When I got my NY CCW back in NY about a decade ago, I saw how they "slow walked" permits. Doing manual searches, sequentially, and one agency at a time, and sending stuff using snail mail. Holding up applications until the piles got big enough to then dump on someone else's desk. Delaying for ANY technical excuse they could find. Burying files in stacks on the floor. Or just "losing" them all together. Now, I see where some NY Counties have found another delay tactic, wherein they delay by making you wait months to even turn in an application. Or to wait weeks just to add a gun to our NY permits. Seems like some things never change with certain anti's...
When I got my CCW permit down here in NC, it took like 5 weeks total, not a year +/-, and was quite painless. Had to take a course. Applied online in the lobby of the Sheriff's Office, and then hand in my course certificate. Even before they issue your CCW, you can buy "Purchase Permits" for $5.00 each that are available a day or two after you apply for your CCW, and those allow you to walk in and buy a handgun for home protection (and actually, since open carry is legal in NC without a CCW permit, you can carry right away, openly, if you prefer). No BS waiting like in NY to add handguns on to your printed CCW permit card. They don't track the handguns you own down here like in NY.
I recently moved to SC, and so I had to apply for my SC permit (I didn't need a SC CWP permit to bring the handguns I owned in NC into SC, - only needed it in order to carry concealed). Once I moved to SC, my NC CCW was no longer accepted here in SC as I was no longer a NC resident. Getting my SC CWP was still a lot better than in NY, but not quite as painless as in NC. My girlfriend and I had to take an 8 hour course including live fire. The course and live fire were painfully slow and boring. Ugh! (I can't imagine how ridiculous a 16 hour course is!) The live fire was optional for me, as I could have claimed exemption from it for being a veteran and submitting my DD214. I didn't do that, and I did the live fire to relieve the boredom and to keep my girlfriend company. Then we had to apply to SC SLED (South Carolina Law Enforcement Division), which we did online. Only after did that could we go to IdentiGo for fingerprinting, photography, and document submission. (The IdentiGo office was really weird. Almost like a self service morgue. Waited to be called back for fingerprinting, and the clerks were about as friendly as zombies. No one there had a sense of humor. It was very strange!)
Anyway, both of our permits were processed on the same day, and our permit numbers are almost sequential. However, hers was processed in 3 weeks (after SC SLED told us our permits would take 3 months or so). Strangely, hers was issued, but was not mailed until over a week later?
But my permit did not show up. Then, a couple of weeks later, I get a request to submit my DD214, and to either mail it in, or email it to them. I emailed it the same day I received their letter to save time. And then, nothing. Finally, after a couple of weeks I called them and asked if there was a problem, and had they gotten my emailed DD214? Sadly, they informed me that the clerk who reads the emails sent to them had quit, and nobody was reading them! WTF? So, I snail mailed them another copy. I called them a couple of weeks later to check status. The person I spoke to checked and finally came back and told me that yes, they had received the snail mailed copy, and my permit was approved and issued. Still took another couple of weeks for them to mail it out to me though.
I am guessing that snail mail here in the South is even slower than back in NY, LOL!
On the plus side down here, some state agencies DO have a sense of humor! When I got my SC Driver's License, they happily allowed me to wear my religious headgear as a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster! And they use that very same picture on my SC DL AND my SC CWP!
In fact, here in SC, they will allow you to wear ANYTHING on your head if you tell them that it is your religious headgear! I wish I had know that earlier, - I might have worn a blue Flinstone's Water Buffalo Lodge hat with white horns, and the Buffalo Bills logo on it!
Now the TSA? They don't have a sense of humor, at all. When I flew to Buffalo recently, they initially refused to accept my SC DL with my "religious headgear", and told me it was fake!
When I got my CCW permit down here in NC, it took like 5 weeks total, not a year +/-, and was quite painless. Had to take a course. Applied online in the lobby of the Sheriff's Office, and then hand in my course certificate. Even before they issue your CCW, you can buy "Purchase Permits" for $5.00 each that are available a day or two after you apply for your CCW, and those allow you to walk in and buy a handgun for home protection (and actually, since open carry is legal in NC without a CCW permit, you can carry right away, openly, if you prefer). No BS waiting like in NY to add handguns on to your printed CCW permit card. They don't track the handguns you own down here like in NY.
I recently moved to SC, and so I had to apply for my SC permit (I didn't need a SC CWP permit to bring the handguns I owned in NC into SC, - only needed it in order to carry concealed). Once I moved to SC, my NC CCW was no longer accepted here in SC as I was no longer a NC resident. Getting my SC CWP was still a lot better than in NY, but not quite as painless as in NC. My girlfriend and I had to take an 8 hour course including live fire. The course and live fire were painfully slow and boring. Ugh! (I can't imagine how ridiculous a 16 hour course is!) The live fire was optional for me, as I could have claimed exemption from it for being a veteran and submitting my DD214. I didn't do that, and I did the live fire to relieve the boredom and to keep my girlfriend company. Then we had to apply to SC SLED (South Carolina Law Enforcement Division), which we did online. Only after did that could we go to IdentiGo for fingerprinting, photography, and document submission. (The IdentiGo office was really weird. Almost like a self service morgue. Waited to be called back for fingerprinting, and the clerks were about as friendly as zombies. No one there had a sense of humor. It was very strange!)
Anyway, both of our permits were processed on the same day, and our permit numbers are almost sequential. However, hers was processed in 3 weeks (after SC SLED told us our permits would take 3 months or so). Strangely, hers was issued, but was not mailed until over a week later?
But my permit did not show up. Then, a couple of weeks later, I get a request to submit my DD214, and to either mail it in, or email it to them. I emailed it the same day I received their letter to save time. And then, nothing. Finally, after a couple of weeks I called them and asked if there was a problem, and had they gotten my emailed DD214? Sadly, they informed me that the clerk who reads the emails sent to them had quit, and nobody was reading them! WTF? So, I snail mailed them another copy. I called them a couple of weeks later to check status. The person I spoke to checked and finally came back and told me that yes, they had received the snail mailed copy, and my permit was approved and issued. Still took another couple of weeks for them to mail it out to me though.
I am guessing that snail mail here in the South is even slower than back in NY, LOL!
On the plus side down here, some state agencies DO have a sense of humor! When I got my SC Driver's License, they happily allowed me to wear my religious headgear as a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster! And they use that very same picture on my SC DL AND my SC CWP!
In fact, here in SC, they will allow you to wear ANYTHING on your head if you tell them that it is your religious headgear! I wish I had know that earlier, - I might have worn a blue Flinstone's Water Buffalo Lodge hat with white horns, and the Buffalo Bills logo on it!
Now the TSA? They don't have a sense of humor, at all. When I flew to Buffalo recently, they initially refused to accept my SC DL with my "religious headgear", and told me it was fake!
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