Connecticut man dies in police shooting. Treatment was delayed because officer took first ambulance from an anxiety attack

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I thought this was an interesting one to discuss here.
Basics are suspect flees with him in his hand and the officer shoots him in the back while fleeing. Ok, sounds justified enough to me. Smart these days, maybe not, but if it’s a populated area and what his past crimes were in on board.
Ambulance shows up and the first ambulance is taken by an officer(women?) having an anxiety attack. Some say she was hysterical, but then reported to deny treatment in the ambulance.
Man dies later and the second ambulance was about a 10 minute delay. I thought this was interesting and never heard of it happening before so thought it might bring up some interesting conversations.

My take is if it was a mild anxiety attack preference should have been given to the man bleeding out on the ground and a patrol car could have brought her to the hospital. If she was having trouble breathing then I would prioritize her. After all she wasn’t the criminal running away with a gun in her hand.

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Officer having anxiety attack took ambulance sent for man dying from police shooting, report says

A man who was shot by Connecticut police last year and later died had to wait 10 extra minutes for another ambulance to arrive at the scene, after another officer having an anxiety attack took the first one.
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The cop that hopped in the back of the bus for an anxiety attack was not the shooter. Sounds mentally and emotionally unable/unstable to be a cop, but that’s easy to say from reading a poorly written news piece. Declined any treatment, just wanted to leave, and is now on admin leave for an unrelated incident. Yeah, this one stinks. There’s waaaaaaay more going on here than a panic attack and a bad decision by an ambulance crew.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I thought this was an interesting one to discuss here.
Basics are suspect flees with him in his hand and the officer shoots him in the back while fleeing. Ok, sounds justified enough to me. Smart these days, maybe not, but if it’s a populated area and what his past crimes were in on board.
Ambulance shows up and the first ambulance is taken by an officer(women?) having an anxiety attack. Some say she was hysterical, but then reported to deny treatment in the ambulance.
Man dies later and the second ambulance was about a 10 minute delay. I thought this was interesting and never heard of it happening before so thought it might bring up some interesting conversations.

My take is if it was a mild anxiety attack preference should have been given to the man bleeding out on the ground and a patrol car could have brought her to the hospital. If she was having trouble breathing then I would prioritize her. After all she wasn’t the criminal running away with a gun in her hand.

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Officer having anxiety attack took ambulance sent for man dying from police shooting, report says

A man who was shot by Connecticut police last year and later died had to wait 10 extra minutes for another ambulance to arrive at the scene, after another officer having an anxiety attack took the first one.
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I think there is a successful lawsuit to be had there. The rules of medical triage do not concern themselves with who is a good guy and who isn't.

Unless the guy was obviously beyond saving a life threatening condition always takes precedence over something like an anxiety attack doesn't matter who they are.

If the police officers on site misdirected the medical personnel about what was going on, they should be prosecuted.
 
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spat said:
I think there is a successful lawsuit to be had there. The rules of medical triage do not concern themselves with who is a good guy and who isn't.

Unless the guy was obviously beyond saving a life threatening condition always takes precedence over something like an anxiety attack doesn't matter who they are.

If the police officers on site misdirected the medical personnel about what was going on, they should be prosecuted.
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They would need to prove, 100% prove that the guy would have lived if taken to the hospital 10 minutes sooner.
 
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Regardless of the situation, police aren't judge, jury and executioner. The medical people there on the scene are to blame. Should be held accountable. I never believe in the Blue's "us vs them" mentally and Blue wall of silence BS. But here, it is clearly the medical responders on scene that are to blame. That includes any police, fire or ambulance personnel medically trained, that made that decision. :beer:
 
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GOPerfect said:
Bad guy shot while doing bad things.

I care nothing that he is dead.

He had to wait, oh well. Sucks to be him.
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I agree with this sentiment.... but...

it becomes a problem when this is accepted as the norm, and the purported "bad guy" isn't a bad guy at all. Like, say, a lawful concealed carrier doing nothing wrong at all meets a jumpy cop with an itchy trigger finger. As has happened many times.

It's different if we're talking about a cop that was shot and a suspect that was shot. Or even a cop that is having a heart attack vs a suspect that was shot. But a cop that "just wanted to get out of there" and/or was "having a panic attack?" Whole different story.

Also, as Beerman pointed out, there is more to this story, and I'm pretty sure none of it makes the cop look better.
 
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RedBreast21 said:
Regardless of the situation, police aren't judge, jury and executioner. The medical people there on the scene are to blame. Should be held accountable. I never believe in the Blue's "us vs them" mentally and Blue wall of silence BS. But here, it is clearly the medical responders on scene that are to blame. That includes any police, fire or ambulance personnel medically trained, that made that decision. :beer:
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You're assuming the medical personnel knew what was going on.

They might have been directed to the panicked officer by other officers and not even told about the dying man.
 
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