NYC threatens up to $250G in fines for using terms like 'illegal alien

[pramaglia]

Isn't this special. NY City just took away your first amendment right to free speech. So now NY CIty has taken away your 1st amendment right to free speech, your 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms and your 4th amendment protection from unreasonable searches and seizures. What's next?
NYC threatens up to $250G in fines for using terms like 'illegal alien,' threatening to call ICE

 

[Jezman]

They are so funny it is sad

 

[E the massive]

Wandering Dago

 

[Steal2B]

Hey look, there is an illegal alien ... better call ICE.

Hey look, there is an illegal alien ... better call ICE.

Hey look, there is an illegal alien ... better call ICE.

Hey look, there is an illegal alien ... better call ICE.

So that's what a million dollar post looks like.

 

[E the massive]

Misleading headline. Read the link.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[libertysnake]

This is the similar game they like to play with gun owners. "We will only prosecute _________ when [highly relative statement about "conspicuous" grips protruding, etc]"

By leaving it vague as fuck they can choose to enforce selectively. It's more a scare tactic to prevent anyone from speaking up, at all, then it would actually be enforced.

It may even fit the definition of Terrorism as well, since the goal is clearly to intimidate people from taking lawful acts of reporting illegal aliens who are illegally staying in the country.

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

-- Definition

 

[GOPerfect]

Makes me almost want to make a road trip to that shithole just so I can people this illegal term.

 

[Saltwater60]

Misleading headline. Read the link.

How is it misleading? It literally says if you say illegal alien, calling ice, or mocking some one for broken English you will be fined if it is in a discriminatory manner.

 

[spat]

We need to have a parade, complete with "illegal aliens go home, we are calling ICE" banners.

We can chant "what part of illegal don't you understand".

It should run right in front of the NY times building.

 

[Steal2B]

"Fines of up to $250,000 can be assessed for each act of willful discrimination, and damages are available to complainants," the city said.

Sounds like "the city" wanted to create a new revenue stream to share with illegal aliens by rewarding fake trumped up accusations and charges. It's always about money, control, and power.

 

[Blimey]

Harassing people is already illegal. Harassing a stranger with this term or without it one can certainly be convicted of a crime. However, if NYC thinks it's going to charge somebody for using this term while having a debate/ on the news, etc. they will be shut down very quickly.

If somebody goes into a store and the person's english sucks and the other party threatens to call ICE I think NYC is going to have a mighty hard time convicting.

Thankfully we are not Canada, so so-called human rights commissions are kept well in check by the 1st. The US is one of the last nations with freedom of speech. Most of Europe has already abandoned it, when they implemented hate speech laws.

 

[Blimey]

This topic triggers me in general. I don't understand why the rest of the West doesn't understand that freedom of speech literally is the ability to conduct "hate speech". You cannot have one and prohibit the other. This is why Canada, England, Germany, etc. all have no freedom of speech.

Hate speech in the United States - Wikipedia

Hate speech in the United States is not regulated, in contrast to that of most other liberal democracies.[1] The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that hate speech is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment. The most recent Supreme Court case on the issue was in 2017, when the justices unanimously reaffirmed that there is effectively no "hate speech" exception to the free speech rights protected by the First Amendment.

This is great stuff right here. All of the justices are still on board with what the 1st means. As long as they all stay on board, we're in decent shape. When this starts to crack we have a problem.

 

[GOYABEAN]

The problem as I see it a handful of sanctuary city's are making laws while the other 43 roughly state's still believe in the 1st

 

[E the massive]

How is it misleading? It literally says if you say illegal alien, calling ice, or mocking some one for broken English you will be fined if it is in a discriminatory manner.

From what I get from the article it is for employees of NYC public housing. The headline should read "Socialists get Socialism".

 

[That_FNG]

Islam is right about illegal aliens

 

[Robin]

The face of New York City. Soon to be renamed deBlazengrad.
Robin

 

[meketrefe]

They are trying to reinvent the English language.

Alien | law

 

[Mr. terzmo]

illegals are more important than law abiding citizens

 

[Saltwater60]

From what I get from the article it is for employees of NYC public housing. The headline should read "Socialists get Socialism".

It says residents. I take that as residents on NYC not the housing complex employees. It’s for everyone in NYC.

 

[Phauxtoe]

We need to have a parade, complete with "illegal aliens go home, we are calling ICE" banners.

We can chant "what part of illegal don't you understand".

It should run right in front of the NY times building.

count me in!

 

[Toecutter]

Now they want to violate the 1st and 8th amendment . Must be taking a break from fucking with the 2nd 4th and 14th. Politicians don't follow the law and police wont protect us from the politicians . No one gives a shit about thier oath or our Constitution.