Dad of 2 arrested for too much 2A in NY (Ghost Gun trafficking related)

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Another sacrificial lamb bites the dust? Could this be a 2A gun group`s dream case?

Had this been in a 2A state vs communist NYS, nobody would have done anything about it, because it`s, L-E-G-A-L!!!
 
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Not legal in NYS..............SCOTUS refused to hear SNOPES AW ban case, and may never agree to hear one like it..................this guy is not being denied his right to make ghost guns by NYS alone........SCOTUS ruled in Vanderstock..basically no ghost guns......even in free states it is a dying thing and a problem to sell them.

He will do his time for sure.

Many merchants will not send firearm spare parts or kits to NYS anymore, too.
 
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Not legal in NYS..............SCOTUS refused to hear SNOPES AW ban case, and may never agree to hear one like it..................this guy is not being denied his right to make ghost guns by NYS alone........SCOTUS ruled in Vanderstock..basically no ghost guns......even in free states it is a dying thing and a problem to sell them.

He will do his time for sure.

Many merchants will not send firearm spare parts or kits to NYS anymore, too.
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SCOTUS got THAT case, wrong. If only they hadn`t Arkcansided Scalia.
 
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Once again I want to know how he was discovered. We never get that information.

*edit* this article divulges it. He sold 4 PMF 3 were extra illegal in NY to undercover cops. He is a dumbass and gets no sympathy from me.

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Long Island’s alleged ghost gun kingpin arrested, over 100 firearms seized in Suffolk County’s biggest weapons bust ever

An alleged gun smuggler has been arrested for making and selling homemade firearms and accessories with 3D printers in what Suffolk County is calling its largest ghost gun bust in history.
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Problem is he was engaged in a commercial enterprise and reselling the manufactured firearms. Tisk Tisk...

You can make anything you want for personal use, and there's no way the State will allow that inside a courtroom! Buuuuut!

Something like this is a different flavor! I'm all 2A, but guy isn't too smart is he! Because someone else got jammed up and rolled on this guy without a doubt!

Anyways!
 
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Problem is he was engaged in a commercial enterprise and reselling the manufactured firearms. Tisk Tisk...

You can make anything you want for personal use, and there's no way the State will allow that inside a courtroom! Buuuuut!

Something like this is a different flavor! I'm all 2A, but guy isn't too smart is he! Because someone else got jammed up and rolled on this guy without a doubt!

Anyways!
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I keep going through the USA Constitution, and i`m not seeing anything in there about this stuff that they jammed him with :smirk:
 
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• 12 desktop 3-D printers
• Industrial machinery for milling lower receivers
• Thousands of rounds of ammunition and assorted weapon parts
• Accessory gun features banned in New York, such as threaded barrels, pistol grips and telescoping stocks.

Other than hype, why would any of the above legal item even be mentioned?
 
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repete said:
• 12 desktop 3-D printers
• Industrial machinery for milling lower receivers
• Thousands of rounds of ammunition and assorted weapon parts
• Accessory gun features banned in New York, such as threaded barrels, pistol grips and telescoping stocks.

Other than hype, why would any of the above legal item even be mentioned?
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The "Accessory gun features" aren't banned, only if they are on semi autos. They can still be used on AR patterned bolt rifles like the RPR and Unitah. Shows how fucking stupid and uninformed the Suffolk DA is.

Neither is "gun parts" or ammo. Suffolk county you can buy long guns that aren't semi auto with only a driver license.

Industrial machinery is exactly what it is. So if you have a drill press, CNC, metal lathe, or router now you are a criminal??

And 3D printers are used for a myriad of hobbies, not just for 3D printing "ghost guns".

As Repete said, its just hype. They are trying to vilify anything gun related. While they are at it, you may as well ban all mom and pop hardware stores, Home Depot, and Lowes while they are at it. Oh, and don't forget any blocks of metal since they can be milled into any frame or receiver.
 
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Cooolone said:
You can make anything you want for personal use, and there's no way the State will allow that inside a courtroom!
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There have been dozens of cases in recent years of people being busted for making PMFs for their private use. They go to court, then they go to prison. There is no magic courtroom in NY that recognizes the Constitution over State law
 
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repete said:
• 12 desktop 3-D printers
• Industrial machinery for milling lower receivers
• Thousands of rounds of ammunition and assorted weapon parts
• Accessory gun features banned in New York, such as threaded barrels, pistol grips and telescoping stocks.

Other than hype, why would any of the above legal item even be mentioned?
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Because it was used in the commission of a crime. The same way if one is breaking and entering a hammer and prybar become "burglar tools" which is a separate charge in itself.
 
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Because it was used in the commission of a crime. The same way if one is breaking and entering a hammer and prybar become "burglar tools" which is a separate charge in itself.
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Hmm, as a law abiding person, I never thought of it that way.
 
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Because it was used in the commission of a crime. The same way if one is breaking and entering a hammer and prybar become "burglar tools" which is a separate charge in itself.
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And the charges that all above items were used in the commission of a crime is based on conjecture. If there was no observation of said items being used in manufacturing of said illegal items, it is speculation.
 
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Has anyone ever sat on a jury?

Defense attys are prohibited from such speculation and wild theories.............guy is stone cold guilty in NYS...............

States rights............think that the prosecution will not bring up SCOTUS LASTEST-- VANDERSTOCK?
That pretty much eliminates building and SELLING ghost guns, in the entire USA.

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None of the items noted of course are the problem at all. And no, it says nothing in the Constitution about murdering people either, but we don't do that do we. And the precedent in manufacturing arms for private use is well established.

In spite of all that, the State of NY has also well established and continually exhibit it's MALFEASANCE towards any citizen exercising their 2A RIGHTS! We know, again, and again, how the State of NY doesn't not give a fuck what the SCOTUS has ruled! (See Bruen)...

But this guy was doing shit that was undoubtedly going to blow up on him, literally! And too bad for him! He knew the risk... Same thing if you took the Anarchist Cookbook and decided to make some nitro! Just because you can doesn't mean you should... Or just accept the potential consequences! Lmao!
 
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There are no natural rights, except to breathe, eat, defecate..........10,000 years of rule by Kings, etc, saw to that reality.

The 2nd was a restriction....prohibiting women, slaves, indians, Tories, French, Spanish, criminals, from gun ownership. The 1781 Articles of Confederation that we formed, had no such restrictions.....................was unworkable.

The NYS Sullivan laws simply ENFORCED THAT original set of prohibitions.

Today, the SCOTUS/State gun restrictions, are practical prohibitions to keep ghost guns, SILENCERS, SBR'S MG'S, from CRIMINAL ELEMENTS............ BLM/Antifa/Illegals, and most women, slaves, indians, etc, due to the NICS background check..............a Constitutional good thing....many have bad records................NOT AN INFRINGEMENT.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact with itself, allowing the arming of criminal scum due to some "infringment" nonsense...................INFRINGMENT, only refers to INFRINGINNG law abiding citizens, in free states.................WE CAN LIVE ITH IT.
 
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Zerex said:
There are no natural rights, except to breathe, eat, defecate..........10,000 years of rule by Kings, etc, saw to that reality.

The 2nd was a restriction....prohibiting women, slaves, indians, Tories, French, Spanish, criminals, from gun ownership. The 1781 Articles of Confederation that we formed, had no such restrictions.....................was unworkable.

The NYS Sullivan laws simply ENFORCED THAT original set of prohibitions.

Today, the SCOTUS/State gun restrictions, are practical prohibitions to keep ghost guns, SILENCERS, SBR'S MG'S, from CRIMINAL ELEMENTS............ BLM/Antifa/Illegals, and most women, slaves, indians, etc, due to the NICS background check..............a Constitutional good thing....many have bad records................NOT AN INFRINGEMENT.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact with itself, allowing the arming of criminal scum due to some "infringment" nonsense...................INFRINGMENT, only refers to INFRINGINNG law abiding citizens, in free states.................WE CAN LIVE ITH IT.
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Is this sarcastic schizoposting? or just regular schizoposting? I mean you're entitled to your opinion that "women" are criminal elements and should be subject to practical prohibitions, but it's not a good one.
 
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Zerex said:
There are no natural rights, except to breathe, eat, defecate..........10,000 years of rule by Kings, etc, saw to that reality.

The 2nd was a restriction....prohibiting women, slaves, indians, Tories, French, Spanish, criminals, from gun ownership. The 1781 Articles of Confederation that we formed, had no such restrictions.....................was unworkable.

The NYS Sullivan laws simply ENFORCED THAT original set of prohibitions.

Today, the SCOTUS/State gun restrictions, are practical prohibitions to keep ghost guns, SILENCERS, SBR'S MG'S, from CRIMINAL ELEMENTS............ BLM/Antifa/Illegals, and most women, slaves, indians, etc, due to the NICS background check..............a Constitutional good thing....many have bad records................NOT AN INFRINGEMENT.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact with itself, allowing the arming of criminal scum due to some "infringment" nonsense...................INFRINGMENT, only refers to INFRINGINNG law abiding citizens, in free states.................WE CAN LIVE ITH IT.
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Really don't give a shit what law came after the Constitution was created. It is illegal on its face just reading Sullivan. Show me in the Consitution where background checks reside? No victim, No crime is the way it is suppose to be. Making up a Law for "Prevention" is the fucking problem. Just because someone feels it is good doesn't cut the mustard. Who the fuck are you?? Just like seatbelt laws or helmet laws. All these Laws, code, stautes, rules are absolute bullshit!! Show me the victim! otherwise kiss the fuck off!

Order of Law: God’s Law, aka Natural Law, aka Common Law supersedes ANY & ALL Government Statutory Law.

But of course, many times corrupted US Courts who dont recognize this Law Order, and simply call people Guilty in their Fraudulent Courts … like in Traffic Court which do not classify under Civil or Criminal Courts making them Fraudulent.

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The social contract for the last 10,000 years has been rule by kings.

Only in this Republic after 1791, was legal gun owernship allowed to exist for the first time for common men.................not women, slaves, tories, Spaniards, indians etc.

Women had no rights in any country.................biblical for 10,000 years, until the 19th Amendment.

This natural law bullshit was made up since the Constitution was ratified by the hated "people" who voted to shit can the Articles of Confederation................Whiskey Rebellion..............the sovereign citizens of the day.....


Ask anyone in prison about "natural rights" for crimes they committed.

A just society/Republic, has to have laws/restrictions, under a social contract to arrest criminals/sovereigns.
 
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Zerex said:
There are no natural rights, except to breathe, eat, defecate..........10,000 years of rule by Kings, etc, saw to that reality.

The 2nd was a restriction....prohibiting women, slaves, indians, Tories, French, Spanish, criminals, from gun ownership. The 1781 Articles of Confederation that we formed, had no such restrictions.....................was unworkable.

The NYS Sullivan laws simply ENFORCED THAT original set of prohibitions.

Today, the SCOTUS/State gun restrictions, are practical prohibitions to keep ghost guns, SILENCERS, SBR'S MG'S, from CRIMINAL ELEMENTS............ BLM/Antifa/Illegals, and most women, slaves, indians, etc, due to the NICS background check..............a Constitutional good thing....many have bad records................NOT AN INFRINGEMENT.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact with itself, allowing the arming of criminal scum due to some "infringment" nonsense...................INFRINGMENT, only refers to INFRINGINNG law abiding citizens, in free states.................WE CAN LIVE ITH IT.
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Do you just cut and paste this shit. Seems like a common response from you
 
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Most gun owners, especially those who do not vote, are a pill on our Republic.

Sovereign citizens, just believe that there are no laws, but what they want to do.

At least watch "4 boxes diner".................that lawyer gets it.
 
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