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Alleged Iranian drone struck Azerbaijani airport … this makes no sense to drag in more countries into this war.
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Alleged Iranian drone struck Azerbaijani airport … this makes no sense to drag in more countries into this war.
livingston
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China is Scrambling
The men in Zhongnanhai do not rattle easily. Decades of patient statecraft, a foreign policy built on studied ambiguity, and an economy engineered to absorb external shocks have granted Beijing’s leadership a remarkable tolerance for turbulence. Operation Epic Fury, the American-Israeli air campaign now dismantling Iran’s military architecture, has produced something unusual in the corridors of Chinese power: visible confusion.Third, the energy math turns against Beijing. China bought 1.38 million barrels per day of Iranian oil last year and takes over 80% of everything Iran ships. Half of China’s total oil imports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. With Ayatollah Khamenei now dead and Iran’s military leadership weakened, the Gulf’s strategic balance shifts decisively toward Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, whose energy ties with the United States are strengthening. China’s old selling point was very simple and transactional: we buy your oil and never mention human rights. That pitch loses its utility when Gulf producers already feel protected by an American security guarantee that just proved, on live television, that it works.
A good read for some of you folks. Trump going into Iran militarily has set China back on its heels .
Zerohedge had the same article this morning. Looks like China has a "cheap oil" problem". Good for them.China is Scrambling
The men in Zhongnanhai do not rattle easily. Decades of patient statecraft, a foreign policy built on studied ambiguity, and an economy engineered to absorb external shocks have granted Beijing’s leadership a remarkable tolerance for turbulence. Operation Epic Fury, the American-Israeli air campaign now dismantling Iran’s military architecture, has produced something unusual in the corridors of Chinese power: visible confusion.
Third, the energy math turns against Beijing. China bought 1.38 million barrels per day of Iranian oil last year and takes over 80% of everything Iran ships. Half of China’s total oil imports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. With Ayatollah Khamenei now dead and Iran’s military leadership weakened, the Gulf’s strategic balance shifts decisively toward Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, whose energy ties with the United States are strengthening. China’s old selling point was very simple and transactional: we buy your oil and never mention human rights. That pitch loses its utility when Gulf producers already feel protected by an American security guarantee that just proved, on live television, that it works.
A good read for some of you folks. Trump going into Iran militarily has set China back on its heels .
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It looks like Iran is lashing out at all it's neighbors? Maybe the plan is to set the middle east on fire before they are wiped out? I have to say that Trumps actions in Venezuela may protect us from an oil shock if the middle east does go up in flames.
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Influence of Turkey, Russian and Saudi islamists have been enormous and reached to concerning levels.
Iran is the public enemy number one and there has been a very bad media coverage of the ashura and shias. Image of the non-existent Shia has been significantly damaged. Most people look shias as backwards stupid spies for Iran.
While the sunnis are borderline extremists and radicals in their beliefs.
The current situation is seriously concerning.
Iran shot a ballistic missile at turkey too (that the US chose to shoot down).
If we were trying to make Iran look bad and drag others into this mess on our side it would have been super convenient to NOT intercept it and just let it do its thing.
We could have done nothing and let another ally join against Iran but we didn't.
So why would we false flag attack Azerbaijan to get them into this conflict against Iran?
I can't help but wonder if that wasn't the plan to secure Venezuela before Hormuz got closed.
It actually makes a lot of sense if you are looking at all these events as being connected theaters of a slow burn ww3.
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Aye.
President Trump certainly can react to unexpected events.
But his entire life as a successful businessman has been due to planning and anticipating the long game.
I fully expect that every current player (Panama, Venezuela, Cuba, Mexico, Iran, Turkey) is a pawn in his plans.
Yes, he makes mistakes. His reaction to Covid and the Summer of Love among the big ones. But he is always learning.
Yes, f+ck Iran.
This time America is not fighting a war with one hand bound behind its back.
Azerbaijanies are one of main ethnic groups in Iran, 15-23 million. Turning Azerbaijan against Iran obviously helps U.S. plan.
After collapse of the Soviet Union, U.S. and British spy agencies were heavily involved with Turkey and the Saudis in radicalizing Muslim population of post-Soviet Russia. It failed in Tatarstan, succeeded in Chechnya and almost succeeded in Dagestan. Weapons were smuggled to Dagestan through Georgia. Yeltsin complained about it to Clinton but didn't have the balls to confront him. Many of the Chechen terrorists escaped and ended up in Britain. During the Russia/ Chechen wars, U.S. sided with the Chechen Islamic militants 100%. Before and after 9/11. Bush even issued a warning to Russia to stand down, after the most horrific terrorist attack on a school in Beslan that killed over 300 people, mostly children. WTF?
How much rent do you pay to live in your fantasy world where the US is corrupt to its core but Russia is this pure virgin of a country that has never done any harm but is only a victim?
Once again if it wasn't an absolutely ridiculous notion I would think you are a Russian disinformation agent.
Russians for the most part admit what they done wrong in the past and in reality it is by far less than U.S. This is why the West had to spend billions on propaganda to create false narratives.
Americans are indoctrinated from the childhood that U.S. is a gift to humanity and has a leading role in controlling the world it doesn't even need to understand.
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The Islamofascists got exactly what they've been so richly deserving for decades. I'm just sorry it took this long.
Ok I'll bite. What have they done wrong? Just limit it to post 1917 actions.
Different Russian political factions would point to different policies, while in the U.S. the wrongs are defined by deviation from what Founding Fathers intended and this intent should be aspiration guide for the entire world and all cultures, which is actually a fundamentalist belief.
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I'm not interested in the opinion of different Russian political factions. What do you think the Russians have done wrong?
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US political commentator and journalist Tucker Carlson claimed on Monday that Saudi Arabia and Qatar had apprehended and “arrested Israeli Mossad agents planning bombings in those countries.”
“Why would the Israelis be committing bombings in Gulf countries, which are also being attacked by Iran?” Carlson said on his show.
“Aren’t they on the same side?”
“Israel wants to hurt Iran - and Qatar, and the UAE, and Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain, and Oman and Kuwait,” he added.
Carlson also claimed that Israel intentionally foments instability among the US' Arab allies.
The recent comments come as the US and Israel continue their military strikes on Iran, following a joint operation on Saturday that killed Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and several high-ranking officials. Iran said schools and hospitals have also been targeted, killing hundreds of civilians.
In the opening wave of attacks, about 163 girls were killed when a school in southern Iran was struck.
Tehran responded by targeting Israel, as well as American military assets across the region, disrupting commercial travel, disrupting oil routes, and sending global energy prices higher.
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said it struck more than 500 US and Israeli locations using 700 drones along with hundreds of missiles.
On Monday, a drone strike sparked what was described as a “limited fire” at Saudi Aramco’s oil refinery in Ras Tanura.
Iranian Foreign Ministry said it was not responsible for targeting Saudi Aramco’s oil refinery, and claimed instead that Israel and the US have been carrying out drone attacks from bases in Arab countries.
Tehran accused them of trying to provoke Arab states into attacking Iran and sparking a wider conflict across the Muslim world.
“Why would the Israelis be committing bombings in Gulf countries, which are also being attacked by Iran?” Carlson said on his show.
“Aren’t they on the same side?”
“Israel wants to hurt Iran - and Qatar, and the UAE, and Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain, and Oman and Kuwait,” he added.
Carlson also claimed that Israel intentionally foments instability among the US' Arab allies.
The recent comments come as the US and Israel continue their military strikes on Iran, following a joint operation on Saturday that killed Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and several high-ranking officials. Iran said schools and hospitals have also been targeted, killing hundreds of civilians.
In the opening wave of attacks, about 163 girls were killed when a school in southern Iran was struck.
Tehran responded by targeting Israel, as well as American military assets across the region, disrupting commercial travel, disrupting oil routes, and sending global energy prices higher.
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said it struck more than 500 US and Israeli locations using 700 drones along with hundreds of missiles.
On Monday, a drone strike sparked what was described as a “limited fire” at Saudi Aramco’s oil refinery in Ras Tanura.
Iranian Foreign Ministry said it was not responsible for targeting Saudi Aramco’s oil refinery, and claimed instead that Israel and the US have been carrying out drone attacks from bases in Arab countries.
Tehran accused them of trying to provoke Arab states into attacking Iran and sparking a wider conflict across the Muslim world.
Well there's really only two kinds of Countries over there: those that are for Iran and their stance/rhetoric against the US and Israel and those diametrically opposed to them... You either with us or against us.
The Crusaders were the last Men willing and able to do what needed to be done...those are long gone, with doubtful replacement.
Placed trust in good intentions from the West.
Broke up the entire country when only some of the Soviet Republics were trying to succeed.
Gradual economic reforms should have preceded political reforms.
Collective punishment of the minorities.
Trusting Hitler to abide by non-aggression pact.
Pre-WW2 purges in the Red Army
Collectivisation of agriculture
Giving away Russian territories in expectation of worldwide revolution.
Pulling out of WW1.