Excellent Buffalo news article ripping Hochul.

[Jem45472]

Rod Watson. A guy that I've pretty much never agreed with a word he said. Pretty shocking article, especially considering it's coming from him. Way to go!

Instead of stopping crime, NY is creating more criminals

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Report: Concealed Carry Permit Holders Are The Most Law-Abiding People In The Country​

By Aaron Bandler
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Aug 10, 2016 DailyWire.com



Report: Concealed Carry Permit Holders Are The Most Law-Abiding People In The Country | The Daily Wire

Well, since Cunty Whorecul isn't going to bother looking at any kind of data I guess this type of information is pointless?

 

[ManualF150]

Even Dan Sullivan from Oneida said the same thing the other day: “Pistol license holders are the most law-abiding segment of society, bar none. ..."

Explainer: Oneida County Pistol Licensing Office breaks down SCOTUS ruling

The U.S. Supreme Court today struck down a New York law that placed limits on carrying guns outside the home, saying it was at odds with the second amendment.

www.wktv.com

So Ms. Hochul, if we the "good people" are so law-abiding, why are you treating US like criminals?!

 

[Depick]

Good article! It calls out her BS for what it is. Politically motivated retribution. I hope with every fiber of my being that this comes back to haunt her.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Rod Watson. A guy that I've pretty much never agreed with a word he said. Pretty shocking article, especially considering it's coming from him. Way to go!

Instead of stopping crime, NY is creating more criminals

Could you cut and paste? I'm unable to open without subscription. Used up my freebies.

 

[ManualF150]

The crime rate in New York State is about to spike dramatically.

It won’t necessarily be because there are more murders, rapes and felonious assaults – though that may well be the result of, in effect, disarming responsible pistol permit holders.

Rather, it will be because Gov. Kathy Hochul and her Democratic henchmen just made criminals out of those otherwise law-abiding gun owners.

As Prohibition proved, people don’t obey stupid laws and the Democratic cabal’s latest effort to punish legal gun owners instead of criminals will be no exception. That’s assuming some judge with common sense – the gun banners’ favorite phrase – doesn’t block it before most provisions take effect Sept. 1.

There’s certainly ample grounds for that, given what U.S. Supreme Court justices said last month when striking down New York’s arbitrary process for deciding who gets to protect themselves by carrying a concealed weapon and who is left to the mercy of street thugs.

When nixing the state law requiring citizens to demonstrate “proper cause” to some bureaucrat before being granted a concealed carry permit, the justices nevertheless said some restrictions could be placed on carrying guns in “sensitive places” like schools and government buildings. But they also clearly warned that the phrase could not be stretched beyond all reason to try to impose blanket bans.

Yet that’s just what Hochul & Co. did with a law that would prohibit guns everywhere from parks, playgrounds, churches and public transit to sports and entertainment venues. In other words, pretty much everywhere.

Beyond that, the provision banning permit holders from carrying their concealed weapons in businesses unless the entrepreneur “opts in” by posting a sign allowing it turns what the Supreme Court deemed a constitutional right on its head. Given the controversy guns generate, few businesses owners will want to alienate potential customers by posting such a sign. Others who don’t feel strongly one way or the other will just shrug it off as an unnecessary hassle compared to everything else they have to contend with to turn a profit.

Taken together, the two provisions will make a concealed carry permit virtually worthless in New York. Permit holders might as well just use it for target practice.

But even if you don’t care about that, you should care about what it will cost you. As a taxpayer, get ready to dig into your pocket to try to defend the indefensible as this law inevitably lands the state right back in court, where it most assuredly will lose again.

And the purpose of the law? There is none – except politics – because people who jump through all of the hoops New York requires to get a pistol permit are not the ones committing crimes. If they were, you can bet the state would be trumpeting the data to prove it.

But when I asked the governor’s office for numbers on how many permit holders commit crimes, or just what problem this law is responding to, I got no response. That should not surprise. Hochul herself, when asked a similar question in a press conference, replied “I don’t need to have numbers.”

In other words, the New York governor needs no justification for neutering a constitutional right and turning citizens into felons. A politician with that mindset should scare everyone. Just because it’s on the left this time doesn’t make it any more acceptable than when it’s on the right.

Yet there are some numbers out there, though admittedly not as many as there should be, in part because the gun industry pushed Congress to block federal research for so long. When PolitiFact in 2018 looked at the claim that the vast majority of gun crime is committed by those getting their guns illegally – not by legal permit holders – it rated the claim as accurate and “mostly true,” with a caveat that gun crime is not well researched in the United States.

Nevertheless, it cited a University of Chicago study that found only 3% of inmates in the Cook County Jail who used a gun got their weapon at a gun store, as well as a University of Pittsburgh study that found 80% of the guns found at crime scenes were not obtained legally.

Similarly, writing on realclearpolitics.com last week, gun-rights researcher John Lott Jr. noted that in Florida and Texas, permit holders are convicted of firearms-related violations at 1/12 the rate of police officers. Even more telling: He said that in the 19 states that keep comprehensive data, the average revocation rate of pistol permits is one-tenth of 1%.

No wonder Hochul does not want to see the stats. This law is not data-driven; it’s poll tested and politics-driven.

Against that backdrop, the new law reminds me of an argument I once had with a relative who prefaced every comment with “I don’t know anything about guns, but …” She then went on to voice strongly held views based on gun banners’ talking point she had heard in the media.

If you know little about guns, it is easy to fall prey to that, and that’s what politicians like Hochul count on to make it past the next election.

Meanwhile, their noses grow every time they say – as President Biden did last week in calling for more gun control measures – that “this isn’t about taking away anyone’s rights.” That’s exactly what New York is doing, essentially taking away the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens who’ve gone through extensive training and background checks.

Of course, poetic justice – not to mention actual justice – would be if this political ploy backfires.

According to a Pew Research Center survey last year, 20% of Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents own guns. That’s less than half the rate of Republicans and GOP-leaners, but still a substantial number.

Typically, there’s a philosophical thread running through someone’s political leaning such that no one issue would be enough to cause a voter to suddenly switch party allegiance. But the right to self-defense, especially amid rising crime, is such a fundamental one that it would not be surprising if some Democrats consider this new law so extreme as to prompt them to take a look at the Republican candidates for governor and Legislature.

In the meantime, a lot of permit holders will live by the old maxim that it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by six. That means there will be a lot of new “criminals” walking around soon, thanks to Hochul and the Democratic legislators who find it easier to create new law-breakers than to go after the existing ones.

 

[ManualF150]

Same

I copied and pasted it above.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Thanks

 

[Jem45472]

Rod Watson usually has his nose so high up the democrat's asses, I'm really glad to see some common sense come from him. Maybe the country's not quite lost just yet.

 

[99cummins]

There might be hope yet if that liberal rag newspaper and Rod Watson say you went too far on gun laws. As much as it pains me to say it, that was a well written and thought out article citing facts and statistics while steering clear of emotions. Well done Rod Watson and the buffalo news on this one. This is what news reporting is supposed to be.

 

[Cooolone]

Same as before... ie, Safe Act...

Non-Compliance renders it moot!!!

LE isn't going to go around checking all the Registered CCW's or Surveiling them...

It will be challenged by before Sept 1, and any Judge worth their salt will provide relief as it is way too broad in scope!
Amazingly so...

But in the mean time!

Fuck You NY!!!
Lol

 

[BuffNiag]

Don't get too excited about TBN. The editorial from the day before was fawning all over horse face.

The Editorial Board: Albany acts swiftly and appropriately after court’s bad ruling on carrying guns

Even after Monday’s mass shooting near Chicago forced Americans once again to consider the high cost of gun lust, some will insist that New York’s legislative response to last month’s

buffalonews.com

 

[Jem45472]

Don't get too excited about TBN. The editorial from the day before was fawning all over horse face.

The Editorial Board: Albany acts swiftly and appropriately after court’s bad ruling on carrying guns

Even after Monday’s mass shooting near Chicago forced Americans once again to consider the high cost of gun lust, some will insist that New York’s legislative response to last month’s

buffalonews.com

Exactly why I was surprised to see this one. It's a nice change.

 

[BuffNiag]

Exactly why I was surprised to see this one. It's a nice change.

He's actually been writing this stuff for years.

Time to take New York’s 'common sense' gun control quiz

With the state’s finest thinkers back in Albany for the start of another legislative session – and Democrats controlling all three centers of power – it’s a safe bet that

buffalonews.com

Rod Watson: Proposed gun bill threatens more than 2nd Amendment

“Specific evidence should be necessary before subjecting any American to a fishing expedition by government agents to determine what they are reading online or what they are saying to whom,”

buffalonews.com

Rod Watson: Bill to ban high school rifle teams just makes NRA’s case

Assembly bill “is one more example of Democrats stretching the definition of ‘sensible’ gun control until it has no meaning at all, short of simply getting rid of all firearms,”

buffalonews.com

Rod Watson: I stand with Collins on SAFE Act 'abomination'

Columnist says the SAFE Act was “designed more for PR than anything else” because Gov. Andrew Cuomo “wanted bragging rights for having the nation’s toughest gun control

buffalonews.com

But, based on everything else he writes, which is pretty much all race-bating, I wouldn't trust anything he says.

 

[Zerex]

The 2nd Amendment not only terrifies the common criminal home invader, but also the communists who cannot just willy nilly go into your home, not because of the 4th and 5th Amendments, but because of fear of the 2nd........................it is like fearing the Veloci-raptor who may be just inside the door.

Be the Raptor.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Rod Watson usually has his nose so high up the democrat's asses, I'm really glad to see some common sense come from him. Maybe the country's not quite lost just yet.

No the country is still lost.

I disagree with 90% of rod Watson but he's one of the better buffalo news writers. Even though I disagree with most of what he says he usually tries to make a case for his opinions. He's one of the few remaining journalists that haven't totally lost their minds and still will be true to themselves.


Good and fair article, thanks Rod.

 

[Saltwater60]

Even Dan Sullivan from Oneida said the same thing the other day: “Pistol license holders are the most law-abiding segment of society, bar none. ..."

Explainer: Oneida County Pistol Licensing Office breaks down SCOTUS ruling

The U.S. Supreme Court today struck down a New York law that placed limits on carrying guns outside the home, saying it was at odds with the second amendment.

www.wktv.com

So Ms. Hochul, if we the "good people" are so law-abiding, why are you treating US like criminals?!

He also said it will be impossible to do what was passed since they don’t have the staff. They don’t have people to look through social media accounts and they don’t have the staff to meet with applicants one on one.

 

[Steal2B]

I hope with every fiber of my being that this comes back to haunt her.

My hopes are a bit more brutal and anal.