Positive Experience with NYS Trooper

[Jmac00]

Sounds like a good encounter all the way around.

I get why an average LEO might dislike citizens carrying. Their perception of most are shined in a negative light due to the nature of their work. I think as the average LEO has more and more positive encounters with the average carrying citizen that mindset changes.

I wonder how many encounters the typical LEO has in their career with one of us.

probably a lot, seeing as your Drivers license is tied to the registration of your vehicle, they already know if you are a gun owner before they get to your car

 

[Jmac00]

every encounter I have had with a Trooper has always been pleasent and cordial ~~~ except for the part where I still got a ticket.

Heck, one trooper and I had a nice 45 minute conversation on hunting the Adirondacks. real nice guy. still got an 1180D, but not a big deal.

 

[Saltwater60]

Most cops want civilians carrying from what I know. I know a lot of cops. Most my friends and family members are cops.
I know some one who assisted a trooper on the side of the highway. Guy was fighting with the cop on the ground. He was a corrections guard and he ran a crossed the highway and kicked the dude wrestling with the cop in the face. I’d do the same and most cops know ccw holders would do the same.

A parkmpoloce officer I know threatened to arrest a reservation cop because he was going to take a pistol permit carriers gun away. He said your not a cop and you do t have a pistol permit if you touch his gun I’ll arrest you for illegal possession. That ended that right there. I’m sure the guy was looking tompocket the gun.

 

[Saltwater60]

I had read a thread on here recently where people were talking about leo experieces and thought I'd share mine.

Last night on way home got pulled over by a trooper. He walked up a little behind door asked if I had any knives or dangerous weapons; Said No Sir.......then asked for my license...told where it was and ok if I got it...asked question again about weapons, happened to say "No sir, not carrying tonight...." to which he asked if I had a PP and I said Yes and he gave me the thumbs up and said "GOOD, what I like to see...but doing ya no good if your not carrying...... "

Now this caught me off guard as I've heard many a LEO does not like avg joe having PP's....In fact when I took my safety class the officer/teacher said to all of us as a matter of fact first thing that he didnt think ANY of us should have a weapon.......or had a need for one. (in his opinion- he thought it was a bad mix..weapons and civilians) Also I had the Po Po called on us sorta a couple years ago when someone on our road called for report of Gunshots...now we in the country(honeoye) and I tend to shoot in my back pasture....with my backdrop the neighbors hay field and big stacked wall of old RR ties...when he saw it was me making the noise he walked down asked to see my permit and said "you have the right to do it...but I dont like it.....guns are not toys"...I said "I know agree"...he said "i dont think so cuz yer down here shooting 'em off"- I was practicing?!

Back to last night-It Ended up being my headlight was out which I had just noticed it day before and last night got the bulb to replace it...showed it to him he said Good...your on it......have a good night!!

i was surprised and glad that this trooper had a respect for the 2a and was glad to see people using it.

Sounds like that asshole cop didn’t want to be bothered to do his job that is in regards to the one about you playing with your toy gun.

 

[dsdmmat]

I'm Not OFFENDED that he asked...I would expect nothing less so doesnt change my mind any- they should be able to ask for all involved. Id want to know.

CRAP..I just forgot from reading a couple of posts above...I had my pocket knife on me and did not disclose that to him...thats it...LOCK ME UP!!!!
and My .243 in the trunk from hunting!!! Still have to take out. eeeeeks... IM a crimiminal!! ( meant to spell that way- I studder!!)

Sorry you feel that way (invasion of privacy is pretty serious), the less you say at a traffic stop the better off you are, everything you say is recorded either by the camera on the trooper, in the car or by the trooper While he is sitting in the car. The only information you have to give the officer for a traffic infraction is your license, registration and insurance. Everything else is something for a fishing expedition for a possible crime.

 

[holdover]

I found NYS police to be very professional ,I was a young lad I was pulled over in the Hudson valley for going through a yellow light, (He said it was red ) He asked me If I had any Guns,weapons RPG's in the car,I said no, I gave them up for lent, He started to laugh said he never heard that one before , Let me go.

Once I was flying down the I 90 along the Niagara river headed to the falls to see this girl , I was driveing a Camaro And I kept seeing headlights creeping up on me and I kept hitting the gas , Had to going 90+ it happened like three times Finally I thought Id better slow down could be the cops , yeah it was . He pulled me over and started bitching me out something awfull, I don't care who you know, I don't give a fuck if your dads the mayor , Im writeing you up! he kept screaming at me for about two minutes , I didn't say a word .what can I say? He said, do you know why I pulled you over ? I said yeah speeding SPEEDING ! He said, I couldn't fucking catch you! I was just wincing shrinking in my seat . Im fucked . Didn't you see me pull up on you ? I said yeah But I didn't know you were a cop. He said where the hell were going that you had to drive so fast? I said I was going to this strippers apartment in the Falls and Im running late. I gave my license and military ID He came back and said , Ok Im going to let ya let you but you better take it easy! I was like WTF? He had me stone cold .

Another time I was flying on the I 90 towards down town beautiful Sunday Morning , Im cruiseing around 80 , nobody in sight , I look in my mirror and here comes Joe Law , Fuuuuuuuuuuck! I wonder if hes coming after me
he pulls up on my Ass Im like Shit here it comes , And Im going on to the Skyway He passes me and keeps going straight on the express way and waves his finger at me as he goes by , I smiled and waved back . He had me dead nuts too.

One time I had an asshole Trooper and he still let me go . Of all the times the troopers pulled me over I only had one ticket from them .

 

[stokes]

I was on my bike,flying around on some backroads in Dutchess county,really tearing it up.A winding hilly road,I came up a hill and around a turn doing 90+ and as I topped the hill,theres a sheriffs car.I swerved around him and slowed down,knowing what was coming,he lit me up.I stopped.As he walked up I got the standard,"know why I stopped you"? without missing a beat I asked "You need directions"?.He paused,shook his head as he chuckled and said "slow the fuck down,your gonna kill yourself".

 

[Acer-m14]

The first thing he asked was if you had weapons in the car?

Sir , is not the a car a weapon if it wanted to be one ?? ..

 

[Shadow2]

Note when you have a knife ... Do you have any weapons .. NO! Do you have anything sharp or pointy that can stick me ... yes I have a knife in my pocket. If they ask if you have a weapon and you respond yes i have a pocket knife you just admitted your intent to use your pocket knife as a weapon rather then you carrying it as a tool for all lawful purposes. Standard old knives are not legally defined as weapons.

 

[Shadow2]

What court was this? Was this ever overturned? How does this fly in the face of being pulled from the car then frisked?

Wow. That was easier to find then I thought it would be

Cops Can't Just Ask Motorists About Guns: NY Court

 

[Wraith]

I was on my bike,flying around on some backroads in Dutchess county,really tearing it up.A winding hilly road,I came up a hill and around a turn doing 90+ and as I topped the hill,theres a sheriffs car.I swerved around him and slowed down,knowing what was coming,he lit me up.I stopped.As he walked up I got the standard,"know why I stopped you"? without missing a beat I asked "You need directions"?.He paused,shook his head as he chuckled and said "slow the fuck down,your gonna kill yourself".

I own property near the Sheriff’s barracks and they’re like the Troopers. Don’t give’m a hard time and 9/10 they won’t give you a hard time.

 

[fartgamer]

I know NY is not a must inform state but isn’t you DL now linked to your PP with the recertification?

 

[Acer-m14]

I know NY is not a must inform state but isn’t you DL now linked to your PP with the recertification?

what if its a BP one .. 2A ..

 

[Blimey]

Whenever a cop asks if you have weapons in the car after a traffic stop for a ticketable traffic offense, he is fishing for an arrest that goes against his oath to the Constitution. Plain and simple.

I wouldn't call it a positive experience.

I suppose this is correct.

Also, I have a locking knife on me at all times. It is a tool; a utility like using a pipe wrench. A pipe wrench is not a weapon, but it can be one. Is my knife the same? if I'm asked if I have a weapon and I say no, and he sees a knife, did I lie? What if I say yes? Now he knows I have a weapon and why am I carrying a knife that I consider to be a weapon when NY state may prohibit that (utility knifes are fine)?

 

[Marine Cpl]

I suppose this is correct.

Also, I have a locking knife on me at all times. It is a tool; a utility like using a pipe wrench. A pipe wrench is not a weapon, but it can be one. Is my knife the same? if I'm asked if I have a weapon and I say no, and he sees a knife, did I lie? What if I say yes? Now he knows I have a weapon and why am I carrying a knife that I consider to be a weapon when NY state may prohibit that (utility knifes are fine)?

It's not illegal to lie. And how will he see it?

 

[Blimey]

It's not illegal to lie. And how will he see it?

Apparently it is to a fed Lying to Police a Crime: Should it Be? | National Review, and the point is if you do lie, now they can say you lied during an investigation. This is why lawyers always say do not talk to police.

 

[MuttCat]

Always ensure vehicle does not give any reason to be pulled over. Corollary; ensure vehicle operator does not give any reason to be pulled over. Cops do not pull you over to make friends.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Apparently it is to a fed Lying to Police a Crime: Should it Be? | National Review, and the point is if you do lie, now they can say you lied during an investigation. This is why lawyers always say do not talk to police.

Federal cops don't make traffic stops and asking if you have weapons in the car has nothing to do with a criminal investigation for a speeding offense.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Always ensure vehicle does not give any reason to be pulled over. Corollary; ensure vehicle operator does not give any reason to be pulled over. Cops do not pull you over to make friends.

Well not entirely true. 4 years ago the trooper that pulled me over was a good friend from college. We'd lost contact for near 20 years. Now we hang out routinely, go to dinner, races, hunt, and shoot together. All in all, a positive experienece.
(And no, he didnt write me a ticket)

 

[Saltwater60]

I know NY is not a must inform state but isn’t you DL now linked to your PP with the recertification?

Even before they could find out if you had a pistol permit. My dad described it to me as they have like 2-3 screens available to them and pistol permit info is on one of those screens. They knew before the renewal process.

 

[phatfarmerbob]

I did exactly that - said I'd be reaching for license in my pocket and registration in the glove box and got the ok before doing so. I also roll down windows an driver's side and turn on interior lights as a courtesy.

So every time I have been stopped I have had lots of time from pulling over till the officer gets to my window to take my license and reg out and have it ready before they got to the car. I just lay it on the dash, than keep my hands on the wheel as they approach (lights on interior if it’s night) I have never been repremanded for this, am I doing it wrong. It’s not like they are pulling me over and running up to the window. Serious question. LEO? Thoughts?