Republicans join Democrats to advance same-sex ‘marriage’ bill in historic defeat for conservatives

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Republicans join Democrats to advance same-sex 'marriage' bill in historic defeat for conservatives - LifeSite

Twelve Republican senators joined with all Democrats to advance the bill, which is set to be Joe Biden's first major legislative victory on LGBT issues.
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Twelve Republican senators joined all Democrats to move forward on the bill, the “Respect for Marriage Act,” including: Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Rob Portman of Ohio, Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Richard Burr of North Carolina, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Joni Ernst of Iowa, Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, Dan Sullivan of Alaska, and Todd Young of Indiana.
 
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Not only is this language light years more radical than the justices’ ruling seven years ago — cracking down on parents, charities, adoption agencies, teachers, Christian schools, counselors, and Bible-believing professionals — the government would be declaring open season on anyone who believes in marriage as it’s always been: the union of a man and woman.
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The advancement of RFMA is yet another instance of Senate Republicans providing the votes needed to pass overreaching Democrat legislation, which includes broad-sweeping bills concerning gun control and infrastructure.

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12 Senate Republicans Vote with Dems for 'Respect for Marriage Act'

Lawmakers voted for the measure 62-37 after a bipartisan group of senators added a clause about religious liberty.
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Good. The authoritarian Christian mafia loses again. Declining numbers. Increasing irrelevance. I love it. Maybe the Catholic Church will die soon. Good thing if it does, our boys will be safe from the ass-raping "men of God" priests.
 
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So about passing laws to stop voter fraud. Yea. Both sides are the same.
 
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Expect much more of this to come.
Honestly as others have indicated I don’t really care too much what others do but this advancement will be the end of us as a society and will keep pushing us farther left.
Let me explain. I don’t support being gay but if you are I don’t really care as I can’t and won’t force my beliefs on you or anyone else but I feel things like this is what will give the democrats and the government the edge. This will brake down the family structure and force people to depend on the government more and more. Also people will always support their loved ones so people will love and support more gay and trans people
 
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SonOfSun said:
Good. The authoritarian Christian mafia loses again. Declining numbers. Increasing irrelevance. I love it. Maybe the Catholic Church will die soon. Good thing if it does, our boys will be safe from the ass-raping "men of God" priests.
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By the way, this is not a religion thing for many people. This is not a christian value, it is a just a value and a moral that many have. With or without a religion to back it up.
 
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By the way, this is not a religion thing for many people. This is not a christian value, it is a just a value and a moral that many have. With or without a religion to back it up.
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What moral? I find it more immoral that outsiders want to dictate to others who they can and cannot marry. Talking about consenting adults here of course.
 
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I am against this, but then again, I am against the Federal or the State government being involved with marriage on any level.

This has nothing at all with people that chose to be gay. I do not care at all about their choices in life. I want less government control either way.
 
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SonOfSun said:
What moral? I find it more immoral that outsiders want to dictate to others who they can and cannot marry. Talking about consenting adults here of course.
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Morals, values and ethics are determined by the individual. I cannot explain the morals of all people. Some just find the idea of choosing to be gay to go against their own person morals and ethics. Religion does not need to be in place to have these thoughts and ideas.
 
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I am against this, but then again, I am against the Federal or the State government being involved with marriage on any level.

This has nothing at all with people that chose to be gay. I do not care at all about their choices in life. I want less government control either way.
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That's a pretty reasonable position and probably the best one. Sadly we won't get that so in the next best case I'm in favor of the govt. saying they can't discriminate.
 
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That's a pretty reasonable position and probably the best one. Sadly we won't get that so in the next best case I'm in favor of the govt. saying they can't discriminate.
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I am in favor though, if this goes through, for individuals and private companies to discriminate against what they do not believe in.

These protections should only adhere to the government. Not the people. If a business does not want to do business with a gay couple based on them being gay, this is okay as far as I am concerned.

Again, less government regulation.
 
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Republicans deciding to fight tooth and nail against gay marriage is what has given the Democrats the edge.

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Possibly. I think the reason they are not winning each and every election is because they do not stand firm enough on real conservative issues.

Many that try, many sound like freaking lunitics. you can stick to a good value and moral standard without sounding so foolish.
 
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People who say consenting ADULTS, admit there are morals and then by atacking morals contradict themselves.

No one can stop two consenting adults to sit behind closed doors and feed faeces to each other, doesn't mean such practices need to get social acceptance.
 
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Mosinitis said:
People who say consenting ADULTS, admit there are morals and then by atacking morals contradict themselves.

No one can stop two consenting adults to sit behind closed doors and feed faeces to each other, doesn't mean such practices need to get social acceptance.
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Is it socal acceptance at issue, or is it the law?
 
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There are many that are stepping up for the Pedos and those that are into bestiality. Just a matter of short time before these deviant behaviors are okay as well.
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Yeah, I mean you completely ignored the consenting adult requirement, but beyond that who decides what is deviant and from that who decides what is legal?

I would consider genital mutilation deviant, but it's downright encouraged in this country. And not to consenting adults btw.
 
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GOPerfect said:
There are many that are stepping up for the Pedos and those that are into bestiality. Just a matter of short time before these deviant behaviors are okay as well.
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Nah. This is nothing more than fear mongering. The key element here is legal consent, which neither children nor animals can give.
 
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Darth said:
Yeah, I mean you completely ignored the consenting adult requirement, but beyond that who decides what is deviant and from that who decides what is legal?

I would consider genital mutilation deviant, but it's downright encouraged in this country. And not to consenting adults btw.
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I ignored none of that. I just stated that there are many trying to take away the stigma of these two groups of sickos. Well, apparently, the elected class decides what is and what is not deviant.
 
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I ignored none of that. I just stated that there are many trying to take away the stigma of these two groups of sickos. Well, apparently, the elected class decides what is and what is not deviant.
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You did though, by mentioning kids and animals.

I don't think it's the elected class that decides. Plenty in this thread seem to be deciding.
 
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Maybe I am reading things incorrectly, I stated that there are many in society stepping up and defending these two groups. Nothing more and really, nothing less. I stated a fact, there are many trying to protect these two groups of people.

As for people deciding, it is a really good thing these decisions are not up to me. Many of these groups of people would not exist within society. Good that others are making the call.
 
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