Private Ammo Sales…. (background checks for private transfers)

[Nontypical]

I posted this on another forum since the topic of background checks for private transfers keeps coming up and I figured that I’d start it’s own thread here to discuss if needed.
I just called the troopers at 1-855-GUN-LAWS.
He said that background checks are ONLY required if I was selling my ammunition commercially.
I would need to register with NYS as a seller of ammunition ONLY if I was selling ammunition commercially.
If I were to sell or give ammunition to someone while we were goose hunting, a background check is not required.
If I sold ammunition to a friend, a background check is not required.

Then he stated that even if I sold ammunition at a garage sale, a background check still is not required.

He actually started to chuckle as I asked each question…

 

[JRtraderny]

I posted this on another forum since the topic of background checks for private transfers keeps coming up and I figured that I’d start it’s own thread here to discuss if needed.
I just called the troopers at 1-855-GUN-LAWS.
He said that background checks are ONLY required if I was selling my ammunition commercially.
I would need to register with NYS as a seller of ammunition ONLY if I was selling ammunition commercially.
If I were to sell or give ammunition to someone while we were goose hunting, a background check is not required.
If I sold ammunition to a friend, a background check is not required.

Then he stated that even if I sold ammunition at a garage sale, a background check still is not required.

He actually started to chuckle as I asked each question…

The trooper probably was on here watching the ongoing saga , that's why he was chuckling .

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

I bet if someone called and a different trooper answered, there'd be a different answer.

 

[Nontypical]

The trooper probably was on here watching the ongoing saga , that's why he was chuckling .

He was chuckling because he kept saying that it only applied to commercial sellers. That’s when he used the garage sale as an example to get his point across.

 

[Nontypical]

I bet if someone called and a different trooper answered, there'd be a different answer.

Go ahead and make the call. That’s why I posted the number. I sent an email early this morning and received a response after I called stating that as long as I wasn’t in business I could sell my personal surplus of ammunition privately without requiring a background check.

 

[Darth]

Which part of the judicial branch is the NYSP again?

 

[Saltwater60]

Honestly I hope this is true. We will never get a concrete answer.

 

[Nontypical]

Honestly I hope this is true. We will never get a concrete answer.

Call them or email them. It’s not that hard

 

[Nontypical]

The email was listed at the top of the “Sellers of Ammunition Registration“ form.
pistolpt@troopers.ny.gov
1-855-GUN-LAWS

 

[Bustedknees]

People tend to exaggerate existing laws in fear of breaking all the bullshit laws on the books.
There was someone on here recently who would not sell their ammo without a background check.

 

[96coal449]

Sooo.....is anyone having a garage sale?

 

[2WheelGnnr]

I dont sell commercially. I just consider myself a reseller of PA Acquired ammo at my "Garage Sales".................
Its ALL surplus!!!!!
Hehehehe

 

[Steal2B]

Sooo.....is anyone having a garage sale?

If we lived right, when we depart, our heirs will store and frequently shoot their inherentance rather then cashing in at a rather large Estate Sale.

 

[Saltwater60]

so this is very interesting. I noticed they have changed the wording in the site about being a registered seller of ammunition and background checks for ammunition.
I am 100% sure it used to say engaged in the business of selling ammunition, but now it says commercial sale.
The OP is 100% correct that if you look up the definition of commercial sale it is not a private sale. It’s business to consumer or business to business.
Again I am 100% sure it used to say engaged in the sale not commercial sales.
It also used to say any person selling ammunition needs to register as a seller of ammunition. Glad to see this is cleared up.

Ammunition Registration

gunsafety.ny.gov

 

[Darth]

People tend to exaggerate existing laws in fear of breaking all the bullshit laws on the books.
There was someone on here recently who would not sell their ammo without a background check.

I strongly support naming and shaming those types.

We deal with enough real laws, last thing we need is such "friends. "


For example, if you've ever heard " NY has no castle doctrine, you shoot them here and it's life in prison!", you've just dealt with a FUD.

Same with "I can't sell you 9mm without a pistol permit. "

3 worst people to ask about gun laws: Cops, Gun Store Owners and "this one guy i know (bonus if he was IN THE MARINES!!!)

 

[GOPerfect]

I can't believe that anyone would care enough about selling something you own to another person to feel the need to call the Police.

 

[96coal449]

I can't believe that anyone would care enough about selling something you own to another person to feel the need to call the Police.

Bingo.

 

[Old Jalopy]

so this is very interesting. I noticed they have changed the wording in the site about being a registered seller of ammunition and background checks for ammunition.
I am 100% sure it used to say engaged in the business of selling ammunition, but now it says commercial sale.
The OP is 100% correct that if you look up the definition of commercial sale it is not a private sale. It’s business to consumer or business to business.
Again I am 100% sure it used to say engaged in the sale not commercial sales.
It also used to say any person selling ammunition needs to register as a seller of ammunition. Glad to see this is cleared up.

Ammunition Registration

gunsafety.ny.gov

It did use to say "Egnaged in the sale of ammunition".

 

[Nontypical]

Using the wayback machine to see old versions of the website, nothing has changed with the wording in at least the last 2 years. Here is a screenshot from 1/28/24. Just saying.
Also, no changes have been made to 265.24

Ammunition Registration