Good shoot? Manslaughter charges brought in Michigan garage burglary shooting

[C3D]

Was it a good shoot, or not?

tl;dr Man shoots into his closed windowless detached garage through a closed door because he believes a burglary is in progress, killing a young man.

Michigan man charged after fatally shooting teen who broke into garage

A Michigan man fatally shot a teen who broke into his garage and is now facing a manslaughter rap — sparking controversy over the state’s “Stand Your Ground” law. Sivan Wilson, 17, was with six oth…

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[pshift]

If he fired 2 shot from inside the home to inside of his garage, he should be OK. It's questionable with 5 shots fired afterwards, and then going back into his house, and reloading on top of that. SMH.

They needed to be taught a lesson but ....

 

[Saltwater60]

I’d have to look up the law in Michigan to apply it. I don’t really care enough to do that so I will apply NYS’s law and say they were both unoccupied dwellings and he should have stayed inside his home and called police. Shooting anyone breaking into an unoccupied dwelling in NYS is a bad move.
Now personally I do not think I’d shoot someone for breaking into my car or garage even if legally allowed to. I do not think a piece of property is worth a human life. I value life more than property. I guess the same could be said for homes because the assailant could truly mean you no harm but breaking into a house is very different and the chance of something to go wrong increases exponentially.

 

[dwa12479]

Well, I cant say I condone shooting through a windowless door without being able to see whats behind it. Nor would I condone shooting at fleeing perps in a residential neighborhood with no regard for your neighbors. Both actions are very reckless and make gun owners look bad.

On the other hand, if these yutes were doing something productive with their time instead of breaking and entering in the middle of the night, they wouldn't be getting shot at.

 

[Brawny71]

A lot of variables. They do have Castle Doctrine but I’m still looking for their definition. Justification is also hard to find in their penal code. Stand your ground is also there. https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/Publications/Firearms.pdf

The unanswered question: What were all these good kids doing in someone else’s garage without permission. I know I know. But ultimately, not in my personal definition of taking life.

[MI Law] 780.972 Use of deadly force by individual not engaged in commission of crime; conditions.
Sec. 2. (1) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses deadly force may use deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if either of the following applies:
(a) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent death of or imminent great bodily harm to himself or herself or to another individual.
(b) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent sexual assault of himself or herself or of another individual.
(2) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses force other than deadly force may use force other than deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if he or she honestly and reasonably believes that the use of that force is necessary to defend himself or herself or another individual from the imminent unlawful use of force by another individual.

 

[Zerex]

“This defendant crossed the line by firing outside his home at fleeing persons,”

Oops...............

I never shoot through a door...................doors cost too much.

Fleeing deer are ok to shoot.............

 

[Brawny71]

Also hard to verify imminent threat thru a closed door with no window.

 

[C3D]

A lot of variables. They do have Castle Doctrine but I’m still looking for their definition. Justification is also hard to find in their penal code. Stand your ground is also there. https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/Publications/Firearms.pdf

Just FYI, in New York State the castle doctrine extends to your garage but only if it is part of the main house. A separate structure is not part of your castle. A garage attached to the main house that does not have a passage door into the house does in fact count as part of the castle.

Also if you live in an apartment or condo, nothing outside of your apartment (including garages, hallways, elevators) is part of your castle.