New York State senator seeks law to ban hate crime offenders from owning guns

[Madmallard]

A Manhattan state senator wants to bar anyone who commits a hate crime from owning firearms.

Sen. Daniel Squadron (D-Manhattan) said the bill is needed as the number of hate crimes has climbed this year.

With the bulk of hate crime convictions falling under misdemeanor categories, a number of them are not covered under existing gun safety laws, Squadron aid.

Under current state law, a person can lose their rights to own a gun if they are convicted of a “serious offense.”

But many hate crime convictions fall under misdemeanor categories that are not covered by the “serious offense” stipulation, like spray painting a swastika on a synagogue wall, Squadron said.

His bill would include hate crime convictions as a "serious offense" that restricts access to firearms.

“As the politics of hatred and fear continue to fuel violence in our communities, it's urgent we help ensure safety,” he said.

Squadron quotes Center for American Progress stats showing that about 46,500 hate crimes between 2010 and 2015 involved the use or threatened use of a gun.

N.Y. pol wants to bar hate crime offenders from owning guns

 

[camper4lyfe]

I'm not quite sure how I feel about this. On one hand I agree, on the other, the twisted hate crimers are going to do what they want regardless so it's kind of pointless.

 

[Deplorable Me]

The Safe-Act is a hate crime against gun owners. Andy on numerous occasions has admitted he hates us.

 

[MoMan]

Here's my surprised face!!

Just what dictates a hate crime? I'm not o.k. with some arbitrary term deciding on someone's RTKB.

 

[Calculon]

On the surface this seems reasonable but it's just another gun grab. Who determines what is the definition of a hate crime? Is it a conviction or an accusation that strips you of your constitutional rights?

This squishy feel good legislation always gets my guard up - when partisan bureaucrats make the rules it's bad for freedom.

 

[Marine Cpl]

This is stupid. If you are threat to society, then you shouldn't be allowed to roam free. What do guns have to do with it. Will that same racist person who now can not get guns due to this legislation use a bat or a knife? Can he buy a gun from the street?

If he or she is so dangerous, why is he or she allowed to remain in society?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Squadron. Nuff said.

 

[wirehairfan]

they keep saying how voting for Trump was a hate crime ....

 

[soylentBlue]

I've heard that calling someone by the wrong gender should be a hate crime - and gender can change from day to day - so good luck getting it right every time.

 

[carpediem]

They will then classify everything a hate crime. These laws are designed specifically TO be abused. With NY under perpetual progressive rule, you can bet your ass the things classified as hate crimes will explode in number. So will people being barred firearms ownership. It is all a deceitful means to an unconstitutional end. There hasn't been a huge increase in hate crimes. There has been a huge increase in false reports of hate crimes. Two of those criminals are on trial right now in Smallbany.

 

[Catskillkid]

Another law ripe for abuse. Anything and everything in this brave new world of ours is a hate crime. We're all criminals in the eyes of the state and should be subjugated to its rule. I'm sorry but freedom of speech trumps anybody's feelings. Spray painting a swastika on a synagogue, while certainly offensive, should be tried under private property vandalism and nothing more. Same goes for any other offense. If a fight breaks out between a Christian and Muslim (or insert any type of religion, race, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc.) charge them on assault and not some imagined issue of "hate." Hate is a nebulous word in and of itself and legislating it will just lead to abuse and sequestration of rights.

 

[MoMan]

So just so I understand this correctly; If someone is a "hate crimer" (for lack of a better term!! Just as stupid if ya ask me!!), and they can't buy a gun, everything will be all honky-dory! I'm sure because they can't get a gun, they would never stoop to burning a building with a meeting going on, or pipe bomb a playground with certain kids in it, or drive a vehicle through a parade or carnival. I'm glad they would take care of all that with their proposed fucked up law!!

Step away from the; !!

 

[Saltwater60]

I'm not quite sure how I feel about this. On one hand I agree, on the other, the twisted hate crimers are going to do what they want regardless so it's kind of pointless.

My problem is I write today I do t trust muslims and tomorrow that's a hate crime. They come take my guns. Also you paint anything other than a swastika it's criminal mischief. Could just be some kid being a dumbass.