Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
so much for asthma .. pollen dump
my cosine had asthma issues with fresh cut grass .. ban mowing ..
No More Heating With Firewood In New York?
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so much for asthma .. pollen dump
my cosine had asthma issues with fresh cut grass .. ban mowing ..
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
If they push me and piss me off enough I’ll find a way to burn shit and produce my carbon anyway. I’m normally very level headed, but if you push me enough I’m a Vindictive bastard and I’ll get even one way or another.
I just put a patio in and I won’t stop having backyard fires. I have land and I’ll produce my own firewood if need be. Farmers burn a lot of wood when they clear land or trim trees.
I just put a patio in and I won’t stop having backyard fires. I have land and I’ll produce my own firewood if need be. Farmers burn a lot of wood when they clear land or trim trees.
pshift
.338 Win Mag
Apparently, there will be no ban in effect. See the below article for details.
www.whec.com
Fact Check: No more firewood in New York?
As the temperatures drop a lot of us turn up the heat!
www.whec.com
skywarner
9mm
it’s time for all patriotic New Yorkers to behave as vindictive bastards. We’re otherwise running out of boxes.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
My wife just heard about this somewhere, and is kind of angry about it. There are only 3 things she still wants to do to this house, and a wood stove is one of them. She is putting pressure on me now, to move out of NY.
I don't have the heart to tell her it looks like stoves aren't getting banned.
I don't have the heart to tell her it looks like stoves aren't getting banned.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Not being rude so don’t take this as that please. This is not an outright ban on burning wood, but it gives them powers to regulate carbon emissions essentially open endidly. They can and will be able to essentially do as they see fit to meet the carbon emissions goals in NYS.Apparently, there will be no ban in effect. See the below article for details.
Fact Check: No more firewood in New York?
As the temperatures drop a lot of us turn up the heat!
here are some direct quotes from the article and you need to read through the politicianize and know what’s coming.
They want a reduction in wood burning and maybe not by banning wood, but increasing electric heating and insulation. They also say it’s not on the agenda right now, but if that’s what they need to do to meet their goals they will do so. Right now it seems to be directed at industrial wood burning so that will increase your costs. There’s a large greenhouse by me that uses chipped wood as heat and they use that for a reason, it’s cheaper.
However, Haley Viccaro, a DEC spokesperson, says that 40% decrease in wood consumption is driven by building and device efficiency and increases in electrification of primary heating across all fuel types over time.
"Additionally, the analysis remains consistent across scenarios as to the contribution of remaining high-efficiency, low-emissions wood burning (for example, wood use for primary and secondary heating or industrial use) as well as some recreational wood combustion," Viccaro said.
In layman's terms, the plan right now does not include any recommendations specifically about wood burning. Viccaro wants to make it clear, the state is not considering legislation that would ban heating your home with firewood.
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
Yet.
Her concern is still valid.
If you live in a shitty neighborhood, and hear gang bangers fighting every night outside your house, you don't say "we don't need to move, they haven't killed anyone yet".
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Already read another article about the city going after woodstoves in the Adk and North Country. This whole thing is just the beginning, they may not do anything this year but it is coming unless NYC falls in the next election.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
FUK’M. FUNYC. FUKH. FUDems. Will not comply. Wood burner works fine, and is sustainable energy.
jimc
.223 Rem
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
That's not a survey. Its a sign-up sheet for propaganda and fundraising solicitations.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Maybe I burned a couple of hundred pounds of wood during this period.
Seeing this notice showing an 18% lower consumption than my efficient neighbors I think I figured out the corporate sponsors of this bill.
Con U Ed, National Greed, NY Screw Everyone Good.
On the back side it shows I used less fossil fuel than last year, isn’t that suppoosed to be good? Use a renewable to use less fossil, right?
As I sit in front of my wood stove this chilly morning.
Seeing this notice showing an 18% lower consumption than my efficient neighbors I think I figured out the corporate sponsors of this bill.
Con U Ed, National Greed, NY Screw Everyone Good.
On the back side it shows I used less fossil fuel than last year, isn’t that suppoosed to be good? Use a renewable to use less fossil, right?
As I sit in front of my wood stove this chilly morning.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
And CA wants to make people yank PV's off their roof.Maybe I burned a couple of hundred pounds of wood during this period.
Seeing this notice showing an 18% lower consumption than my efficient neighbors I think I figured out the corporate sponsors of this bill.
Con U Ed, National Greed, NY Screw Everyone Good.
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On the back side it shows I used less fossil fuel than last year, isn’t that suppoosed to be good? Use a renewable to use less fossil, right?
As I sit in front of my wood stove this chilly morning.
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Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Good for you all I do is get bitched at and they say I use like 200% more than mu closest neighbors. They should look at their homes since my house could eat both of their and still have room for dessert so no shit I use more energy.Maybe I burned a couple of hundred pounds of wood during this period.
Seeing this notice showing an 18% lower consumption than my efficient neighbors I think I figured out the corporate sponsors of this bill.
Con U Ed, National Greed, NY Screw Everyone Good.
View attachment 143490
On the back side it shows I used less fossil fuel than last year, isn’t that suppoosed to be good? Use a renewable to use less fossil, right?
As I sit in front of my wood stove this chilly morning.
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96coal449
.308 Win
Laughing because I'm at 4500sqft, wood heat only. Fuck you national greed.
Now I'll be working on producing my own electricity. Hopefully have something to at least supplement that by fall.
Yup, FUCK YOU NG.
jimc
.223 Rem
I guess the people at Popular Science magazine have turned into the same hipster douchebags as Popular Mechanics.
www.popsci.com
An EPA fix for pollution-spewing wood stoves is backfiring
As health experts unravel the harmful effects of air pollution from wood stoves and woodsmoke, local officials and the EPA are testing replacement heating devices.
www.popsci.com
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I’ll do as I please. I’ll burn more wood this year than I ever have. Fuck em.
I guess the people at Popular Science magazine have turned into the same hipster douchebags as Popular Mechanics.
An EPA fix for pollution-spewing wood stoves is backfiring
As health experts unravel the harmful effects of air pollution from wood stoves and woodsmoke, local officials and the EPA are testing replacement heating devices.
No need to read.
She moved into her "dream" home only to discover all her neighbors run woodstove and the chimneys dump in her house.
She asked them to stop burning wood, but no they just continued polluting to spite her.
Even the restaurant down the street burns wood and it too has its chimney dumping toxic fumes into her house.
Ten years later, her dream shattered, she doesn't know what to do.
96coal449
.308 Win
Her head's so far up her ass, it serves as a respirator.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Again, see what a little wood burning will do for you!! Was only burning when it was 20F or colder.
Have used up all the stacked wood in the garage need to split more but have time.
I think this is pretty effin good data!!
Edit: That monthly bill cost me $154
Have used up all the stacked wood in the garage need to split more but have time.
I think this is pretty effin good data!!
Edit: That monthly bill cost me $154
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BerettaGuy
.308 Win
NY state climate leadership and protection Act or NYS C.L.A.P. ACT. If you screw up, you will get a CLAP case.I gave it a once over. Like I said, its super dense and not to the point.
NY State Senate Bill 2019-S6599
Enacts the New York state climate leadership and community protection act; relates to climate change; renewable energy program; labor and job standards and worker protection.www.nysenate.gov
Officer, what led you to arrest this family of mouthbreathing redneck knuckledraggers? I was driving down the road and smelt the odor of burning Cherry Wood. Then I followed my nose to the defendant's residence where I could observe soft grey smoke wafting from his chimney. At that point, I called for backup. The SWAT Team arrived and we surrounded the house. This led to a standoff and finally the suspect and his family surrendered. We dosed the fire with water and saved "MOTHER EARTH".
DON'T GET A CASE OF CLAP!
96coal449
.308 Win
The suspect and his family would not surrender. The suspects door was broken down upon our entering. We shot the families 2 dogs and then all hell broke loose. We were fired upon multiple times. Four militarized policemen (aka SWAT), lost their lives in the retreat. We called for more back up as the frailly held defensive positions. The county sheriff did not respond. He was busy cleaning off shoe polish. More SWAT agents were fired upon during our second advance. Several more wounded agents forced us a second retreat. In the aftermath, the entire family was consumed by a fire sparked off by agents trying to gain the upper hand in entering the residence. The tree of liberty was finally watered with blood that evening.
All for a family who just wanted to heat their home AND BE LEFT ALONE.
FIFY
Tar and feather. Should have instant results.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Funny I get the opposite and I feel proud of that.Again, see what a little wood burning will do for you!! Was only burning when it was 20F or colder.
Have used up all the stacked wood in the garage need to split more but have time.
I think this is pretty effin good data!!
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Edit: That monthly bill cost me $154
Bustedknees
.308 Win
I'm saving last months statement so I can compare it to my newly kid free home. My beer is lasting longer too.Again, see what a little wood burning will do for you!! Was only burning when it was 20F or colder.
Have used up all the stacked wood in the garage need to split more but have time.
I think this is pretty effin good data!!
View attachment 151137
Edit: That monthly bill cost me $154
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
My utility keeps trying to scold and shame me for higher usage than my comparable neighbors, who happen to live in homes of 1600 fewer square feet. They're not even competent at whining.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
right now, im outside Yuma Az. its 88° freak'n degrees outside. Its a dry heat my ass. My TWO 13.5K Btu a/c, trying to cool off 400ft², have not turned off in 7 hours. Good thing its part of the camp ground package. 
Next week we are going to a higher elevation and cooler weather, Thank the lord
Next week we are going to a higher elevation and cooler weather, Thank the lord
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
It was only 77 here today. With a nice breeze. Currently sitting out inhaling the smoke from others campfires.
Been hearing an ad on the radio for a local company selling outdoor wood boilers. Stating a 26% tax credit for them.
Been hearing an ad on the radio for a local company selling outdoor wood boilers. Stating a 26% tax credit for them.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
My brother in Binghamton finished the inside work for his wood stove
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
It was 63F and sunny today at camp in Annsville before the rain. Thunder and lightning with rain at the moment here in the Cuse.