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'I'm finally home:' Milford teen returns home from ICE detention

A Milford teenager is back home with his family after spending six days in a federal immigration detention center.
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Oh, but he's a good kid. He's a good illegal.

Maybe.

But I've had it with Media Lies. They lie about everything.

Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Saint George Floyd. All upstanding citizens.

Oh, Kilmar Garcia, too. MS 13 and wife beater. But a good father ... :banghead:

No problem. We will simply evaluate every last one of the nearly 50 million illegals on a case by case basis.

Has any prominent Democrat ever, even once, identified a Bad Illegal ?

We're lost.
 
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This is a tough one for me. He was forced to come here at 6 illegally. Did he know he was committing a crime and should be be held liable for that at 6? Up until recently he was a minor and his parents should have done the right thing. I believe the kid he didn’t really know what was going on or how this works. Does this solve the problem? No. Should he be deported, I’m not sure about that and this is not the way to hold onto the whitehouse. His dad should be caught and deported but then what do you do with the kid. Tough call in my eyes.
I did stupid crap when I was a kid and if I was held responsible for all of it I’d be in a very different position than I am now.
I’m sure many here won’t agree with this but this is not the way to win people’s hearts and minds and allowing politicians to do what’s right for the USA.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
This is a tough one for me. He was forced to come here at 6 illegally. Did he know he was committing a crime and should be be held liable for that at 6? Up until recently he was a minor and his parents should have done the right thing. I believe the kid he didn’t really know what was going on or how this works. Does this solve the problem? No. Should he be deported, I’m not sure about that and this is not the way to hold onto the whitehouse. His dad should be caught and deported but then what do you do with the kid. Tough call in my eyes.
I did stupid crap when I was a kid and if I was held responsible for all of it I’d be in a very different position than I am now.
I’m sure many here won’t agree with this but this is not the way to win people’s hearts and minds and allowing politicians to do what’s right for the USA.
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He's not being punished at all.

131 Million people live in Mexico. I'll bet the vast majority are as content as any average American.

He's done very well. His entire family (all of who should join him), have been fed, clothed, housed, educated, at our expense.

I can barely afford my own family. I cannot afford to support 50 Million Foreign Nationals. Many of whom, including his dad, are very dangerous criminals.

You may not agree with me, but 100MPH through a residential neighborhood, multiple times, perhaps even drunk, is not something I take lightly. Nor should you.

And you know damn well the media has not identified a "Bad Illegal" yet. I am certainly not accepting the tall tale this man (18 years old), is a solid model citizen. Maybe he is. Mexico can use him.

If we stall and cry over every Foreign National who should be going home, America is doomed.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Up until recently he was a minor and his parents should have done the right thing.
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Yes, but once he turned 18 he should have sought a way to become a legal citizen (and yes, there should be a path for that for people who were brought here illegally as minors).
And he should have kept on the straight and narrow while doing it!
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You may not agree with me, but 100MPH through a residential neighborhood, multiple times, perhaps even drunk, is not something I take lightly. Nor should you.
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I absolutely agree here. It was his responsibility to act like an adult who wants to become an American Citizen. Instead he decided to act like an immature illegal invader.

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And you know damn well the media has not identified a "Bad Illegal" yet.
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to be honest, 90% of the media are from the Party that can't even define what a woman is.

To me it's simple.
"Illegal" only due to being in the country without permission or papers? Otherwise obeying the laws and being productive? That would be a "Good Illegal".

Anything less is a "Bad Illegal".

But I find "common sense" is not really all that common.
 
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Grimscale said:
Yes, but once he turned 18 he should have sought a way to become a legal citizen (and yes, there should be a path for that for people who were brought here illegally as minors).
And he should have kept on the straight and narrow while doing it!

I absolutely agree here. It was his responsibility to act like an adult who wants to become an American Citizen. Instead he decided to act like an immature illegal invader.


to be honest, 90% of the media are from the Party that can't even define what a woman is.

To me it's simple.
"Illegal" only due to being in the country without permission or papers? Otherwise obeying the laws and being productive? That would be a "Good Illegal".

Anything less is a "Bad Illegal".

But I find "common sense" is not really all that common.
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Agree he should have sought a way to become legally allowed to stay here
 
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He's not being punished at all.

131 Million people live in Mexico. I'll bet the vast majority are as content as any average American.

He's done very well. His entire family (all of who should join him), have been fed, clothed, housed, educated, at our expense.

I can barely afford my own family. I cannot afford to support 50 Million Foreign Nationals. Many of whom, including his dad, are very dangerous criminals.

You may not agree with me, but 100MPH through a residential neighborhood, multiple times, perhaps even drunk, is not something I take lightly. Nor should you.

And you know damn well the media has not identified a "Bad Illegal" yet. I am certainly not accepting the tall tale this man (18 years old), is a solid model citizen. Maybe he is. Mexico can use him.

If we stall and cry over every Foreign National who should be going home, America is doomed.
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I had no idea he was speeding. I thought he was the one arrested at school. Of course I don’t support this and I agree with you mostly.
If he’s not a criminal a child brought here at 6 deserves an opportunity to do the right thing IMO. If he’s committed crimes outside of something stupid like stealing a candy bar or it’s relative good bye.
Also I do feel for you struggling to afford things and I understand that. My wife and I make good money and we are not rolling in it. Partly because we have two kids in college and just bought a car for my youngest but you almost need to make $150-200,000 these days to have a cushion.
 
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I had no idea he was speeding. I thought he was the one arrested at school. Of course I don’t support this and I agree with you mostly.
If he’s not a criminal a child brought here at 6 deserves an opportunity to do the right thing IMO. If he’s committed crimes outside of something stupid like stealing a candy bar or it’s relative good bye.
Also I do feel for you struggling to afford things and I understand that. My wife and I make good money and we are not rolling in it. Partly because we have two kids in college and just bought a car for my youngest but you almost need to make $150-200,000 these days to have a cushion.
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To be clear I am unaware of any crimes (other than being here) committed by the 18 year old.

His father, on the other hand, is known to have been apprehended multiple times for reckless driving (speeding in residential neighborhoods). And is now a fugitive.

If we allow the 18 year old to remain, every one of the 50 million will have a tear jerking sob story.

Every Illegal must go home.
 
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Grimscale said:
Yes, but once he turned 18 he should have sought a way to become a legal citizen (and yes, there should be a path for that for people who were brought here illegally as minors).
And he should have kept on the straight and narrow while doing it!

I absolutely agree here. It was his responsibility to act like an adult who wants to become an American Citizen. Instead he decided to act like an immature illegal invader.


to be honest, 90% of the media are from the Party that can't even define what a woman is.

To me it's simple.
"Illegal" only due to being in the country without permission or papers? Otherwise obeying the laws and being productive? That would be a "Good Illegal".

Anything less is a "Bad Illegal".

But I find "common sense" is not really all that common.
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I am unaware if the 18 year old Milford Man is productive. No mention is made of him ever working in any job, even mowing lawns.

I have no expectations he would ever be productive.
 
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I have no sympathy, because people let this happen by ignoring everything for far to long.
We`re circling the toilet bowl. When WE go down, the whole world will follow.

Humans are their own worst enemy.
 
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Grimscale said:
Yes, but once he turned 18 he should have sought a way to become a legal citizen (and yes, there should be a path for that for people who were brought here illegally as minors).
And he should have kept on the straight and narrow while doing it!

I absolutely agree here. It was his responsibility to act like an adult who wants to become an American Citizen. Instead he decided to act like an immature illegal invader.


to be honest, 90% of the media are from the Party that can't even define what a woman is.

To me it's simple.
"Illegal" only due to being in the country without permission or papers? Otherwise obeying the laws and being productive? That would be a "Good Illegal".

Anything less is a "Bad Illegal".

But I find "common sense" is not really all that common.
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Honestly, the answer is to drive across to Mexico and apply at the nearest consulate and pretend you were never in the US.
 
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CaseHardened said:
To be clear I am unaware of any crimes (other than being here) committed by the 18 year old.

His father, on the other hand, is known to have been apprehended multiple times for reckless driving (speeding in residential neighborhoods). And is now a fugitive.

If we allow the 18 year old to remain, every one of the 50 million will have a tear jerking sob story.

Every Illegal must go home.
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No question father should be gone then.
 
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