Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - Sold Nuclear Tech to the USSR (story from 1950s)

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It has been reported that a Top Secret report concerning the bombing of Iranian Nuclear Facilities was leaked. To CNN

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Leaked DIA Report: Iranian Nuclear Sites Sealed Up but Not Destroyed (Update)

DIA report reveals Iran's nuclear sites were sealed but not destroyed after US strikes.
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The online summaries on the Rosenbergs leave me with more questions than answers.

1: Obviously the leak is meant to harm the USA and benefit its enemies. Is it Treason? Does it rise to the level of the Rosenberg's crimes?
2: Could and should the leaker receive the same punishment?
3: Are there any situations where a News Outlet can be legally compelled to reveal its sources? I maintain that bar should be extremely high, but if treason does not meet the bar.....
 
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The whole idea that Iranians would build these sites deeply buried, but easily accessible to old technology bombs in NATO arsenal is dumb. Common sense says if you are going to dig that far, dig some more down and sideways. You need to read intelligence report for that?
 
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Harvard has been teaching foreign nationals all the latest technology that is being developed here in the U.S. for hundreds of years
 
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Wen Ho Lee a CCP spy who worked under Bill Clinton gave missle tech to the CCCP.
Bill Clinton gave nuke tech to N Korea.
Hilary sold Canadian and US Uranium mines, to Rostrom, a Russian Co.

Obama is almost certainly, an escaped 1981 Brinks Bandit with Billy Ayers, gave Iran billions of dollars in cash........ likely killed the chef...and so the circle is always spinning with Dems for our opposition.
 
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Mosinitis said:
The whole idea that Iranians would build these sites deeply buried, but easily accessible to old technology bombs in NATO arsenal is dumb. Common sense says if you are going to dig that far, dig some more down and sideways. You need to read intelligence report for that?
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Every subterranean bunker of significant size begins with finding a mountain.

The V2 Factories in the Hartz Mountains, Yucca Mountain Nuclear Depository, etc., are mined either horizontally or a slight downwards angle.

Other methods are impractical when you need depth, and, of course, vehicle access.

The other Iranian facilities are reportedly much shallower, and may be simply excavated as an open trench and then built over.

Old Technology Aerial Bombs traditionally explode upon impact with the surface. They can't stop the WWII V2 factories, nor Iranian underground Centrifuges.
 
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The prosecution and execution of a former President would simply look bad.

But the execution of a low level leaker ... nameless and faceless until now? Especially if a white male (let's face facts), would be acceptable to the majority of Americans.
 
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Mosinitis said:
The whole idea that Iranians would build these sites deeply buried, but easily accessible to old technology bombs in NATO arsenal is dumb. Common sense says if you are going to dig that far, dig some more down and sideways. You need to read intelligence report for that?
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They built them deeply enough that no weapon in the world could reach them.

So we designed the MOP specifically to do that.

It is the *only* non nuclear weapon in the world capable of doing that, and the nineteen B2s are the only planes *in the world* capable of dropping them.

Going deeper gets exponentially more expensive.

What does going sideways get you ? The whole point of going under a mountain is to gain more depth.

If you go sideways, you just come out from under the mountain and end up with *less* cover.

They would drop the bombs on the actual facility, whether it has a 500 yard entrance tunnel or 5000.
 
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Our disgusting history of Laissez-faire in regards to treason began when Jane Fonda visited North Vietnam, and gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

It was clearly documented, but she was never prosecuted.

Since then treason has been considered acceptable, even commendable.

This must stop .... NOW.

The person who released this Top Secret document must be discovered, arrested, adjudicated, and executed.

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They built them deeply enough that no weapon in the world could reach them.

So we designed the MOP specifically to do that.

It is the *only* non nuclear weapon in the world capable of doing that, and the nineteen B2s are the only planes *in the world* capable of dropping them.

Going deeper gets exponentially more expensive.

What does going sideways get you ? The whole point of going under a mountain is to gain more depth.

If you go sideways, you just come out from under the mountain and end up with *less* cover.

They would drop the bombs on the actual facility, whether it has a 500 yard entrance tunnel or 5000.
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Penetration is only 200ft and even that is debatable. There is also a big assumption that we know accurate information of underground labyrinths, but whatever........


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  • Penetration: (debated) There is debate regarding the penetration capabilities of the bomb. The US Air Force has said that the GBU-57 can penetrate up to 200 ft (60 m) of unspecified material before exploding.[44] The BBC reports that analysts at Janes say the weapon can penetrate about 200 ft (60 m) of earth or 60 ft (18 m) of concrete.[32] This is consistent with a separate source which suggests penetration of up to 60 ft (18 m) into reinforced concrete with a compressive strength of 5,000 psi (34 MPa) and 8 ft (2.4 m) into 10,000 psi (69 MPa) reinforced concrete.[12]
 
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Mosinitis said:
Penetration is only 200ft and even that is debatable. There is also a big assumption that we know accurate information of underground labyrinths, but whatever........


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GBU-57A/B MOP - Wikipedia

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  • Penetration: (debated) There is debate regarding the penetration capabilities of the bomb. The US Air Force has said that the GBU-57 can penetrate up to 200 ft (60 m) of unspecified material before exploding.[44] The BBC reports that analysts at Janes say the weapon can penetrate about 200 ft (60 m) of earth or 60 ft (18 m) of concrete.[32] This is consistent with a separate source which suggests penetration of up to 60 ft (18 m) into reinforced concrete with a compressive strength of 5,000 psi (34 MPa) and 8 ft (2.4 m) into 10,000 psi (69 MPa) reinforced concrete.[12]
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Yes, *one* bomb can do that.

When you drop multiples on the same hole they can go deeper.

Basically it's 200 feet of rock. The first one turns that rock into much softer rubble, so the second one can penetrate deeper.

There is a diminishing return, but the first few down the hole will increase the depth significantly.

Plus, the airforce spent a boatload of money for an "improved" version specifically because of those Iranian facilities when they started building them. It was reportedly "successful", so who knows what the current ones can do.
 
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