Arent sanctions supposed to hurt the country they are imposed against not the o es imposing them?

[Saltwater60]

I just don’t get the entire we imposed sanctions on Russia and they are great and will stop the war. Oh no wait they won’t, but they will make gas prices increase. Oh no wait not just gas prices, but everything and now we will all face food shortages? So are we supposed to get on Baird with this and support this? I at this the exact opposite of what sanctions are supposed to do? Sanctions are supposed to hurt the country imposing them no the one imposing them? I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but damn what are we doing here.

 

[livingston]

I just do t get the entire we imposed sanctions on Russia and they are great and will stop the war. Oh no wait they won’t, but they will make gas prices increase. Oh no wait not just gas prices, but everything and now we will all face food shortages? So are we supposed to get on Baird with this and support this? I at this the exact opposite of what sanctions are supposed to do? Sanctions are supposed to hurt the country imposing them no the one imposing them? I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but damn what are we doing here.

we get the Biden bonus

 

[GOPerfect]

 

[ManualF150]

With what Xiden has done to our economy, this is the device he used on every single sanction against Russia...

 

[Bigfoot]

Sometimes I just stop caring and go into the "watch the world burn" mode.

But that's even getting expensive.

FUJB

 

[meketrefe]

No more Saigas for you!
(The soup nazi)

 

[Cavalry]

Youtube "survival russia". I dont watch his channel really, but he has been doing walkthroughs of the market and fuel stations for the last couple weeks. In general, there is no difference to prices and the shelves look better stocked than the shithole walmart I go to.

 

[livingston]

 

[MothMan]

Youtube "survival russia". I dont watch his channel really, but he has been doing walkthroughs of the market and fuel stations for the last couple weeks. In general, there is no difference to prices and the shelves look better stocked than the shithole walmart I go to.

I watch Lars on Survival Russia all the time. For what I have seen on his videos from the boonies of Russia is that the foods shelves have lots of product and fuel prices haven't changed in 3 weeks. The sanctions haven't reached the average Russian yet but have reached the average American already.

 

[Modean]

We know who the sanctions are really supposed to hurt.

 

[spat]

I just don’t get the entire we imposed sanctions on Russia and they are great and will stop the war. Oh no wait they won’t, but they will make gas prices increase. Oh no wait not just gas prices, but everything and now we will all face food shortages? So are we supposed to get on Baird with this and support this? I at this the exact opposite of what sanctions are supposed to do? Sanctions are supposed to hurt the country imposing them no the one imposing them? I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but damn what are we doing here.

Sanctions are supposed to hurt your enemies.

Look who they are hurting and you will see who the people imposing them consider their enemies.


Yep, that's right, it's the US working class.

 

[Blimey]

Sanctions hurt all sides. The goal is to make the other side hurt more. They are economic war and, like war, both sides will suffer.

 

[Blimey]

Youtube "survival russia". I dont watch his channel really, but he has been doing walkthroughs of the market and fuel stations for the last couple weeks. In general, there is no difference to prices and the shelves look better stocked than the shithole walmart I go to.

This is not even plausible. Russia is severely suffering for the sanctions already. I've seen multiple videos of people in different stores fighting over just sugar. I've seen multiple videos of stores shut. Many major brands are not even doing business with them now. The private industry's voluntarily sanctions (albeit urged by the twitter brigade) are profoundly impactful.

 

[Cavalry]

This is not even plausible. Russia is severely suffering for the sanctions already. I've seen multiple videos of people in different stores fighting over just sugar. I've seen multiple videos of stores shut. Many major brands are not even doing business with them now. The private industry's voluntarily sanctions (albeit urged by the twitter brigade) are profoundly impactful.

No clue. Homeslice has put up 3 or 4 videos since the sanctions, including one yesterday. He walks the store, shows shelf price tags and points out things that have changed in price or hard to get. Hes in a rural location, not a city so maybe thats the difference.

 

[Saltwater60]

Sanctions hurt all sides. The goal is to make the other side hurt more. They are economic war and, like war, both sides will suffer.

I get paying more for gas, but the other ones are going too far. The natural gas sale to the EU will be a disaster and will encourage them to force you to electric everything, the fertilize shortages will be disastrous for the USA. If the food shortages they are talking about actually happen that will be a worse disaster and people will revolt. We are too comfortable here so unless Biden has been stashing food to release to us as an olive branch he’s toast in November if food is short. He will lose half of the 30-40% support he has. If inflation doesn’t turn around things will not go well for them.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is not even plausible. Russia is severely suffering for the sanctions already. I've seen multiple videos of people in different stores fighting over just sugar. I've seen multiple videos of stores shut. Many major brands are not even doing business with them now. The private industry's voluntarily sanctions (albeit urged by the twitter brigade) are profoundly impactful.

Yeah I actually have an issue with this because the sanctions are not hurting those that it’s meant to hurt. Putin has all the money he will ever need to centuries. We are hurting the innocent civilians that have nothing to do with this and so not want this. I truly do feel bad for the Russian citizens since they have been oppressed for so many years.

 

[livingston]

This is not even plausible. Russia is severely suffering for the sanctions already. I've seen multiple videos of people in different stores fighting over just sugar. I've seen multiple videos of stores shut. Many major brands are not even doing business with them now. The private industry's voluntarily sanctions (albeit urged by the twitter brigade) are profoundly impactful.

During the past five years, beet sugar production in the Russian Federation exceeded consumption. During the 2019/20 agricultural year, approximately 7.3 million tons of beet sugar were produced in Russia, while domestic market demand amounted to 6 million tons. Despite the lower output in the 2020/21 season, the country’s low sugar consumption resulted in a sugar stockpile from 5 years of over-supply. According to Russia’s Sugar Producers’ Union, the sugar stockpile has reached approximately 3.1 million tonnes. It has led to Russia becoming the leading exporter of beet sugar globally, exporting a value of USD 67.53 million in 2020.

Sugar Beet Production Remains Sweet in Russia

According to the estimates of the Federal Center for Agroanalytics, sugar beet production continues to rise in Russia, increasing by 14% over the past five years. On average, approximately 46.7 million tons were harvested annually in the Russian Federation, compared to an estimated average...

www.tridge.com

According to the Russian Ministry of Agriculture, due to favorable weather conditions, the larger sugar beet planting area will help the country harvest 40 million tonnes of sugar beets and produce approximately 6 million tonnes of white sugar from it in 2021.Apr 7, 2021

Must have been fighting over something besides sugar.....

 

[Blimey]

Yeah I actually have an issue with this because the sanctions are not hurting those that it’s meant to hurt. Putin has all the money he will ever need to centuries. We are hurting the innocent civilians that have nothing to do with this and so not want this. I truly do feel bad for the Russian citizens since they have been oppressed for so many years.

Putin has all the money he needs but if the russian people are poor[er] they are more likely to revolt.

Beyond that Russia is literally losing its ability to do this again. The sanctions are destroying imports, many of which they need for everything.

Think of all the things in your house made in Russia. Can you even think of one? Vodka? I'm not even joking. I can't think of one damn thing. I have things from china, usa, vietnam--even egypt. Russia? They are a pathetic country. They have no industry. Without imports they cannot build weapons, they cannot even run their factories. This is immensely destructive. As they blow through their shitty old military equipment they will not be able to replace it very quickly.

I saw a twitter feed covering some tractor factory. Putin wanted domestic tractor production. So a company had the bright idea to buy tractor kits from the czech republic, build the tractors in russia, and claim them as russian made tractors. They are a joke of a country. I always knew they were, but now everyone else can see as well.

 

[livingston]

Putin has all the money he needs but if the russian people are poor[er] they are more likely to revolt.

Beyond that Russia is literally losing its ability to do this again. The sanctions are destroying imports, many of which they need for everything.

Think of all the things in your house made in Russia. Can you even think of one? Vodka? I'm not even joking. I can't think of one damn thing. I have things from china, usa, vietnam--even egypt. Russia? They are a pathetic country. They have no industry. Without imports they cannot build weapons, they cannot even run their factories. This is immensely destructive. As they blow through their shitty old military equipment they will not be able to replace it very quickly.

I saw a twitter feed covering some tractor factory. Putin wanted domestic tractor production. So a company had the bright idea to buy tractor kits from the czech republic, build the tractors in russia, and claim them as russian made tractors. They are a joke of a country. I always knew they were, but now everyone else can see as well.

It seems China is supplying the world .. They will continue to purchase gas, oil and coal from Russia.. In turn Russia will continue to buy from China much needed goods. (even if bartering someday will need to be done )One could see China supplying Russia with military hardware. and parts.

 

[Saltwater60]

Putin has all the money he needs but if the russian people are poor[er] they are more likely to revolt.

Beyond that Russia is literally losing its ability to do this again. The sanctions are destroying imports, many of which they need for everything.

Think of all the things in your house made in Russia. Can you even think of one? Vodka? I'm not even joking. I can't think of one damn thing. I have things from china, usa, vietnam--even egypt. Russia? They are a pathetic country. They have no industry. Without imports they cannot build weapons, they cannot even run their factories. This is immensely destructive. As they blow through their shitty old military equipment they will not be able to replace it very quickly.

I saw a twitter feed covering some tractor factory. Putin wanted domestic tractor production. So a company had the bright idea to buy tractor kits from the czech republic, build the tractors in russia, and claim them as russian made tractors. They are a joke of a country. I always knew they were, but now everyone else can see as well.

Not being a jerk here, but now apply the same thinking to the USA? So we’re a joke too because without China, Japan, Korea, India, Indonesia were nothing and very little is made from the ground up here with all USA made parts.

 

[Saltwater60]

It seems China is supplying the world .. They will continue to purchase gas, oil and coal from Russia.. In turn Russia will continue to buy from China much needed goods. (even if bartering someday will need to be done )One could see China supplying Russia with military hardware. and parts.

You’re correct!! I’m sure this is already happening. If China can make a buck they will. What will we do about it if China gives Russia weapons? I’m not sure China will give them much because their money is worth nothing, but yes bartering is a possibility.
The USA will do nothing if they supply them with weapons. What would we do sanctions? China will sanction is right back and buy all the computer chips in the world or stop supplying us with rare earth magnets. If they stop giving us rare earth magnets we make no electronics then and we’re fucked. This is a mess and is designed to test our cock swinging ability and we’re impotent right now.