Man Pushed in Front of the Coming Train

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kev74 said:
I'd like to see our buck toothed, bobble head governor ride the subways without her protective detail. After all, the subways are safe!
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^^^ THIS ^^^


The buck toothed, bobble head governor is a disaster for all New Yorkers, even for her New York City supporters. Hochul the Horrible is in way over her head and she is a disgrace.

She obviously doesn't have what it takes to be an effective Governor for NYS.
Who's side is she on anyway? The illegal turd worlders or the New York tax-paying citizens.

Like Cuomo, she is on the wrong side of every issue that affects New Yorkers.
How does someone even do that? Follow the money? George Soro's money? IDK
 
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From the video, The victim was standing close to the edge and absorbed in looking at his phone. Not blaming him. Good lesson for situational awareness. For any members who have to use the subway, PLEASE stand back from the tracks! Try to be aware of your surroundings and those around you while on the platform.
 
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The bright lines are there for a reason. No matter how many times this happens people continue to stand too close to the track. He's also in another world on his phone. Because of this I have no sympathy here. Standing that close isn't going to buy you anything. Is a better seat in a shitcan really worth this danger? You can also stand to go 30 seconds without being on your phone! People are hopelessly addicted to their devices and it makes me sick. For situations like this I have a few rules to avoid disaster.

1. don't go to shitholes like NYC
2. observe and follow safety warnings and signs (like bright colored lines you're supposed to stay behind)
3. be aware of your surroundings
4. don't go to shitholes like NYC
 
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There isn't a subway system anywhere near me. Public transit has absolutely no bearing on my life. That didn't happen by accident.


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I live in a red county within New York State and have safety and security for the most part.

Those city people can have their blue shithole, better them than me, that's for damn sure.

Lee (tough on crime) Zeldon was an option for the citiots, but no. The New York City people couldn't have that. They couldn't vote for a Republican no matter what, herp derp.

So I guess they will all live day in and day out as easy prey to the criminals and be happy with that. What else can I say at this point? It seems to be that's what they prefer. They always vote for the Democrat, the enablers and supporters of the violent criminals.



The NYC voters can keep on keeping on doing what they do. Until then, it's really hard for someone like me to give much of a fucking fuck about their situation in the shithole that they have created for themselves. Elections have consequences is what I'm trying to say.


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IrishMick said:
From the video, The victim was standing close to the edge and absorbed in looking at his phone. Not blaming him. Good lesson for situational awareness. For any members who have to use the subway, PLEASE stand back from the tracks! Try to be aware of your surroundings and those around you while on the platform.
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Thats me, keep my back against a column, no phone activity, and keeping 360 awareness.
 
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He was standing behind yellow line. We don't know how long he was looking at his phone. Maybe just reading a text from someone important. I would stand further away, but he wasn't acting unreasonable by any means. He was pushed forcefully and few more feet probably would not make a difference.
 
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He was standing behind yellow line. We don't know how long he was looking at his phone. Maybe just reading a text from someone important. I would stand further away, but he wasn't acting unreasonable by any means. He was pushed forcefully and few more feet probably would not make a difference.
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That's a good point.

The overwhelming majority of us know what the actual problem is, this isn't rocket science. lol

But the city people insist on always voting for the weak on crime political party. Doh!
 
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Mosinitis said:
He was standing behind yellow line. We don't know how long he was looking at his phone. Maybe just reading a text from someone important. I would stand further away, but he wasn't acting unreasonable by any means. He was pushed forcefully and few more feet probably would not make a difference.
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He appeared to be looking at his phone the entire time the perp was behind him, to me thats far too long knowing what we know about the subways.

Not that its his fault, but being vigilant can help protect you when your in the jungle full of wild animals.
 
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Where I live someone would pull someone (away) from the train tracks.
Even at a risk to themselves.

I just thought I'd mention it.

I don't get city people, it sure does seem like a garbage society.
But I'm a farm country redneck, so what do I know about it?
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I imagine most of the good samaritans in NYC have rightfully turned away from helping since Bragg's assault of Daniel Penny for doing the right thing. FUAB
 
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Mosinitis said:
He was standing behind yellow line. We don't know how long he was looking at his phone. Maybe just reading a text from someone important. I would stand further away, but he wasn't acting unreasonable by any means. He was pushed forcefully and few more feet probably would not make a difference.
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Let me be clear. The victim was doing nothing wrong, illegal, or frivolous. I can only use my observation of the provided video to see the length of his cell phone use (which appears to be the entire time).
The yellow line on the platform is placed to keep you from being struck by the train. It's only a foot or two from the edge of the platform. It was not intended as a buffer zone to recover from scumbags shoving you forcefully in front of moving trains. Thinking in terms of the Tuellar Drill, that a knife attack can reach you before you can draw and fire in under 21'. How many feet to recover from a violent shove from the back? I'm guessing here but I believe that it would take al least 1-2 paces to regain balance (that would equate to 3-6 feet), and possibly another pace to arrest the forward momentum (another 1.5-3 feet). I know that puts you around 8-9 feet from the edge to hopefully not wind up on the tracks. It also creates a more complex timing solution for the attacker to actually shove you directly in front of a moving object. Putting your back to a post or wall also helps mitigate this situation as Celt said. I know many subway platforms are narrow and often crowded, but doing the best you can with what you have is imperative.
Being 100% aware of your surroundings is also very important. Being absorbed in your phone, a book, some human distraction, or even the thoughts in your head means you aren't being aware of your immediate vicinity. We must constantly train ourselves on this. No matter how good we think our situational awareness is, it can always be improved upon.
This is extremely important in a close environment, like a subway platform, but also on the streets. Waiting for a light to change to cross an intersection, how often are we at the edge of the curb or even off it already? (I know that I am often in this situation, need to work on that). People are shoved into oncoming traffic all the time. Walk around and tell me the percentage of people you see with their heads buried in their phones and honestly ask yourself "Do I do that sometimes?". We should be scanning our vicinity and know what's coming toward us and what's behind us and next to us. I bet even the most vigilant can improve upon this.
The victim of this attack wasn't expecting to be shoved in front of a train and he shouldn't have to worry about attacks upon his person when he clearly is minding his own business. Shouldn't have to, but that's not the world we live in today. The previous attack on the woman being set on fire shouldn't have happened either. The reports said she had dozed off. If she was awake I posit that that shitbag would have had a more difficult time doing it.
Definitely not blaming the victims of these heinous crimes just pointing out the lessons on being more vigilant that their attacks can teach us and food for thought to use in our daily movements.
 
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IrishMick said:
Let me be clear. The victim was doing nothing wrong, illegal, or frivolous. I can only use my observation of the provided video to see the length of his cell phone use (which appears to be the entire time).
The yellow line on the platform is placed to keep you from being struck by the train. It's only a foot or two from the edge of the platform. It was not intended as a buffer zone to recover from scumbags shoving you forcefully in front of moving trains. Thinking in terms of the Tuellar Drill, that a knife attack can reach you before you can draw and fire in under 21'. How many feet to recover from a violent shove from the back? I'm guessing here but I believe that it would take al least 1-2 paces to regain balance (that would equate to 3-6 feet), and possibly another pace to arrest the forward momentum (another 1.5-3 feet). I know that puts you around 8-9 feet from the edge to hopefully not wind up on the tracks. It also creates a more complex timing solution for the attacker to actually shove you directly in front of a moving object. Putting your back to a post or wall also helps mitigate this situation as Celt said. I know many subway platforms are narrow and often crowded, but doing the best you can with what you have is imperative.
Being 100% aware of your surroundings is also very important. Being absorbed in your phone, a book, some human distraction, or even the thoughts in your head means you aren't being aware of your immediate vicinity. We must constantly train ourselves on this. No matter how good we think our situational awareness is, it can always be improved upon.
This is extremely important in a close environment, like a subway platform, but also on the streets. Waiting for a light to change to cross an intersection, how often are we at the edge of the curb or even off it already? (I know that I am often in this situation, need to work on that). People are shoved into oncoming traffic all the time. Walk around and tell me the percentage of people you see with their heads buried in their phones and honestly ask yourself "Do I do that sometimes?". We should be scanning our vicinity and know what's coming toward us and what's behind us and next to us. I bet even the most vigilant can improve upon this.
The victim of this attack wasn't expecting to be shoved in front of a train and he shouldn't have to worry about attacks upon his person when he clearly is minding his own business. Shouldn't have to, but that's not the world we live in today. The previous attack on the woman being set on fire shouldn't have happened either. The reports said she had dozed off. If she was awake I posit that that shitbag would have had a more difficult time doing it.
Definitely not blaming the victims of these heinous crimes just pointing out the lessons on being more vigilant that their attacks can teach us and food for thought to use in our daily movements.
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Devices are a HUGE problem. When I'm out and about, the number of people with their faces buried in their devices is staggering. Even more crazy is those I see walking around with head phones/ear buds. That's a bad idea even when alone in a remote location like a forest (for obvious reasons). To totally obscure one of your senses in a crowded metro is absolute insanity. I'm glad that I don't even know where my cell is half the time. The state of personal relationships between humans is not surprising.

ETA i'm not an old curmudgeon that dislikes tech or anything like that either. I'm actually a junior to many here by far. I just feel the zeitgeist of times past were much better.
 
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IrishMick said:
Let me be clear. The victim was doing nothing wrong, illegal, or frivolous. I can only use my observation of the provided video to see the length of his cell phone use (which appears to be the entire time).
The yellow line on the platform is placed to keep you from being struck by the train. It's only a foot or two from the edge of the platform. It was not intended as a buffer zone to recover from scumbags shoving you forcefully in front of moving trains. Thinking in terms of the Tuellar Drill, that a knife attack can reach you before you can draw and fire in under 21'. How many feet to recover from a violent shove from the back? I'm guessing here but I believe that it would take al least 1-2 paces to regain balance (that would equate to 3-6 feet), and possibly another pace to arrest the forward momentum (another 1.5-3 feet). I know that puts you around 8-9 feet from the edge to hopefully not wind up on the tracks. It also creates a more complex timing solution for the attacker to actually shove you directly in front of a moving object. Putting your back to a post or wall also helps mitigate this situation as Celt said. I know many subway platforms are narrow and often crowded, but doing the best you can with what you have is imperative.
Being 100% aware of your surroundings is also very important. Being absorbed in your phone, a book, some human distraction, or even the thoughts in your head means you aren't being aware of your immediate vicinity. We must constantly train ourselves on this. No matter how good we think our situational awareness is, it can always be improved upon.
This is extremely important in a close environment, like a subway platform, but also on the streets. Waiting for a light to change to cross an intersection, how often are we at the edge of the curb or even off it already? (I know that I am often in this situation, need to work on that). People are shoved into oncoming traffic all the time. Walk around and tell me the percentage of people you see with their heads buried in their phones and honestly ask yourself "Do I do that sometimes?". We should be scanning our vicinity and know what's coming toward us and what's behind us and next to us. I bet even the most vigilant can improve upon this.
The victim of this attack wasn't expecting to be shoved in front of a train and he shouldn't have to worry about attacks upon his person when he clearly is minding his own business. Shouldn't have to, but that's not the world we live in today. The previous attack on the woman being set on fire shouldn't have happened either. The reports said she had dozed off. If she was awake I posit that that shitbag would have had a more difficult time doing it.
Definitely not blaming the victims of these heinous crimes just pointing out the lessons on being more vigilant that their attacks can teach us and food for thought to use in our daily movements.
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At the edge of the NYC subway platforms is a 4" rubbing board, then a 2' wide yellow tactile panel. It looks like he had at least 1 foot off of the tactile so he was roughly 2-3' from the edge.
 
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