General Malaise
.40 S&W
I’m not young, nor am I thin skinned. I posted a hypothetical at which point you insulted me. Not once, but twice. I think you’re the troll.
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Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Those who believe that some "moderate" Democrats will temper the Liberal Progressive push for crazy leftist legislation are engaging in unfounded wishful thinking. One thing you must admire about Democrats: They vote as they are told. They always fall in line and cast votes as their leadership dictates. They did it with Obamacare. Now, they have less choice. If they wish to avoid being primaried by their socialist hardcore left base, they must fall in line.
Additionally, although some Republicans are really Democrats at heart, no Democrats are really Republicans. So, the Democrats can always count on some RINO support for their agenda.
Dark times are ahead.
Stay safe. Stay vigilant. Watch your six.
Additionally, although some Republicans are really Democrats at heart, no Democrats are really Republicans. So, the Democrats can always count on some RINO support for their agenda.
Dark times are ahead.
Stay safe. Stay vigilant. Watch your six.
Interesting. I know quite a many libertarians. None of them telle they line up close to the democratic party. Again, interesting
Fuck those whores. I'm fucking ready, I have nothing at all to lose.
My life circle is getting very, very small.
I don't expect I'll see 2022 honestly.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Obviously thin skinned and no self-awareness, not attacking, just an accurate observation. No problem were done.
I'm a troll, good one. NaNa NaNa NaNa
drowhawk
.44 mag
There are some who mistakenly call themselves Libertarian when really they are "Libertarian leaning."
I am not sure what is sadder...
That you wrote this, or that you believe this.
The level of ignorance in the US right now is astounding.
I will repeat, this is not about any individual. This is about the future of the country and I am dumbfounded that many do not get this.
I hope you will be here in 2022. You bring joy to me at times.
You speak of these things, I wonder if you understand what's the Dems really lay.
Bail reform? Do you know where they really stand? If so, you think your party backs their views?
Police reform. What exactly does this mean?
Abortion? Libertarians and democrats are not even in the same chapter let alone on the same page.
I am not here to bring you or anyone else joy. I require liberty to live, without it I die.
drowhawk
.44 mag
Most Libertarians support the bail reform law in NYS. We think "innocent until proven guilty" should be more than just a phrase we use to make ourselves feel warm & fuzzy inside. We think this should be put into practice.
Most Democrat policies proposed surrounding police reform have been supported by Libertarians. Ending no-knock raids, qualified immunity, setting up independent incident review boards, etc....
The Libertarian philosophy on abortion has been (and always will be) that the government has no place in regulating the human body.
Hopefully you understand this is a honest conversation. No insults are intended.
Have you actually looked at the Bell reform that is going on in New York state? I live the Bell reform in New York state. It is a complete and total failure. In all seriousness if you have not read the Bell reform in it's entirety, you should spend some time and read it. You should see the additional rights that rapists and child molesters have under our Bell reform. This is not about my deep feelings, this is about a complete failure of this system.
I we'll say I agree to the libertarian position on abortion. Me personally I think it's disgusting that we're sucking babies in a vacuum. However I don't think the government should have a saying it one way or another. Libertarians want the government to stay out of the issue, the Democrats want to be involved 100%. I don't believe the libertarian party mirrors the Democrat party at all.
drowhawk
.44 mag
In regards to bail reform, are you referring to the "rights" afforded to ACCUSED rapists and child molesters or CONVICTED rapists and child molesters? There's a big difference.
I didn't say that Libertarian philosophy mirrored Democrat policy, I just said they aligned. What democrat policy surrounding abortion does the Libertarian party not agree with? Genuinely curious.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If you're just starting that now you're probably too late...
Whats your take on the GA fraud as you see the numbers flip in real time? Just like the Presidential Election right?
Of what I understand of the libertarian philosophy, they want no government intrusion no government laws and no government regulation in regards to the sucking of a fetus. The Democrats on the other hand, in the past 30 years or so, they have passed and enacted well over 1500 laws rules and regulations in regards to abortion.
This does not look like an alignment to me.
I could be wrong because I have never been nor will I ever be a libertarian. I do not study their platforms, I do not pay attention to their candidates. I dabble in some of their writings and that is it.
In regards to the Bell reform, I have watched accused rapists be released with no bail. I have seen many child molesters released without bail. I agree we need some bail reform, just not the garbage that is being pushed on us.
When courts are open, I see firsthand the kinds of people that are being released back into society. Convicted or accused, I do not care... I don't need them to be convicted in a trial to know some of these people are guilty. I see a lot of the evidence, again I don't want them on the street I don't want them among me and I don't want them among my family.
Our form of bell reform in this state is a joke. I am not trying to convince you to follow my thoughts, but seriously read our bail reform. I think if you fully read it you will be a sickened as I am
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
You have admitted pretty much everything I said with a reason. I wont go though it point by point because I dont have to. The fact stand on their own.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I think your looking for a date.,
drowhawk
.44 mag
I am not sickened by ACCUSED criminals being let free on their on recognizance. After all, innocent until proven guilty. I am sickened by people that think they can judge a person's innocence or guilt at arraignment. You being in law enforcement makes it even more alarming. I agree that people who are a threat to society should be in jail, I don't agree with violating their due process rights in order to accomplish this sense of "safety." Personally, I am relieved that some of the tax-payer burden of feeding and housing people for non-violent or victimless crimes has been lifted. This state needs all the financial help it can get. If some of these crimes that people are being released for are violent, and the person is clearly a threat to society, then I concede that is a flaw in the current system.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Libertarians who support abortion are being played by the left. They have managed to frame this as a "rights" issue, not a "when does a new human life begin" issue.
If you believe that a human life begins at birth, then there's no need to regulate anything, the rights issue becomes irrelevant. Of course a woman can have a mole removed if they want. Abortion would be equivalent to that.
However, if you believe a human life begins *before* birth, then it's not a rights issue at all. It's murder. Nobody has the right to commit murder.
The *only* relevant fact that needs to be defined in the abortion debate is "when does a human life start". Once you answer that, everything else becomes obvious and indisputable.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Thats pretty much what he said.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Then you completely miss the long term repercussions of these policies.
In 5 or 10 years time things will be very dire, and you'll just tell yourself "it would have been just as bad with Trump". It wouldn't.
I will agree that the establishment Dems and Republicans are 2 sides of the same coin and both are leading us down a path to disaster. The Republicans at a slower pace is all. But Trump was at least mostly trying to put the brakes on.
We're about to see "ny politics" on a national level. God help the republic.
Guns, taxes, spending, insane SJW policies, defund police, voting laws, government overreach, failing economies, destroyed businesses etc...
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
How about people who are arrested on a warrant for failing to appear ? Should they just be ROR too ?
If we are going to exercise catch and release for everything, then we might as well eliminate law enforcement altogether.
The right to a speedy trial has been completely eliminated, but the fix for that isn't to eliminate bail too. The fix is "start the trial in 2 weeks, or they walk".
I believe you may be living in a reality that is not real.
Here is a partial list of No-Bail crimes. Let some of them sink in.
Here Are All The Crimes That Now Fall Under The Bail Reform Law:
- 2nd degree Burglary of a residence
- 2nd degree Burglary as a Hate Crime
- 3rd degree Burglary of a commercial building
- 3rd degree Burglary as a Hate Crime
- 2nd degree Robbery aided by another person
- 2nd degree Robbery as a Hate Crime
- 3rd degree Robbery
- Criminal sale of a controlled substance (multiple counts)
- Using a child to commit a controlled substance crime
- Criminal possession of a controlled substance (multiple counts)
- Criminal sale of a controlled substance in or near a school
- Criminal injection of a controlled substance into another person
- Criminal sale of a controlled substance to a child
- Criminal sale of a prescription for a controlled substance by a pharmacist
- Criminal possession or creation of Methamphetamines
- 3rd degree Assault
- 3rd degree Assault as a Hate Crime
- Reckless Assault of a child by a day care provider
- Reckless Assault of a child
- Stalking (multiple counts)
- Stalking as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Vehicular Assault (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Vehicular Assault
- Aggravated Assault on a child under 11 years-old
- Aggravated Assault on a child under 11 years-old as a Hate Child
- Menacing (multiple counts)
- Menacing as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Reckless Endangerment (multiple counts)
- Promoting a suicide attempt
- 1st degree Stalking while committing a sex offense
- Criminal Obstruction of Breathing
- Criminally Negligent Homicide
- 2nd degree Vehicular Manslaughter
- Aggravated Vehicular Manslaughter
- 2nd degree Manslaughter
- Unlawful Imprisonment (multiple counts)
- Unlawful Imprisonment as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Labor Trafficking
- Custodial Interference (multiple counts)
- Substitution of children
- Coercion (multiple counts)
- Coercion as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Criminal Trespass (multiple counts)
- Criminal Trespass as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Possession of burglar’s tools
- Unlawful possession of a police scanner
- Criminal Mischief (multiple counts)
- Criminal Mischief as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Criminal Tampering (multiple counts)
- Cemetery Desecration (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Cemetery Desecration (multiple counts)
- Reckless Endangerment of property
- Tampering with a consumer product (multiple counts)
- Graffiti
- Possession of Graffiti tools
- 3rd degree Arson
- 4th degree Arson
- 5th degree Arson
- 3rd degree Arson as a Hate Crime
- 4th degree Arson as a Hate Crime
- 5th degree Arson as a Hate Crime
- Grand Larceny (multiple counts)
- Grand Larceny at a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Grand Larceny of an ATM
- Petit Larceny
- Petit Larceny as a Hate Crime
- Computer Tampering (multiple counts)
- Computer Trespass
- Unauthorized use of a computer
- Unlawful duplication of computer materials (multiple counts)
- Welfare Fraud (multiple counts)
- Criminal use of a public benefits card (multiple counts)
- Criminal possession of a public benefits card (multiple counts)
- Unauthorized use of a vehicle (multiple counts)
- Auto stripping (multiple counts)
- Theft of services
- Unauthorized use of a credit card
- Jostling
- Fraudulent Accosting
- Criminal Possession of Stolen Property (multiple counts)
- Forgery (multiple counts)
- Criminal possession of a forged instrument (multiple counts)
- Criminal possession of forgery devices
- Criminal possession of a Vehicle ID Number
- Forgery of a Vehicle ID Number
- Falsifying business records (multiple counts)
- Tampering with public records (multiple counts)
- Offering a false instrument for filing (multiple counts)
- Insurance Fraud (multiple counts)
- Health insurance fraud (multiple counts)
- Criminal diversion of prescription medications (multiple counts)
- Commercial bribery (multiple counts)
- Rent Gouging (multiple counts)
- Residential mortgage fraud (multiple counts)
- Aggravated identity theft (multiple counts)
- Bribery (multiple counts)
- Perjury (multiple counts)
- Bail jumping (multiple counts)
- Obstructing governmental administration (multiple counts)
- Obstructing governmental administration with a self-defense spray device
- Killing a Police Dog or Police Horse
- Obstructing emergency medical services
- Obstructing governmental services with a bomb
- Escape (multiple counts)
- Promoting prison contraband (multiple counts)
- Resisting arrest
- Hindering prosecution (multiple counts)
- Making a false sworn statement
- Bribing a witness
- Receiving a bribe as a witness
- Bribing a juror
- Receiving a bribe as a juror
- Providing a juror with a gratuity
- Tampering with a juror (multiple counts)
- Tampering with physical evidence
- Compounding a crime
- 1st degree Criminal Contempt – refusing to be sworn in as a witness
- 2nd degree Criminal Contempt
- ALL Gambling offenses
- ALL Prostitution offenses
- Providing indecent material in minors (multiple counts)
- Riot (multiple counts)
- Criminal Anarchy
- Harassment (multiple counts)
- Harassment as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Harassment (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Harassment as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Aggravated Harassment of an employee by an inmate
- Criminal nuisance (multiple counts)
- Falsely reporting a crime
- Pointing a laser at an aircraft (multiple counts)
- Harming a service animal (multiple counts)
- Public lewdness
- Illegal eavesdropping
- Dissemination of unlawful surveillance (multiple counts)
- Non-support of a child (multiple counts)
- Endangering the welfare of a child
- Assisting in female genital mutilation
- Endangering the welfare of an incompetent or physically disabled person
- Endangering the welfare of a vulnerable elderly person
- Endangering the welfare of a disabled person (multiple counts)
- Promoting an obscene sexual performance by a child
- Possession of an obscene sexual performance by a child
- Promoting a sexual performance by a child
- Possessing a sexual performance by a child
- 4th degree Criminal possession of a weapon
- Criminal possession of a weapon on school grounds
- Criminal possession of a firearm
- 3rd degree Criminal possession of a weapon
- Criminal purchase or disposal of a weapon
- Unlawfully wearing a body vest
- Unlawfully fleeing a police officer in a vehicle (multiple counts)
- Enterprise corruption
- Money Laundering (multiple counts)
- Money Laundering in support of terrorism (multiple counts)
- Corrupting the government (multiple counts)
- Criminal solicitation (multiple counts)
- Conspiracy (multiple counts)
- Conspiracy as a Hate Crime (multiple counts)
- Criminal facilitation (multiple counts)
Many of these, I agree, no bail is needed, hell some of these crimes listed should not even be crimes. That is an entire subject in itself....
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Agreed on Trump with the debt. That and not seizing the two years they had in control are my biggest disappointments. It’s getting stupid with the debt. I agree with others we’re going to the point of no return with the spending and debt. I think this administration will push us over the cliff.