands on issues, stop letting them hide in the weeds of these giant monstrosities.
 
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spat said:
Not sure who convinced Trump this needed to be "one big beautiful bill", but I think it was a mistake. Same policies should have been a series of dozens of bills all voted on individually.
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I agree ,, Trump should be saying .. OH!!!!! look at all these Beautiful little bills .. one for each issue ....


or bring back line item veto and take 2 months and go through the Big Bill and start whacking .,.
 
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Acer-m14 said:
I agree ,, Trump should be saying .. OH!!!!! look at all these Beautiful little bills .. one for each issue ....


or bring back line item veto and take 2 months and go through the Big Bill and start whacking .,.
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IIRC SCOTUS shot down the line item veto.

Bringing it back would be difficult.

If you're going to that much effort, might be better to pass an ammendment that outlaws multi-issue bills altogether.
 
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Pam Bondi under scrutiny over Jeffrey Epstein client list revelation

A Department of Justice memo says there is no evidence Epstein kept a "client list" or blackmailed prominent individuals.
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"Attorney General Pam Bondi is facing scrutiny after a memo from the Department of Justice (DOJ) said there was no evidence that the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein kept a "client list" or was murdered."


Is anyone actually surprised at this?
 
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Grimscale said:
www.newsweek.com

Pam Bondi under scrutiny over Jeffrey Epstein client list revelation

A Department of Justice memo says there is no evidence Epstein kept a "client list" or blackmailed prominent individuals.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

"Attorney General Pam Bondi is facing scrutiny after a memo from the Department of Justice (DOJ) said there was no evidence that the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein kept a "client list" or was murdered."


Is anyone actually surprised at this?
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At best he was an ally asset, at worst he was out asset.
 
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It won't happen at all. This will never be resolved through politics.
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This is how I think it works. We get someone like Bondi spouting off about how arrests and indictment are imminent. One night some CIA mole gets past her security and into her bedroom, wakes her with a gun pointed at her head and tells her there is another agent in her kids bedroom right now. End of investigation, they now have a new swamp rat on their team.
 
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stokes said:
This is how I think it works. We get someone like Bondi spouting off about how arrests and indictment are imminent. One night some CIA mole gets past her security and into her bedroom, wakes her with a gun pointed at her head and tells her there is another agent in her kids bedroom right now. End of investigation, they now have a new swamp rat on their team.
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This is why I stated it will never end politically.
 
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stokes said:
This is how I think it works. We get someone like Bondi spouting off about how arrests and indictment are imminent. One night some CIA mole gets past her security and into her bedroom, wakes her with a gun pointed at her head and tells her there is another agent in her kids bedroom right now. End of investigation, they now have a new swamp rat on their team.
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I think some people do go to DC with good intentions. And then something always seems to happen to those good intentions. It makes one go, hmmm, I wonder.
 
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Way back "we" were trying to start a Co. up and went to Cali. for a trade show. The company that we were thinking of buying their system was begging to have us up to their private rooms for cocktails and to look over their bid.
The older one of us, I was 27 he was 45, said no way because they will get us up there, get us drunk, have callgirls , and the next thing you know you will be forced to sign on the dotted line.

My bet, this is what happens in politics;
 
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stokes said:
So much for Trump "dismantling the deep state". They are very much alive and still well in control. Next announcement will be that the "released" JFK files prove Oswald acted alone.
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The deep state has a long and deadly reach .... One man cannot take it on. No doubt powerful people are connected to everything Epstein
 
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I think some people do go to DC with good intentions. And then something always seems to happen to those good intentions. It makes one go, hmmm, I wonder.
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A story I remember reading stated the CIA just "happens" to meet with all incoming legislators and lets them know they have been watching them all along. A nice way of telling them their dirty laundry could be leaked at a moment's notice if he or she doesn't vote the right way.

I also read the price to get the big beautiful bill was the release of this ridiculous epstein story. Is it true? Who knows but nothing surprises me anymore.
 
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tirwin1 said:
A story I remember reading stated the CIA just "happens" to meet with all incoming legislators and lets them know they have been watching them all along. A nice way of telling them their dirty laundry could be leaked at a moment's notice if he or she doesn't vote the right way.

I also read the price to get the big beautiful bill was the release of this ridiculous epstein story. Is it true? Who knows but nothing surprises me anymore.
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Notice how V P Vance acts now? Pretty strange i`d say.
 
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I believe he killed himself, and its plausible that he was coerced into doing so..

Something like, "We will make sure your family is taken care of, you just have toboff youself".

Or, "You can either off yourself, or you will be placed in general population with the rapists, and we qill make sure you stay alive for a long time".

I also believe that the FIB in NY deleted all files when they knew Trump was gonna win.
 
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there was no client list that belonged to Epstein on the hard drive ...


ok .. so the client list on the hard drive belongs to hummm i wonder ,..

Ghislaine Maxwell :idk: :idk: :idk: :idk:


we will be releasing the hard drive but it will take a while we enhance the video for you ( from bongino ) WTF does it need enhancing ..

heaven forbid some actually do something like a Snowden / Wiki Leak ....
 
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