Go To Airport… Become a Felon

[Madmallard]

As we warned, SB 554 is now scheduled for a hearing on Feb 22.
This bill will make you a felon if you travel near an airport and have a firearm, even if you are a concealed handgun license holder.
There are no exceptions and you do NOT have to enter the terminal or even leave your car.
If you pick up a friend or family member and just drive near the terminal or parking lots you can be sent to prison.
But wait, there’s more. The bill will also make you a felon if you go near any loosely defined “public building” that has declared itself a self defense free zone.

Go To Airport Go To Prison – Oregon Firearms Federation

 

[pshift]

This is for the State of Oregon but maybe a harbinger of things to come...

 

[Saltwater60]

Sounds good. Fuck it. There’s nothing to even do anymore.

 

[Chevusa]

How would anybody ever know?

 

[Robin]

How would anybody ever know?

That isn't the point.
Robin

 

[Dr. Evil]

Maybe at some point they will come up with so much stupid shit finally people will revolt. There's got to be a point where they push that tips the scales, no?

 

[Deplorable Me]

There's a lot of air space between some people's ears.

 

[Catskillkid]

Maybe at some point they will come up with so much stupid shit finally people will revolt. There's got to be a point where they push that tips the scales, no?

Re-read 1984, Brave New World, or Fahrenheit 451. At no point in any of those novels did anyone (save a few characters) do anything close to disobeying the government let alone organize a revolt. Yes, they're works of fiction but they eerily mimic life and human nature in these times if you ask me.

It's scary how much people will just blindly accept as "just the way things are" or even worse "supposed to be."

 

[Robin]

I have hopes Doc but my experience in life tells me I would be putting faith in an a worldly tribe that does not deserve such trust, people.
Robin

 

[spat]

Re-read 1984, Brave New World, or Fahrenheit 451. At no point in any of those novels did anyone (save a few characters) do anything close to disobeying the government let alone organize a revolt. Yes, they're works of fiction but they eerily mimic life and human nature in these times if you ask me.

It's scary how much people will just blindly accept as "just the way things are" or even worse "supposed to be."

See masks and lockdowns for evidence.

How many people have had their lives work destroyed by lockdowns that have not a shred of evidence supporting them.

Then those people double down when presented evidence that the lockdowns are useless (like comparing the NY to FL cases and deaths).

They cannot accept that the business they spent their whole lives building was destroyed for nothing, so they will ignore any evidence that shows otherwise.

 

[prambo]

Interesting... arresting someone under such a "law" might be very problematic.

 

[Jmac00]

How would anybody ever know?

isn't our DL tied to your vehicle registration??, IDK about Oregon, but here the cops know when they approach your car

 

[Jmac00]

it seems they turned the state of Oregon into a giant post office.

 

[drowhawk]

As long as they tell the criminals, I'm cool with it. Equal playing field ya know.

 

[dwa12479]

isn't our DL tied to your vehicle registration??, IDK about Oregon, but here the cops know when they approach your car

Fake news.

 

[seezur]

Option is the same as it has been for all of this. Either you give in with each progressively restrictive law until you’re completely disarmed, or you become a “criminal” and if you get “caught“ you can make a stand or stand down and do your time. There won’t be a big rebellion. It has been, and will be, criminals shooting it out with state and occasionally federal officers.

Of course, some of those criminals will be heroin dealers or rapists or murderers and some will be people who work 9 to 5, support local charities, and treat their fellow man justly and with goodwill (but they happened to have a pistol on them when dropping someone off at the airport). Under the law they’re classified the same.
Such is the state of the 2A.

 

[Grimscale]

Fake news.

Which part is fake? That the DL is tied to vehicle registration or that the cop will know as he approaches your vehicle?

Because I can attest, based on personal experience, that an NYSP officer KNOWS if you have a pistol permit before they even talk to you on the side of the road.

 

[Chevusa]

isn't our DL tied to your vehicle registration??, IDK about Oregon, but here the cops know when they approach your car

No, even if it were, a permit does not equal possession.

 

[Chevusa]

Which part is fake? That the DL is tied to vehicle registration or that the cop will know as he approaches your vehicle?

Because I can attest, based on personal experience, that an NYSP officer KNOWS if you have a pistol permit before they even talk to you on the side of the road.

Maybe if they take additional steps but running a reg or lic does not disclose a permit's existence. Just because you were asked about weapons doesn't mean they know of a permit. It's a pretty standard question.

 

[Robin]

Since when?
Robin

 

[Jmac00]

No, even if it were, a permit does not equal possession.

TRUE, but the point is, the cops know you own firearms before he approaches your vehicle. may not necessarily mean you have a gun on you, but he knows you do, in fact, own guns

 

[Grimscale]

Since when?
Robin

for myself? Approximately 10 years ago when I had my interaction with NYSP. Not because I was doing something stupid, but because I witnessed someone weaving all over the 490 and then running off the side and into the trees.
Unlike most people, I didn't just drive away. I stayed, called 911, and waited to give my statement about the person's erratic behavior.
Cop came up to the truck and said "I see you have a permit, you don't have any weapons on you right now, do you?". That was before he even saw my license.

 

[Robin]

Huh, never been asked.
Robin

 

[Chevusa]

TRUE, but the point is, the cops know you own firearms before he approaches your vehicle. may not necessarily mean you have a gun on you, but he knows you do, in fact, own guns

Don't believe so

 

[repete]

TRUE, but the point is, the cops know you own firearms before he approaches your vehicle. may not necessarily mean you have a gun on you, but he knows you do, in fact, own guns

"Guns" no, handguns maybe.

 

[Acer-m14]

TRUE, but the point is, the cops know you own firearms before he approaches your vehicle. may not necessarily mean you have a gun on you, but he knows you do, in fact, own guns

So Say now i have my moms extra car because my truck died and then i unload the truck .. she has no PP nor has done 1 .. 4473 .. now its full of guns
.. tell me how they know ??


lets see what's in the back from last inventory from deer hunting .. there's 200 round of 12ga birdshot ( skeet shooting).. 300 rounds of Mosin ammo .. the M44 ( Deer ) .. the 270 win (Deer) , the skb over under 12ga (skeet).. compound bow and arrows .. .. i think there is a lee powder measure in there too .. oh and a inline musket and stuff for it .. and ear muff protection .. first aid kit ..

 

[Shadow2]

Your better then me, the last time i was asked if i had any weapons on me i asked the cop to define weapon. He then rephrased his question. Weapons are illegal to have in your possession.

Article 265 Penal Law Firearms - Dangerous Weapons | NY Law

Firearms and Other Dangerous Weapons. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree

ypdcrime.com

for myself? Approximately 10 years ago when I had my interaction with NYSP. Not because I was doing something stupid, but because I witnessed someone weaving all over the 490 and then running off the side and into the trees.
Unlike most people, I didn't just drive away. I stayed, called 911, and waited to give my statement about the person's erratic behavior.
Cop came up to the truck and said "I see you have a permit, you don't have any weapons on you right now, do you?". That was before he even saw my license.

 

[GOPerfect]

Just as a point of information....

Not all departments can pull up Pistol Permit information when your plate is read. Some can, some cannot.

 

[dwa12479]

for myself? Approximately 10 years ago when I had my interaction with NYSP. Not because I was doing something stupid, but because I witnessed someone weaving all over the 490 and then running off the side and into the trees.
Unlike most people, I didn't just drive away. I stayed, called 911, and waited to give my statement about the person's erratic behavior.
Cop came up to the truck and said "I see you have a permit, you don't have any weapons on you right now, do you?". That was before he even saw my license.

Just running a plate does not automatically alert them that you are a PP holder. LEOs have to dig deeper on their own to find that out. And not all depts have access. This is a direct statement from a friend who is a trooper.

 

[Jmac00]

So Say now i have my moms extra car because my truck died and then i unload the truck .. she has no PP nor has done 1 .. 4473 .. now its full of guns
.. tell me how they know ??


lets see what's in the back from last inventory from deer hunting .. there's 200 round of 12ga birdshot ( skeet shooting).. 300 rounds of Mosin ammo .. the M44 ( Deer ) .. the 270 win (Deer) , the skb over under 12ga (skeet).. compound bow and arrows .. .. i think there is a lee powder measure in there too .. oh and a inline musket and stuff for it .. and ear muff protection .. first aid kit ..

if im driving my wifes truck, she has nothing registered to her, but in my service truck, troopers do.

really, this has never been an issue. Every cop I have had interactions with literally couldn't careless if i was armed. even when we rolled the truck, the trooper and sheriff were very cool about me having a couple hand guns