The CDC needs to make it clear the unvaccinated are the problem.

The vaccinated can and do spread COVID-19... Fact
The unvaccinated can and do spread COVID-19... Fact

I'm not seeing where the unvaccinated are the problem.

I have noticed that "some" of the pro COVID vaxxers tend to ignore key facts.
It's like they have their very own reality. Kind of weird.

Vaccinated or unvaccinated. China and the bioengineered virus are the problem. The people who funded it are the problem. The people who covered it up are the problem. The people who conspired to lie about it are the problem.

Enough bullshit.

What happened to my body my choice? What happened to 32 genders based on what a person feels. What happened to tolerance? I'll tell you what happened. The "political" left has painted a picture and created the false narrative that Trump-supporting right-wing insurrectionists are anti-vax. Plus, since people arent dying anymore like in 2020, they have to create a reason to expand paper mail-in ballots.

Deplorable Me said:

Vaccinated or unvaccinated. China and the bioengineered virus are the problem. The people who funded it are the problem. The people who covered it up are the problem. The people who conspired to lie about it are the problem.

Enough bullshit.

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You left out the sheeple who allowed and continue to allow this perpetuating the problem.

Bigfoot said:

I have noticed that "some" of the pro COVID vaxxers tend to ignore key facts.
It's like they have their very own reality. Kind of weird.

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They're all brainwashed by facebook and smart phones.

BerettaGuy said:

What happened to my body my choice? What happened to 32 genders based on what a person feels. What happened to tolerance? I'll tell you what happened. The "political" left has painted a picture and created the false narrative that Trump-supporting right-wing insurrectionists are anti-vax. Plus, since people arent dying anymore like in 2020, they have to create a reason to expand paper mail-in ballots.

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"I identify as vaccinated"...

Bigfoot said:

The vaccinated can and do spread COVID-19... Fact
The unvaccinated can and do spread COVID-19... Fact

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But, but, but...

The "vaccine" REDUCES the chance of spreading it. Honest! non-virally-trained peoples on the interwebs said so, so it MUST be true, right?
And it's not about spreading it, it's about reducing the symptoms, even though they are complaining that only the unvaccinated spread it, and oh, I don't know what to do anymore. someone smart has to tell me what to do!


/sarcasm

I woke up today to, what I can only describe, as a disturbing post on Facebook. A post made by a professor myself and @Catskillkid used to know in some capacity.

(I don't post there, I merely lurk at this point at the echo chamber / shitshow which has become the public lives of most people.)



First off, there can absolutely be totalitarian or fascist actions taken that are absolutely "constitutional." It's up to the people to decide when that line is crossed. Something isn't sacred just because it falls within the boundaries of the politicized supreme court. (And quite frankly, the government doesn't have any power not specifically granted to it in the constitution over our lives.)

Furthermore, I find it quite disturbing this professor doesn't see the problem with allowing the government to force a bodily mandate "for the public good" given the medical history of the 1930s and 40s on the Jewish people (his own people afaik) have experienced in Europe. It's not the same, I'll admit that, but the absolute willingness to submit to, and promote, the government power over your individual body is absolutely mind boggling to me coming from a man of @Dr. Evil's tribe.

And last, "earning" freedom from that mean spirited reply? Come on. A virus is really going to suddenly make you "unfree" that you're so willing to let the government dictate what your life can be like? I got the shot like everyone else, but at no point did I feel a prisoner nor would I blame other people because they want to live their life freely. You're not without freedom due to a virus -- you're without freedom because you're willing to hand over control over your life to others.

I've always been a problem child.
Robin

libertysnake said:

And last, "earning" freedom from that mean spirited reply? Come on. A virus is really going to suddenly make you "unfree" that you're so willing to let the government dictate what your life can be like? I got the shot like everyone else, but at no point did I feel a prisoner nor would I blame other people because they want to live their life freely. You're not without freedom due to a virus -- you're without freedom because you're willing to hand over control over your life to others.

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Everyone Else did not receive the shot. Some did, possibly even most, but those numbers are likely as jacked as the covid body count. Unfortunately, we will never know the truth.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

Everyone Else did not receive the shot. Some did, possibly even most, but those numbers are likely as jacked as the covid body count. Unfortunately, we will never know the truth.

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In this context I mean like “many others.” Regardless my point is I don’t care if someone else took the shot or not.

I'm not going to wear a mask again. I'm vaccinated. If i get it and get some mild symptoms I'm not worried. If that means I spread it to some educationally challenged anti-masker and they die, I don't care - they made their choice. I'll give them as much concern as they gave me previously, which is to say none.

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So, what the government either can't or won't do -- because of the limits of their power -- they'll do under the guise of private enterprise. Disturbing.

This really echoes our need to limit the ability of the government to influence private enterprise. It reminds me of when the NYS DOJ tried to pressure banks into not doing business with gun retailers / letting people purchase firearms on the grounds it would increase their liability, if I recall correctly.

libertysnake said:

So, what the government either can't or won't do -- because of the limits of their power -- they'll do under the guise of private enterprise. Disturbing.

This really echoes our need to limit the ability of the government to influence private enterprise. It reminds me of when the NYS DOJ tried to pressure banks into not doing business with gun retailers / letting people purchase firearms on the grounds it would increase their liability, if I recall correctly.

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Basically same shit different day.

So glad Government is protecting my INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS!

libertysnake said:

For me, the line I'm willing to draw in the sand is demonizing people who are unvaxxed. I have no desire to force someone to take the shot. I encourage people to take it, because I've had no problems nor has any of my family, but I don't think we should force anyone to take it.

If the vaccine works, the vaccinated should have no fear about the virus or variants.

If masks work, the unvaxxed can wear them if they don't want the vaccine, but want to protect themselves still.

It's really pretty simple, and the fact they're pushing it so hard disturbs me more than the unvaccinated people do.

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^^^^^
This!!

Of course this "vaccine" doesn't work - you can't vaccinate anyone against a moving target, which any coronavirus is. Their hallmark is mutation.

There has only been 1 (one) successful vaccine ever developed that works for a coronavirus, and that's for a canine gastrointestinal coronavirus, and even that one is neither completely effective nor without its problems.

https://vet.osu.edu/sites/vet.osu.edu/files/documents/preventive-medicine/Canine Enteric Coronavirus Fact Sheet 20201002.pdf

If Big Pharma could make vaccines against the "common cold" (coronaviruses, rhinovirus, RSV, etc.) that worked, and were safe, they would have.

There was no way in hell this vaccine would work for any length of time, even if it was based on more tried and true techniques like an attenuated virus or a killed virus prep.

The mutational frequency of coronaviruses in general made this a pipe dream from the get go, and that's why this comment by @TEOTWAWKI inc. is so chilling - there is an ulterior motive.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

What is the ultimate motive with this? I feel like it is just a giant distraction from something - a long con. Not control over the people, or redistribution of wealth, or to steal an election. There is something much larger, and far more sinister behind it.

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So, I ask, when do the ChiCom troops show up, under UN auspices, to quell the dangerous "unvaxxed" of the fUSA?

Saltwater60 said:

Especially because it’s RNA based. RNA viruses mutate very quickly. They are hushing it but Pfizer has tweaked the vaccine 3 times already for variants. So why aren’t they telling people they need to be revaccinated especially with the Massachusetts outbreak? 74% of those infected were vaccinated and 4/5 hospitalized were vaccinated. The majority were found with the delta variant. This leads me to believe the delta variant blows right through the vaccine.

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They devolped a test for delta? Didn't know that.

why is the new variant called Delta ??

hummmm ..
" Upper-case delta (Δ) often means "change" or "the change in" in mathematics. For example, if the variable "x" stands for the movement of an object, then "Δx" means "the change in movement." Scientists use this mathematical meaning of delta often in physics, chemistry, and engineering, and it appears often in word problems.

Δx .. x=Covid19 "Cases"

Acer-m14 said:

why is the new variant called Delta ??

hummmm ..
" Upper-case delta (Δ) often means "change" or "the change in" in mathematics. For example, if the variable "x" stands for the movement of an object, then "Δx" means "the change in movement." Scientists use this mathematical meaning of delta often in physics, chemistry, and engineering, and it appears often in word problems.

Δx .. x=Covid19 "Cases"

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Or they are just going in alphabetical order
Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta..... I believe the variants are up to Kappa already. Wonder what the plan is when they exceed 24 variants? Maybe go to names like storms?

Cavalry said:

Wonder what the plan is when they exceed 24 variants?

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When they get there, they'll just call it "the flu".

prambo said:

^^^^^
This!!

Of course this "vaccine" doesn't work - you can't vaccinate anyone against a moving target, which any coronavirus is. Their hallmark is mutation.

There has only been 1 (one) successful vaccine ever developed that works for a coronavirus, and that's for a canine gastrointestinal coronavirus, and even that one is neither completely effective nor without its problems.

https://vet.osu.edu/sites/vet.osu.edu/files/documents/preventive-medicine/Canine Enteric Coronavirus Fact Sheet 20201002.pdf

If Big Pharma could make vaccines against the "common cold" (coronaviruses, rhinovirus, RSV, etc.) that worked, and were safe, they would have.

There was no way in hell this vaccine would work for any length of time, even if it was based on more tried and true techniques like an attenuated virus or a killed virus prep.

The mutational frequency of coronaviruses in general made this a pipe dream from the get go, and that's why this comment by @TEOTWAWKI inc. is so chilling - there is an ulterior motive.



So, I ask, when do the ChiCom troops show up, under UN auspices, to quell the dangerous "unvaxxed" of the fUSA?

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I was suggesting aliens.

Cavalry said:

Or they are just going in alphabetical order
Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta..... I believe the variants are up to Kappa already. Wonder what the plan is when they exceed 24 variants? Maybe go to names like storms?

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They are on track to discover and treat the 'Zion' variant soon. They don't plan to circle back to 'A'.