Out of state PP recert. Am I seeing this right?

[gun_slinger_boy]

This stemmed from this thread. Pistol permit law I figured I would just see if I could recertify my permit from out of state for shits and giggles. I was quite certain they would deny it. I was reading another thread this morning and it reminded me that I could check on the status. Once again for shits and giggles I went to see if they got anything and wondered how they could even track it being that I had to send in a hard copy of the application. I sent it in Dec 22 and well this is what I see today. Am I waiting for something in the mail or?

*redacted for OPSEC

 

[fartgamer]

I don’t have a NYS DL or ID, but was told by the county clerk my permit could be kept even though I live OOS.
The NYSP site will not take my info without either a DL or ID.

Maybe I need to enter my NCDL number?

 

[Criticalt]

Thats exactly what I got when recertifying my permit. I currently live in NYS.
So looks good too me.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I don’t have a NYS DL or ID, but was told by the county clerk my permit could be kept even though I live OOS.
The NYSP site will not take my info without either a DL or ID.

On the site it says that if you don't have a NY DL/ID you can use your out of state DL which is what I did. I'm just shocked that it only took 2 days for this to be reviewed but there are people that did it electronically and have been waiting for months. At least I think it was reviewed. Can anyone confirm that this is recertified? If so am I waiting for some type of letter or a new permit?

 

[fartgamer]

On the site it says that if you don't have a NY DL/ID you can use your out of state DL which is what I did. I'm just shocked that it only took 2 days for this to be reviewed but there are people that did it electronically and have been waiting for months. At least I think it was reviewed. Can anyone confirm that this is recertified? If so am I waiting for some type of letter or a new permit?

I need to look at my paperwork, I may have entered my NCDL info.

I was told by the people who work in the clerks office that he was fine with me keeping my NY permit. He , the clerk, consulted with the judge, so that’s fine with me. I just don’t want to get stopped by a NYS trooper someday and get jammed up.

NC plate? The first question may be “ do you have any firearms in the vehicle?”

Me “ why yes, every vehicle in NC has a firearm in it” LOL

 

[fartgamer]

Just checked with my NCDL, shows recertified, next recert 1/31/2023

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

@Criticalt
How long ago was your recert? Did you get a new permit with expiration date on it? That seems only logical but then again it's NY.

 

[Criticalt]

@Criticalt
How long ago was your recert? Did you get a new permit with expiration date on it? That seems only logical but then again it's NY.

Just a few weeks ago.
Talking to the lady in the pp office, she said you get no new permit or anything in the mail.
You are on your own to keep track.
The state wants you to forget.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Just a few weeks ago.
Talking to the lady in the pp office, she said you get no new permit or anything in the mail.
You are on your own to keep track.
The state wants you to forget.

I see. I'm more worried about getting interrogated than forgetting when to recertify. Firstly I can see being out of state a cop thinking I can't even have a permit. But then if they know you can have one out of state they may think that you just never recertified. Then the jam up. And before anyone says just don't get caught or what are the chances, know that I have legitimate concern for this scenario. I've been confronted twice about my gun and both times control was taken of the gun. One was a bogus traffic stop where the cop claimed I was smoking weed.

 

[fartgamer]

A good reason I don’t bother to carry in NY. I might run into a zealous cop and though completely legal may have to spend $$$’s to get out of a jam.
I don’t have time to pursue a lawsuit, just want to get back home to a gun friendly state.
I’ll keep my permit just to say I have one, I won’t ever move back.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm assuming that as long as your NYS permit reflects your new out of state address you are good to go.

Your County clerk will have to issue you a new permit with the updated address. If they don't, it may still not be valid since Penal Law 400 states that you have 10 days to inform them of your change of address.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I'm assuming that as long as your NYS permit reflects your new out of state address you are good to go.

Your County clerk will have to issue you a new permit with the updated address. If they don't, it may still not be valid since Penal Law 400 states that you have 10 days to inform them of your change of address.

I guess I'll call them tomorrow and see what they say.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

My question would be once living out of NY, and keeping your NYS PP, does NY still have the power to turn you into a prohibited person by revoking your permit? If so, I see absolutely no reason to keep your NYS PP once out. Why continue to give them that power over you? You might as well have just stayed.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

My question would be once living out of NY, and keeping your NYS PP, does NY still have the power to turn you into a prohibited person by revoking your permit? If so, I see absolutely no reason to keep your NYS PP once out. Why continue to give them that power over you? You might as well have just stayed.

How does NY simply revoking your permit turn you into a prohibited person?

Identify Prohibited Persons | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

 

[ArmedCorgi]

How does NY simply revoking your permit turn you into a prohibited person?

Identify Prohibited Persons | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Well, school me on it because that was my impression. They now take all your guns if they revoke your permit. Maybe it depends on the circumstances of the revocation, but that is the impression I am under. They take your permit and guns and you are put on the no no list.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Well, school me on it because that was my impression. They now take all your guns if they revoke your permit. Maybe it depends on the circumstances of the revocation, but that is the impression I am under. They take your permit and guns and you are put on the no no list.

If you commit one of the crimes in the link. As we know NY has been know to revoke permits and confiscate guns for invalid reasons. So without actually committing said crimes and being convicted you wouldn't be a prohibited person.

 

[Marine Cpl]

They can't charge you for anything if you are out of state and commit one of those crimes on the list for example. And if they revoke your permit, they can't go to NC to confiscate your arms. They have no jurisdiction.

 

[fartgamer]

NC takes no orders from Cumquat or the NYSP, thankfully.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

I guess I'll call them tomorrow and see what they say.

Do not call. Keep that printed copy.

That is exactly what i got. Nothing further. 6-12 months ago. Even my permit has not been changed. I told teh PP office i did not want to pay the money for the new “credit card” permit. (I have my original paper license from 1990 ish. ). They said no problem. I have the new fredit card gun card but not the actual license!

Ha ha ha.

Yoy are as compliant as i am.

 

[MoMan]

I kicked around the idea of re-certing my NYSPP as an out of state permit. After thinking about it, I decided it is not worth it to me. I understand it doesn't cost anything to do it, BUT (and this is a big BUT!!!), right now no one knows where any of my guns reside. Like I've mentioned before, down here we can transfer firearms back and forth without any documentation. While I realize NYS has no jurisdiction down here, the feds do. I'm not giving any information I don't have to. Like I said, as much as I would like to be able to CC when I'm in town, it really isn't worth it for me.

Besides, 99 out of 100 times I am out and about up there, it is with someone who can legally CC, so I don't feel too vulnerable. UNLESS my Son, or 1 of my Buddies gets really pissed at me. BUT, that'll never happen, because as you all know, .... I'm a real peach!!!

 

[fartgamer]

I kicked around the idea of re-certing my NYSPP as an out of state permit. After thinking about it, I decided it is not worth it to me. I understand it doesn't cost anything to do it, BUT (and this is a big BUT!!!), right now no one knows where any of my guns reside. Like I've mentioned before, down here we can transfer firearms back and forth without any documentation. While I realize NYS has no jurisdiction down here, the feds do. I'm not giving any information I don't have to. Like I said, as much as I would like to be able to CC when I'm in town, it really isn't worth it for me.

Besides, 99 out of 100 times I am out and about up there, it is with someone who can legally CC, so I don't feel too vulnerable. UNLESS my Son, or 1 of my Buddies gets really pissed at me. BUT, that'll never happen, because as you all know, .... I'm a real peach!!!

In NC you can do private sales also. Long gun need just a DL. Handguns require the buyer to have a CHP or a paper permit called Pistol Purchase Permit, issued by the Sheriff @$5 a pop.
No other paperwork required.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Do not call. Keep that printed copy.

That is exactly what i got. Nothing further. 6-12 months ago. Even my permit has not been changed. I told teh PP office i did not want to pay the money for the new “credit card” permit. (I have my original paper license from 1990 ish. ). They said no problem. I have the new fredit card gun card but not the actual license!

Ha ha ha.

Yoy are as compliant as i am.

I don't go that far back lol. My license is the plastic kind. I was just wondering if we are supposed to get one with an expiration date.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

I don't go that far back lol. My license is the plastic kind. I was just wondering if we are supposed to get one with an expiration date.

I do nit have one. So no.

The state police do not issue permits. The county does. I think my county asked if i had done it (when i was adding) i ahowed them that letter that you got. That was it.