Polymer80 raided yesterday (12/10/20) by JBT

[drowhawk]

The GOP may have had a majority, but conservatives never did.

There are some Democrats I would vote for before some of the Republicans you are counting in that majority.

This has been my gripe since day 1. GOP is NOT conservative. If you are a conservative and you support the GOP, you need to buy a calculator. Make sure it can go to 14 digits.

I'll give him some credit on the middle east peace deals. That is pretty awesome and I'm humble enough to admit that he is not all bad. But he is NOT pro-2A and I am firm on that stance. After all, that is the discussion at hand.

 

[spat]

This has been my gripe since day 1. GOP is NOT conservative. If you are a conservative and you support the GOP, you need to buy a calculator. Make sure it can go to 14 digits.

I'll give him some credit on the middle east peace deals. That is pretty awesome and I'm humble enough to admit that he is not all bad. But he is NOT pro-2A and I am firm on that stance. After all, that is the discussion at hand.

He may not be as pro 2A as I want, but he was by far the most pro 2A choice in the last election.

Jo may have a more pro 2A platform, but she is (even if she won) impotent to implement it. So Trump was better.

 

[Acer-m14]

ATF and the Uranium Deal .. Crickets .. lol

 

[Acer-m14]

i need a job at home depot to make plumbing kits for slamfire fun lol

 

[BDinPutnam]

Are you sure the definition was not already in place? In place for many years prior to Trump? Just trying to get my facts straight.

Skipping the other three pages of the thread so if I missed something too bad but wanted to respond.

He directed them to classify bump stocks as machine guns, via an Executive Memorandum (which is somewhat like an Executive Order). Don't have time / space to get the text of it but it is out there. He told them to make it so.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[spat]

Skipping the other three pages of the thread so if I missed something too bad but wanted to respond.

He directed them to classify bump stocks as machine guns, via an Executive Memorandum (which is somewhat like an Executive Order). Don't have time / space to get the text of it but it is out there. He told them to make it so.

And Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.

He was still one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had and we all owe him an irreparable debt.

 

[Justincase]

Skipping the other three pages of the thread so if I missed something too bad but wanted to respond.

He directed them to classify bump stocks as machine guns, via an Executive Memorandum (which is somewhat like an Executive Order). Don't have time / space to get the text of it but it is out there. He told them to make it so.

From what I understand, the ATF was 100% going to deem something, anything, illegal after Vegas, and Trump decided to throw bump stocks under the bus because what they initially wanted was to use a vague definition of anything that could increase the rate of fire, and ban anything that applied to. He did us a favor

 

[maverick52]

I wonder if “others” are next in their list

 

[Thomas]

From what I understand, the ATF was 100% going to deem something, anything, illegal after Vegas, and Trump decided to throw bump stocks under the bus because what they initially wanted was to use a vague definition of anything that could increase the rate of fire, and ban anything that applied to. He did us a favor

We have our binary triggers. For now.

 

[BDinPutnam]

And Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.

He was still one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had and we all owe him an irreparable debt.

Comparing Trump to Jefferson is like comparing getting a reach around to getting a blow job.

 

[S&W Fan]

The ATF have been Jack booted thugs for decades under every president. To think that they would be Any different under an Independent, Libertarian, conservative Or Gumby for president is sadly laughable.

Unfortunately there was only one candidate that pledged to do this and you all think it's "wasting your vote."

This is TRUMP'S ATF.

 

[Grimscale]

Are Bump stocks a protected thing?

Avoiding the multiple pages of useless infighting...


Yes, I believe that Bump Stocks are covered under the 2A, as is anything else that can be used by a militia in the defense of our Country.
Yes, they are not as effective as a true full-auto; they have crappy accuracy, etc., but accuracy and efficiency were never a criteria for "arms".

But my belief is not what is considered as to whether or not a device is protected.
Half our problems stem from having to ask the very same government, who seeks to disarm us, what the definition of "arms" is. Little by little they keep changing that definition to further restrict what we can own. Little by little they charge us a fee (tax stamps, etc.) to exercise our Right.
That we sit still while the Supreme Court claims background checks, delays, taxes, fees, etc., are ok on the 2A, but an unConstitutional burden on any other Right, is frustrating.

 

[Bob]

We have our binary triggers. For now.

Federally, perhaps. NYS has banned them though.

 

[GOPerfect]

Avoiding the multiple pages of useless infighting...


Yes, I believe that Bump Stocks are covered under the 2A, as is anything else that can be used by a militia in the defense of our Country.
Yes, they are not as effective as a true full-auto; they have crappy accuracy, etc., but accuracy and efficiency were never a criteria for "arms".

But my belief is not what is considered as to whether or not a device is protected.
Half our problems stem from having to ask the very same government, who seeks to disarm us, what the definition of "arms" is. Little by little they keep changing that definition to further restrict what we can own. Little by little they charge us a fee (tax stamps, etc.) to exercise our Right.
That we sit still while the Supreme Court claims background checks, delays, taxes, fees, etc., are ok on the 2A, but an unConstitutional burden on any other Right, is frustrating.

Okay....

You are definitely on the same track as I am, different lane but same track.

 

[Dr. Evil]

ATF Visiting End Users; Requesting Forfeiture Of Polymer80 Kits

GHOSTED: ATF Visiting End Users; Requesting Forfeiture Of Polymer80 Kits - This morning, an anonymous TFB reader provide additional information pointing to the ATF visiting end users and are requesting the forfeiture of certain Polymer80 kits.

www.thefirearmblog.com

 

[1075tech]

ATF Visiting End Users; Requesting Forfeiture Of Polymer80 Kits

GHOSTED: ATF Visiting End Users; Requesting Forfeiture Of Polymer80 Kits - This morning, an anonymous TFB reader provide additional information pointing to the ATF visiting end users and are requesting the forfeiture of certain Polymer80 kits.

www.thefirearmblog.com

Damn mailbox fire. Never did get a replacement.

 

[WillyK]

Have there been any more end user visits or is the one above the only known one that we know of?

 

[Robin]

Mebby they should go for the device the endusers have that enabled them to place those orders in the first place, yeah thats the ticket!!!!!! Just like USSR did with typewriters!
Robin

 

[Bob]

Damn mailbox fire. Never did get a replacement.

Shit, the way USPS has been running for the last couple of weeks, you can say that you never received it. The number of packages I have in transit going back as much as three weeks is absolutely stunning.

 

[S&W Fan]

A warning to firearms businesses , be careful who you set up to do business with
Stamps.com & Authorize.net Rat-Out Polymer80's Customers, ATF Raid Reason ~ VIDEO

 

[dsdmmat]

This has much wider implications. There are a bunch of websites which sell the complete rifle kits with an 80% lower. If you bought one of those on the web be prepared to get a visit from the ATF.