How to Fix This Country

[Darth]

I’m not defending anything. I’m posting facts and what’s currently occurring and what I feel will continue to occur.
If people here feel legalizing drugs will prevent crime it won’t because it’s too costly to do it the government’s way and there will still be a black market and drug dealer lead by gangs. It’s not my policy it’s not what I want I’m just saying that’s what will continue to happen.

You are saying "we must continue to do it in manner X, because look how manner Y (a manner in which is not legalization, but rather bad policy taxation nonsense) worked."

 

[Blimey]

I don't see a future for the country in anything approximating its past.

It looks to me like "strength in diversity", which was never proven by anybody is not working well these days. The left thrives on the division and become emboldened daily.

I see either an authoritarian socialist/communist future for all of us, or a fascist dictatorship, it the result of a push back from the far right. Both will result in purges and both will result in the death of the USA. This country is clearly getting worse by the year, not better. It is stick to its core now and the rot grows.

Simply Americans are too ignorant of history not to repeat it.

 

[E the massive]

Just start planting marihuana everywhere. Make it impossible to control.

 

[Airborneguy]

And simplicity.

The fact that we have "reams of precedent" on probable cause suggests that we do not have a good definition.

No it means that lawyers kept trying but courts didn’t waver.

 

[technicalgadget]

The solution is to make police officers , jury and executioner.

 

[Saltwater60]

You are saying "we must continue to do it in manner X, because look how manner Y (a manner in which is not legalization, but rather bad policy taxation nonsense) worked."

Show me where I said we must do one thing or the other. All I said is the proposal of the OP won’t work because the government can’t keep their hands or taxes off of things and making costs rise and a black market flourish. That’s all I said. I never claimed I had the answers.

 

[Marine Cpl]

There plenty of states right now that allow recreational use of weed no prescription. If you’re going to argue this at least know the facts. Also bootleg liquor is still a thing. Not so much in the north but a lot of the rest of the country it is. Also lots and lots of home brewers and wine makers.

Keep in mind you’ll never get the states to not tax drugs. Never. Legalizing these items will cost $$ from police and medical calls and it should be taxed to pay for that. I won’t touch the stuff either way so I should have to pay for it.

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Since seeing your post, I have started reading many articles and blogs. I’ve also read some threads on grasscity and thctalk which are the biggest pot forums in the world. Turns out that people from low class urban areas that normally associate with the criminal element continue to buy from the criminal element because that’s all they know. Same reason they buy guns on the street rather than from a legitimate dealer even if they have no record.

People from slightly lower middle class, continue to buy from the street because it’s slightly cheaper but want to buy from legal dispensaries to avoid hassles and try all the different strains and chocolates and lollipops that come from legal dispensaries.

People from the middle class and upper middle class and higher just buy from legal areas.

It’s definitely a monetary thing just like anything else. To put things into perspective, I’ll use myself. I work in an urban area that I could get bootleg cigarettes for cheaper but I buy from legal means although it costs me a few bucks more a pack because I do not want to deal with or get caught up with criminal element.

Also, it turns out that dealers are buying from legal dispensaries in California and going to places that do not have legal dispensaries and selling it for higher.

 

[Darth]

Show me where I said we must do one thing or the other. All I said is the proposal of the OP won’t work because the government can’t keep their hands or taxes off of things and making costs rise and a black market flourish. That’s all I said. I never claimed I had the answers.

You are the one making the erroneous claim that legislation doesn't work, because people still use the black market because of the taxes. You are the one that posted a link showing this.