Trump makes statement about suppressors

The funny thing about this...

I. like many, elected Mr. Trump for many reasons. One of the biggest reasons was because in most cases, he says what is on his mind. We did not elect him because he was so pro 2A. Most of us knew where he stood.



And no, suppressors are not covered under the 2A.

GOPerfect said:

And no, suppressors are not covered under the 2A.

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Oh they aren't? So what are? The Brown Bess and Kentucky long rifle, and that's it? Do you think suppressors have no purpose as "arms"?

Please do explain.

Be sure to also explain why if a suppressor isn't "covered" under the 2A, then why would flash hiders, muzzle brakes, grips, sights, etc. be covered, or if those aren't covered either.

This thread will be off the rails by the time it's over.

The only thing worse than the never resting anti gunners is our in fighting and lack of cohesive response and message fighting back against them.

If all Trump did was clean up the corruption and drain the swamp, the rest would take care of itself.
Robin

GOPerfect said:

And no, suppressors are not covered under the 2A.

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I disagree. Suppressed weapons are a class of arms suitable to militia use. It’s no different then banning scopes to ban a class of long range weapons capable of reaching out to distance for militia use.

Scopes, suppressors, and other accessories are integral parts that makes a certain class of arms. Under that logic, you can also ban slings and holsters to prevent carry since they are accessories. You can ban magazines over 1 round too to prevent sustained semi automatic fire for militia use.

Robin said:

If all Trump did was clean up the corruption and drain the swamp, the rest would take care of itself.
Robin

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What's he waiting for, it's been two and a half years?

BDinPutnam said:

What's he waiting for, it's been two and a half years?

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To truly drain the swamp would require actions on a level that really would make Trump into the dictator the left claims he is. The swamp is not passive.

Modean said:

To truly drain the swamp would require actions on a level that really would make Trump into the dictator the left claims he is. The swamp is not passive.

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So other than as a holding action it was pointless to elect him. Got it.

Do us a favor then already- stop calling for it because obviously he's incapable of it.

BDinPutnam said:

So other than as a holding action it was pointless to elect him. Got it.

Do us a favor then already- stop calling for it because obviously he's incapable of it.

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I wouldn’t say pointless at all. The American people have seen a great deal more of the swamp exposed than would ever have happened had Clinton won. And it’s far from over. If you really want the deep state cleaned out it will take a shooting war to do it. These people will not relinquish their power, it will have to be taken from them.

Modean said:

I wouldn’t say pointless at all. The American people have seen a great deal more of the swamp exposed than would ever have happened had Clinton won. And it’s far from over. If you really want the deep state cleaned out it will take a shooting war to do it. These people will not relinquish their power, it will have to be taken from them.

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So why did you vote, then?

BDinPutnam said:

So other than as a holding action it was pointless to elect him. Got it.

Do us a favor then already- stop calling for it because obviously he's incapable of it.

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The demographic shift that has been occurring for the last 50 years (from rural to urban population mostly) guarantees that the collapse is inevitable.

Immigration we can deal with as long as it doesn't exceed a critical rate. We need to be able to "Americanize" the immigrants as fast as they come in (even if it takes a generation or 2 it's the overall rate that matters).

Urbanization on the other hand will lead to increasing socialism and eventual collapse as inevitably as life eventually leads to death.

Trump can slow the process, maybe even temporarily reverse it, but the end result will always be the same.

That doesn't mean electing him was pointless. I still hope that the collapse can be held off past the end of my lifetime. I am not at all confident that will be the case, but I can hope.