BIDEN GUN RULE TO BAN PRIVATE SALES

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Whistleblowers alleged that a regulation is under development that would effectively ban private gun sales.

The group, Empower Oversight, said Wednesday that two sources have claimed that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is preparing to propose a rule requiring background checks for most or all gun sales.

Biden gun rule being drafted to effectively ban private sales: ATF whistleblowers

Watchdog claims background check requirement in works for most or all gun transactions.

nypost.com

 

[C3D]

Sure to be overturned in court under the "major questions" doctrine, so bring it.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[That_FNG]

It’s ok no need to worry …..

jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte

 

[meketrefe]

Code red. Code red....
Chief has a loaded diaper .... Again.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

It’s ok no need to worry …..

jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[spat]

It’s ok no need to worry …..

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In the free state they will refuse to enforce anything like that.

It can only be enforced with a central registry. Otherwise there is no way to prove an exchange even happened unless you catch them in the act.

We have seen what the compliance rates for registries in occupied states? What do you think the compliance rate for a gun registry in Texas would be LOL.

 

[Celt]

In the free state they will refuse to enforce anything like that.

It can only be enforced with a central registry. Otherwise there is no way to prove an exchange even happened unless you catch them in the act.

We have seen what the compliance rates for registries in occupied states? What do you think the compliance rate for a gun registry in Texas would be LOL.

Although we do know that the fed keeps records of all gun sales through 4473 forms.

 

[spat]

Although we do know that the fed keeps records of all gun sales through 4473 forms.

All original gun sales.

I expect less than half of the guns in the US are probably traceable to the current owner via 4473.

 

[kev74]

 

[thughes]

Bottom line: Private sales are by their very definition "private"....government can't do fuck-all to prevent them. It's time to stop worrying about this shit and simply live as a free people.

 

[Acer-m14]

Mail Order ..






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[Uninformed and Compliant]

The ban, Federal taxation, regulation, or hindrance on selling guns across state lines has no historical precedent.

End of story.

 

[spat]

The ban, Federal taxation, regulation, or hindrance on selling guns across state lines has no historical precedent.

End of story.

If churches are tax exempt because of the 1A, then gun and ammo sales and manufacturing should also be tax exempt because of the 2A.

Also, since all federal gun regulations are based on being a tax....

 

[Grimscale]

"Rule change" does not = Law and is therefore invalid.
Law that contradicts the Constitution is likewise invalid.
End of story.

<insert obligatory FUKH and FUJB here>

 

[Cooolone]

We do not (yet) live in an Oligarchy!!! No matter how much these progressives try to eliminate the Republic!

They may succeed in their little enclaves, like here in NY, but on the larger stage, not a chance.

 

[subsonic]

It’s ok no need to worry …..

jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte

Yeah that boomer "just move to a free state" bullshit is so played out in 2024.. This happened in MONTANA and MAGA darling Gianforte is cool with it:

Montana governor defends removal of 14-year-old from parents who opposed gender identity

Montana Gov. Greg Gianforte said state officials acted legally when assuming custody of the child.

nbcmontana.com

Dad had full custody of his daughter, lost all custody, and the state removed her first to Wyoming against his will (doing an end-run around Montana's law via that notorious "free state" Wyoming) and then sent her out of the country to Canada to live with her absentee mother to receive testosterone and get her breasts removed. Because the woke doctors at the hospital decided to "affirm" her as a boy rather than address with her obvious mental health issues and the father's Christian beliefs were not on board with this.

Then there's this in that "free state" of Iowa:

Man who destroyed Satanic Temple altar in Iowa charged under hate crime law

The Baphomet altar put up by the Satanic Temple was allowed to be in the Iowa Capitol, but it drew criticism from national conservatives.

www.nbcnews.com

Not content with erecting a literal altar to Satan in the Iowa State Capitol rotunda, they charged a man with a felony hate crime for vandalizing it. Hating Satan is a crime, in Iowa.

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[Uninformed and Compliant]

Dad had full custody of his daughter, lost all custody, and the state removed her first to Wyoming against his will (doing an end-run around Montana's law via that notorious "free state" Wyoming) and then sent her out of the country to Canada to live with her absentee mother to receive testosterone and get her breasts removed. Because the woke doctors at the hospital decided to "affirm" her as a boy rather than address with her obvious mental health issues and the father's Christian beliefs were not on board with this.

Guess we can check this one off from the list​

"He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: "

And this, while we're at it​

"For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

 

[Grimscale]

Not content with erecting a literal altar to Satan in the Iowa State Capitol rotunda, they charged a man with a felony hate crime for vandalizing it. Hating Satan is a crime, in Iowa.

So you're ok with anyone destroying the property of any other religion, including Christianity, if they "hate" it?

Or do you actually believe the text of the 1st Amendment?

 

[That_FNG]

Yeah that boomer "just move to a free state" bullshit is so played out in 2024.. This happened in MONTANA and MAGA darling Gianforte is cool with it:

Montana governor defends removal of 14-year-old from parents who opposed gender identity

Montana Gov. Greg Gianforte said state officials acted legally when assuming custody of the child.

nbcmontana.com

Dad had full custody of his daughter, lost all custody, and the state removed her first to Wyoming against his will (doing an end-run around Montana's law via that notorious "free state" Wyoming) and then sent her out of the country to Canada to live with her absentee mother to receive testosterone and get her breasts removed. Because the woke doctors at the hospital decided to "affirm" her as a boy rather than address with her obvious mental health issues and the father's Christian beliefs were not on board with this.

Then there's this in that "free state" of Iowa:

Man who destroyed Satanic Temple altar in Iowa charged under hate crime law

The Baphomet altar put up by the Satanic Temple was allowed to be in the Iowa Capitol, but it drew criticism from national conservatives.

www.nbcnews.com

Not content with erecting a literal altar to Satan in the Iowa State Capitol rotunda, they charged a man with a felony hate crime for vandalizing it. Hating Satan is a crime, in Iowa.

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Exactly this. That is why every time some bullshit comes up that affects those in free states I just throw that right back at them. That way it can be the same helpful advice that us in nys have recieved.

 

[holdover]

They tried that with private drug sales, didnt work so well. and of course Americans can always turn to our open boarder and southern cartel friends

Just makes them even richer, opening up new markets where none existed.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

It’s ok no need to worry …..

jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte

That’s not hochul’s doing, that’s bidoon and the feds so moving to another state don’t do anything except costs and new neighbors

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Private transfer of firearms is almost a religious practice here, and completely in line with my religion, which I call Freedomism.

Pretty sure a lot of people wouldn't even know if private sales became illegal federally, and most of those that did wouldn't comply.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Although we do know that the fed keeps records of all gun sales through 4473 forms.

Here and in other states, if you have a CCW they only run a state check to make sure your CCW is valid. Then you walk out the door with your long gun or pistol. Yes you still fill out a damn 4473, but it stays with the FFL. They don't do a nics on you. So the feds would have to show up and physically confiscate all records from every dealer in the state.

 

[Acer-m14]

Yeah that boomer "just move to a free state" bullshit is so played out in 2024.. This happened in MONTANA and MAGA darling Gianforte is cool with it:

Montana governor defends removal of 14-year-old from parents who opposed gender identity

Montana Gov. Greg Gianforte said state officials acted legally when assuming custody of the child.

nbcmontana.com

Dad had full custody of his daughter, lost all custody, and the state removed her first to Wyoming against his will (doing an end-run around Montana's law via that notorious "free state" Wyoming) and then sent her out of the country to Canada to live with her absentee mother to receive testosterone and get her breasts removed. Because the woke doctors at the hospital decided to "affirm" her as a boy rather than address with her obvious mental health issues and the father's Christian beliefs were not on board with this.

Then there's this in that "free state" of Iowa:

Man who destroyed Satanic Temple altar in Iowa charged under hate crime law

The Baphomet altar put up by the Satanic Temple was allowed to be in the Iowa Capitol, but it drew criticism from national conservatives.

www.nbcnews.com

Not content with erecting a literal altar to Satan in the Iowa State Capitol rotunda, they charged a man with a felony hate crime for vandalizing it. Hating Satan is a crime, in Iowa.

jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte
jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte
jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte
jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte
jUsT mOvE tO a FrEe StAte

So you're ok with anyone destroying the property of any other religion, including Christianity, if they "hate" it?

Or do you actually believe the text of the 1st Amendment?

I hate a lot of shit .. so all my Hate is a crime ..

Burnt Toast .. .. order over easy eggs and they are over hard ..

i hate cooks that can't cook a egg ..



Hate laws are a fucking Joke ..

Hell the gov of NYS ...

HATES US ..

WE ARE NOT WELCOME HEAR ..

I Think FUAC Said it Too . .

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Exactly this. That is why every time some bullshit comes up that affects those in free states I just throw that right back at them. That way it can be the same helpful advice that us in nys have recieved.

That's fucking laughable. You and @subsonic want to go toe to toe comparing the policies of a free state vs NY? Do you really want to go down that road? NY will lose EVERY FUCKING TIME. Keep trolling dick head. You never once offer anything useful to the discussion of federal gun control. All you have is to try and mock people who live in or move to other states that have way better views and laws on gun ownership. You don't fucking get it. You think every state thinks like NY and that they will all just fall in line when the fed decides to pass an unconstitutional law. As an example, why don't you look at what Texas is doing with its border and what the 25 other FREE states are doing in support. YOUR state sure as shit isn't one of those 25 and isn't standing up in support of the American people. In fact here is a sample of what is happening in your state:
America Last: NYC Launches $53 Million Pilot Program to Provide Pre-Paid Credit Cards to Illegal Aliens — Family of Four Will Receive $1,000 Per Month | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Stay the fuck in NY. Just StAy aNd FiGht.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Yeah that boomer "just move to a free state" bullshit is so played out in 2024..

You clearly do not know what/who a "boomer" is. Just like @That_FNG you show your ignorance. As I said in an earlier post. You want to cherry pick some policy decisions to try and make free states look bad? Compare free state policies with NY state policies and you will lose. But please, stay in NY because clearly life is better there and millenials like you enjoy the warm feeling of needing permission from the state to own things and live your life.
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[spat]

So you're ok with anyone destroying the property of any other religion, including Christianity, if they "hate" it?

Or do you actually believe the text of the 1st Amendment?

To be fair, hate crimes in general are bullshit.

Vandalism is a crime. It's not a *worse* crime just because you dislike the owner of the stuff you vandalized.

Why on earth should it be considered a more heinous crime if you hate him for these 5 or 6 specific reasons, but not any other ones ?

Key some guys car because you hate the team he cheers for, misdemeanor. Unless that team is a religion, then it's a felony ?

 

[Acer-m14]

the opposite of hate is love .. so if i love to hate

then love should be a crime too ..