F*CK TED TALK

[DoD1776]

I’ve always disliked them. Apparently pedophilia is okay guys!!

 

[Catskillkid]

This chick was just weird, didn't really seem to know what she was talking about, and just a generally poor speaker (it was also heavily edited so we're not seeing her whole argument). For the record, I believe pedophilia is a serious mental disorder that needs to be strictly monitored and treated and anyone who abuses a child in that manner should be taken to the gallows after a long and painful ordeal.

TED Talks are on all sorts of topics and the speakers views are their own. I don't watch them all by any means but many are interesting and I've been educated by them. Perhaps this is a poor analogy given the topic but I wouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

 

[holdover]

You have to be really educated to be that stupid.

 

[Blimey]

We can probably agree that having these interests is uncontrollable. The assertion she's making is that being more open about them makes it easier to avoid acting on them. The commentator's assertion is that stigmatizing it is helpful because via that shame people with these interests will have, they are less likely to act on them.

I am not sure there is evidence for what she's saying. If there is, there is merit to it. But, short of true evidence for it, I think stigmatizing has value. Normalizing something as "uncontrollable", like you can't help it, increases acceptance and tolerance.

In our screwed up society, if we take her view to the logical conclusion, we could end up with support groups on facebook, etc. where people join because they have these feelings and talk about them regularly and then challenges up to scotus to include pedophilia as a protected status. Not the acting on it, as she points out, but it's all pretty creepy. Do we really need to talk about everything? Is shame not of value as well? We need more of it, not less.

 

[holdover]

What she was saying in the beginning was that there is a clear difference between Pedophilia and child abuse. There is no difference, the act itself is the abuse. It doesn't matter how well the kid was treated.
If you beat the kid , its a crime , but if you talk him into it , its perfectly OK . Yeah, not buying what they're selling.

 

[Robin]

Seriously, when they made all the other perversions acceptable, you didn't think this sick shit would be next? Really?
Robin

 

[Darth]

Seriously, when they made all the other perversions acceptable, you didn't think this sick shit would be next? Really?
Robin

What "perversions" were "made acceptable", and who made them so?

 

[Robin]

Yes, I was waiting for that one. Figure it out for yourself.
Robin

 

[FrankenCub]

There's a lot of good videos on Ted Talks, this isn't one of them based on what I'm reading here. I wont watch it because the topic disgusts me and I don't believe there is any reason to tolerate it what so ever.

 

[Darth]

Yes, I was waiting for that one. Figure it out for yourself.
Robin

Excellent non answer.

 

[Robin]

Well, I figured it was a rhetorical question from a nihilist, or a some what question from someone being willfully ignorant, besides dinner is ready.
Robin

 

[Darth]

Nah, you just can't name any "perversions" that were made acceptable. Or even define who or what makes them acceptable or not.

"But it's icky to me" is all you'd have to go on, and that's really a non starter.

 

[Robin]

Pfft.
Robin

 

[Acer-m14]

you just getting the crap from Ted @Dayten .. they have some really good stuff ..

I think the last one i watched was a guy talking about about a ship wreak .. lots of silver bars .. then ohhhh some are mixed with gold too ..
then he tosses in the twist .. copper mining .. and i think phosphate .. on the copper .. how much enviro has been destroyed to make windmills / electric cars

brb .. to find that vid ..


they even have vids on life in N. Korea .. even going back in after escaping from there .. ..

 

[Acer-m14]

even with the OP post on the topic .. at least ted talk is open for discussion from all topics .. whether you like or not and hasn't been shut down

 

[Grimscale]

What she was saying in the beginning was that there is a clear difference between Pedophilia and child abuse. There is no difference, the act itself is the abuse.

Pedophilia isn't the act. It is a term that defines someone having sexual feelings toward children. It is an aberration, similar to homosexuality or bestiality, or the desire to have sex with construction equipment (yes, it's a thing).
Child abuse is the actual act.

By conflating the two you risk having those with unwanted sexual desires avoid getting the help they would need to function in society.

Nah, you just can't name any "perversions" that were made acceptable. Or even define who or what makes them acceptable or not.

To start with, you both should stop using the emotionally charged term "perversion". That generates an automatic negative declaration of whatever you are speaking about.
Sexual deviations, or aberrations, occur naturally. This has been deeply studied for many years. They tend to become more pronounced in high population instances.
Homosexuality and gender "re-identification" (ie: sex change) have become 'acceptable' only in that they are decisions made by consenting adults. They are not acceptable to all, as shown even among the discussion here, but it comes down to the people involved are allowed to make their own choices and you have no say in it.
This acceptability does not apply to the other behaviors. Children, animals, machines, these cannot legally give consent, so there is no way to "talk them into it" without it still being abuse.

 

[Darth]

To start with, you both should stop using the emotionally charged term "perversion". That generates an automatic negative declaration of whatever you are speaking about.
Sexual deviations, or aberrations, occur naturally. This has been deeply studied for many years. They tend to become more pronounced in high population instances.
Homosexuality and gender "re-identification" (ie: sex change) have become 'acceptable' only in that they are decisions made by consenting adults. They are not acceptable to all, as shown even among the discussion here, but it comes down to the people involved are allowed to make their own choices and you have no say in it.
This acceptability does not apply to the other behaviors. Children, animals, machines, these cannot legally give consent, so there is no way to "talk them into it" without it still being abuse.

Are you aware of why I put the quotes around "perversions?"

Barking up the wrong tree in this direction.

 

[Robin]

..........and I don't live in a tree, nor did my ancestors.
Robin