New bill bans pistol sales unless they can microstamp their bullets

[@thewheels]

I'll bet that's what they said in California

We would have said the same thing in NY about safe if we had heard/read anything about it before it was passed.

 

[meketrefe]

A new kind of logic, like...

2+2=5

 

[Vinson57]

Brown’s measure, entered as HR 3458, prohibits FFLs from manufacturing, selling, or transferring semi-auto handguns, unless they are capable of microstamping ammunition.

Just made the guns you own worthless

How could that be if they still shoot and you have ammo? They have value and the value goes up.

Additionally, why would anyone have guns they do not want?

The gist of the transfer restrictions is if microstamping is to work at all, they have to ban by ending acquisition and also transfer of legacy models. This little one sentence of the restriction on legacy transfer is easily overlooked I'm most bills because of the failed educational system has produced poor paragraph comprehension by the masses and also not the main point in fake news on this subject.

Someone submits the bill every year now in Albany and when the Senate goes back to full demorat (c left out), there you go. Hope you like your present collection of legacy semi-auto pistols?

In the seeding the devil category, they then (can any pull a new idea out of their ass?), decide, for CCW, it has to be a microstamping model and no more revolvers either. You permit gets marked accordingly. all required to go to a NYSP facility for some test firing. I even bet they find out that some ammo does better than others here. Then then say what you can have and not have along with no reloaded steel cases and coated bullets that resists the stamps.

If you are confused here, they "the dumb ass feminized mircostamp technology engineers (why else they working on this?) would want to apply redundancy by achieving the ID to the casing and the bullet as they do get separated so look for primer stamp, casing stamp and bullet stamp.

This technology only grows if mandated into use by law.

Its why we need to stand and fight.

 

[Target]

In the movie " Judge Dredd " , the pistol ties the projectile to the shooters DNA .
Lets pass a law making that mandatory.


That will make the Antis feel like they're making a difference.
It does not matter that the technology does not exist.
For that matter, why don't we arm cops with phazers set to "stun" . Hell , Kirk and Spock had them 40 yrs ago.

 

[stuck in ny]

Shoot the first person in the head who tries to enforce this, spray them with bumfire while they hang swinging from a gas station like ol' benny duce.

 

[pramaglia]

Wait until a criminal picks up someone's brass at the range and reloads the previously marked case to use in a crime.

Exactly what I said in a previous post. All a criminal needs to do is pick up some used microstamped brass from any rifle range and just drop it as he leaves the scene of a crime. He takes his brass away with him and leaves someone elses brass behind. If he uses a revolver he doesn't even need to pick up his brass, It is still inside his gun.

 

[Smoke Jensen]

New bill bans pistol sales unless they can microstamp their bullets
A dozen House Democrats are backing a measure mandating pistols sold by licensed dealers be capable of stamping a code on their ammunition at firing.

Introduced as the Make Identifiable Criminal Rounds Obvious (MICRO) Act last month, the proposal would strip the ability of federal firearms licensees to sell pistols that do not carry the controversial microstamping technology. Backers argue that as much as 40 percent of murders go unsolved due to lack of evidence, which the bill is meant to address.

“We must do everything we can to ensure gun violence can be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” said the bill’s author, U.S. Rep. Anthony Brown, D-Md., in a statement. “Microstamping offers law enforcement the chance to track bullet casings to the source of the crime, and is one more step we can take to ensure the safety of the American people.”
Brown’s measure, entered as HR 3458, prohibits FFLs from manufacturing, selling, or transferring semi-auto handguns, unless they are capable of microstamping ammunition. Though California adopted a microstamping requirement as part of their 2007 unsafe handgun modification requirements, implementation was delayed until 2013 when California Attorney General Kamala Harris announced the technology had passed hurdles that kept it from being viable.

This resulted in a lawsuit brought in 2014 by the National Shooting Sports Foundation and the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, who insisted the legal requirement for semi-auto handguns to mark cartridges with a microscopic array of characters, that identify the make, model and serial number of the pistol upon firing was, “impossible to accomplish.” The groups argued that the technology was unproven in actual field conditions and easy for criminals to defeat.

With the ongoing litigation in the hands of the California Supreme Court, and no semi-auto pistols using microstamping for sale by the state, the number of approved guns on the state’s handgun roster is shrinking. Eight years ago the number of guns on the roster stood at over 1,400. Today it holds 766 models, made up mostly of revolvers which are exempt from microstamping. This has lead gun rights groups to paint the mandate on the technology as an “incremental ban on firearms.”
New bill bans pistol sales unless they can microstamp their bullets - Guns.com

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, who authored similar legislation while he was in Congress in 2008, is standing behind the restriction.

Micro stamping doesn’t work

 

[Smoke Jensen]

New bill bans pistol sales unless they can microstamp their bullets
A dozen House Democrats are backing a measure mandating pistols sold by licensed dealers be capable of stamping a code on their ammunition at firing.

Introduced as the Make Identifiable Criminal Rounds Obvious (MICRO) Act last month, the proposal would strip the ability of federal firearms licensees to sell pistols that do not carry the controversial microstamping technology. Backers argue that as much as 40 percent of murders go unsolved due to lack of evidence, which the bill is meant to address.

“We must do everything we can to ensure gun violence can be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” said the bill’s author, U.S. Rep. Anthony Brown, D-Md., in a statement. “Microstamping offers law enforcement the chance to track bullet casings to the source of the crime, and is one more step we can take to ensure the safety of the American people.”
Brown’s measure, entered as HR 3458, prohibits FFLs from manufacturing, selling, or transferring semi-auto handguns, unless they are capable of microstamping ammunition. Though California adopted a microstamping requirement as part of their 2007 unsafe handgun modification requirements, implementation was delayed until 2013 when California Attorney General Kamala Harris announced the technology had passed hurdles that kept it from being viable.

This resulted in a lawsuit brought in 2014 by the National Shooting Sports Foundation and the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, who insisted the legal requirement for semi-auto handguns to mark cartridges with a microscopic array of characters, that identify the make, model and serial number of the pistol upon firing was, “impossible to accomplish.” The groups argued that the technology was unproven in actual field conditions and easy for criminals to defeat.

With the ongoing litigation in the hands of the California Supreme Court, and no semi-auto pistols using microstamping for sale by the state, the number of approved guns on the state’s handgun roster is shrinking. Eight years ago the number of guns on the roster stood at over 1,400. Today it holds 766 models, made up mostly of revolvers which are exempt from microstamping. This has lead gun rights groups to paint the mandate on the technology as an “incremental ban on firearms.”
New bill bans pistol sales unless they can microstamp their bullets - Guns.com

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, who authored similar legislation while he was in Congress in 2008, is standing behind the restriction.

Micro stamp all the “bullets” you want. When a “bullet” strikes a solid object it is ruined and that micro crap is gone.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Micro stamp all the “bullets” you want. When a “bullet” strikes a solid object it is ruined and that micro crap is gone.

It's the case that stamped.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Question of the day?

Will a micro stamped capable pistol be able to stamp it's marks on a steel cased cartridge with a berden primer?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Question of the day?

Will a micro stamped capable pistol be able to stamp it's marks on a steel cased cartridge with a berden primer?

Let's not forget how easy it is to buy an aftermarket firing pin, or barrel or any other part of a modern gun

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Can't stand the stupid acronyms they come up with for every pathetic bill.

They spend more brain power trying to be clever than they do writing laws.