Kamala Harris - Biden's Choice for VP (merged threads)

[Marine Cpl]

At this point, Paul, Massie, or Amash look like a better choice than anyone on a ballot.

And that right there is exactly why the left wins. You are voting for people that no one else is voting for. People who they themselves aren’t going to vote for themselves. People who aren’t even interested in running.

I may as well vote for you.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Your vote here absolutely does count even though it will always go to a D. It is counted towards the popular vote. The popular vote can shut down arguments from the other side if your candidate got it.

Uh, what?

 

[Darth]

Uh, what?

The popular vote all of a sudden matters again.

 

[Jcp123]

And that right there is exactly why the left wins. You are voting for people that no one else is voting for. People who they themselves aren’t going to vote for themselves. People who aren’t even interested in running.

I may as well vote for you.

I get it, but at the same time, I can’t really in good conscience vote for candidates I don’t actually share that much with. I understand that our system has built into it a two party system, but on the other hand, I just can’t get on board with what feels like surrendering my sovereignty out of convenience. We’d get a lot more vibrancy and churn in the parties if we got out of the rut we’re in that way.

I will say, I had a bit of hope that Trump might shatter that, but it looks like that backfired. Just made folks dig their heels in.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Uh, what?

It counts towards the National popular vote. Does it not? Does it shut up those that say that your candidate lost the popular vote if he got it instead?

 

[BDinPutnam]

It counts towards the National popular vote. Does it not? Does it shut up those that say that your candidate lost the popular vote?

I'm not following.

The popular vote affects nothing.

What is your point? And please don't tell me "majority rules."

 

[Darth]

I get it, but at the same time, I can’t really in good conscience vote for candidates I don’t actually share that much with. I understand that our system has built into it a two party system, but on the other hand, I just can’t get on board with what feels like surrendering my sovereignty out of convenience. We’d get a lot more vibrancy and churn in the parties if we got out of the rut we’re in that way.

I will say, I had a bit of hope that Trump might shatter that, but it looks like that backfired. Just made folks dig their heels in.

Don't be browbeaten.

We see where the 2 party nonsense got us.

The problem lies squarely with those continuing with it.

 

[Jcp123]

Don't be browbeaten.

We see where the 2 party nonsense got us.

The problem lies squarely with those continuing with it.

You’re right, but I’m also not a confrontational type. I’ll talk it out but squaring up against folks neither wins minds nor influences people. I also have to acknowledge the fact that while I accuse folks of digging in their heels, mine are also in fact dug in. Just at a pretty oblique angle most folks won’t understand, lol

 

[Jcp123]

I'm not following.

The popular vote affects nothing.

What is your point? And please don't tell me "majority rules."

I think he’s saying that it’s a decent rhetorical device. Not wrong, but also not necessarily that effective.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm not following.

The popular vote affects nothing.

What is your point? And please don't tell me "majority rules."

Sigh. Let’s assume for the sake of discussion that you like Trump. He is your man. In the last election, the left went batshit crazy because “How can he be president if he lost the majority? It’s not fair!”

So now let’s say that instead of what normally happens, doesn’t happen this time. You actually go out and vote for Trump here in NY despite knowing that he will lose NY State rather than stay at home like last election because your vote doesn’t count. You go out anyway and cast your vote for him. Your uncle in Montana that normally stays home because his legs hurt and his vote doesn’t really make a difference because Montana will go to his man Trump anyways, goes out and votes for Trump this time around.

All Trump supporters do this. Guess what? Trump wins the electoral and the popular. Now what can the left bitch about?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Sigh. Let’s assume for the sake of discussion that you like Trump. He is your man. In the last election, the left went batshit crazy because “How can he be president if he lost the majority? It’s not fair!”

So now let’s say that instead of what normally happens, doesn’t happen this time. You actually go out and vote for Trump here in NY despite knowing that he will lose NY State rather than stay at home like last election because your vote doesn’t count. You go out anyway and cast your vote for him. Your uncle in Montana that normally stays home because his legs hurt and his vote doesn’t really make a difference because Montana will go to his man Trump anyways, goes out and votes for Trump this time around.

All Trump supporters do this. Guess what? Trump wins the electoral and the popular. Now what can the left bitch about?

Huh?

What do you mean "what normally happens"?

 

[BDinPutnam]

I think he’s saying that it’s a decent rhetorical device. Not wrong, but also not necessarily that effective.

All presidential campaigns run on the notion of winning the electoral college. All of them. Their strategies, tactics, spending, where they spend time campaigning and where they don't... all of it is designed to win the electorL college. Not this pot of gold at the end of the rainbow "popular vote."

 

[Marine Cpl]

Huh?

What do you mean "what normally happens"?

Are you joking around? I do not know how much clearer I could have put it.

 

[Jcp123]

All presidential campaigns run on the notion of winning the electoral college. All of them. Their strategies, tactics, spending, where they spend time campaigning and where they don't... all of it is designed to win the electorL college. Not this pot of gold at the end of the rainbow "popular vote."

I don’t think that’s what’s in dispute. If I read what he said correctly, then popular vote “wins” are a bonus you can use in a debate to shut that angle of attack down more easily than going into the weeds explaining why the electoral college is a good idea.

 

[Elwood]

Well trump hasn’t gotten us nuked by the North Koreans yet, he hasn’t started any new wars. Things weren’t too terrible up until the pandemic.
He seems to really piss off Pelosi, Schumer and company. Creep sleepy Joe and Handjob Harris want to effectively do away with the 2nd, and the 2 party system has been fucking me since before I was old enough to vote. We’re so far down the path now that it won’t be much longer before the train jumps the tracks, I’m still optimistic though that eventually the Ham & Swiss will pull off an upset victory.

but if I gotta pick one of the trash bags running, I’ll stick with the Cheeto, he was doing pretty good for my 401k. That and him and lil’ andy fucking hate each other, he can’t be all bad.

 

[Chevusa]

 

[BDinPutnam]

I don’t think that’s what’s in dispute. If I read what he said correctly, then popular vote “wins” are a bonus you can use in a debate to shut that angle of attack down more easily than going into the weeds explaining why the electoral college is a good idea.

See, but I don't give a rats ass about the popular vote as a rhetorical cudgel. Never have. Never will.

 

[Jcp123]

See, but I don't give a rats ass about the popular vote as a rhetorical cudgel. Never have. Never will.

Fair enough. I’ll only carry his water so far, lol

 

[spat]

It was a horrible progressive experiment that failed miserably.

Don't they all ?

 

[spat]

So I don't know anything about this broad, but from what I have read in this thread, she's promiscuous, which is right up my alley. What did I miss?

She's not some $2 crack whore.

She's a politician, and the Democrat vice presidential candidate at that.

So, in short way more slimy. You're much better off taking your chances with the crack whore. At least there are drugs to cure most of what you can get from from them.

 

[spat]

See, but I don't give a rats ass about the popular vote as a rhetorical cudgel. Never have. Never will.

We should really go back to the "only land owners can vote" thing.


How about a bicameral legislature, one house elected by land owners and the other by taxpayers.

Everyone else is SOL.

 

[Jmac00]

 

[Jmac00]

 

[Jcp123]

Ironically, beyond her behavior as a DA, I’m surprised she and Willie Brown aren’t instantly canceled by feminists. As uptight as Republicans can be about sex, wokesters are funny about how puritanical they can be as well.

 

[Chevusa]

It is pretty funny how now all of the BLM idiots will be voting for a cop for VP.

Oh yeah, her family owned slaves too.

FLASHBACK: Kamala Harris Descends From Slave Owner Who Said Slaves Were ‘Comfortable’, According To Her Father

Sen. Harris' ancestors traced back to slave owners, according to her father.

dailycaller.com

 

[Jcp123]

I can’t possibly see what logical angle the slave thing is. It’s not like she could have magically reached out of the uterus to change history.

 

[Chevusa]

I can’t possibly see what logical angle the slave thing is. It’s not like she could have magically reached out of the uterus to change history.

It's gotta work both ways...... They want to bring it up selectively. Nope. Sorry. Look in the mirror.

 

[GOPerfect]

but......but....."people of color" would make them colored people,we can use that again?

I do. Their terms and words... I used colored all of the time.

 

[Jcp123]

It's gotta work both ways...... They want to bring it up selectively. Nope. Sorry. Look in the mirror.

Yup, that’s always the spoof. Dumb things usually supersede obvious things in our politics.

 

[GOPerfect]