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makes no sense to have a premise permit, you can;t do anything with it. You want home protection, get a shotgun. Otherwise its like owning a Lambo but you can;t drive it you can;t even start it up..So you end up with a gun that you can;t carry, transport or shoot. Does that make any sense to you?

Lets see how the hand plays out. Downstate laws are horrible, luckily up here we don;t have those issues. NY gun laws are based on geographic location . Discrimination thru geographic location..Can get full carry permits here unrestricted and no one bothers you . Not so much the further south or...

makes no difference, in the eye of NY its a pistol cartridge..

your not going to get a NYC permit and if you did you would be too old to shoot at that point. Big changes coming as soon as SCOTUS hears NYSRPA case. Lets just wait and see...Meantime..as the saying goes, do what ya gotta do and keep your mouth shut.

Find cheap ammo, find FFL that will do deal for around $15.00. Get flat rate shipping. Obey the law or you will wish you did. NY has no tolerance for nonsense in this area. They want to disarm everyone. Any violations are just gas on the fire. Still cheaper than you can get here. Buy ammo 1000...