Single payer for YOU. No escape now comrade.

[redtail]

NAMES, Primary wont't fix it now. TRAITORS to the republic.
Sens. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.;
Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va.;
Susan Collins, R-Maine;
Dean Heller, R-Nev.;
John McCain, R-Ariz.;
Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska;
and Rob Portman, R-Ohio,
joined all Democrats to defeat the amendment, which would have given Congress two years to devise a replacement to the 2010 Affordable Care Act.

 

[Deplorable Me]

In a bizarre twist, NY public employee unions do not want single payer health care. This is something they include in their contract negotiations. Being forced into single payer limits access to healthcare in some areas. This could be a nail in Andy's coffin. Stupid union eunuchs, too little too late, they include FUDDS.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes we are headed to single payer healthcare and both parties want it. They want the control don't kid yourself. No ether party is our friend. Ones the devil and the other one is just slightly less devilish.

 

[Burzum]

If the cost curve is not fixed by the REAL free market, then whether it is "Obama Care" or "Trump care," it will fail, just Obama care will fail quicker.

Until K Street stops writing our laws, we will always lose and lose big,

 

[fartgamer]

It won't fail at all, they'll just keep taxing the crap out of us.

In addition, get those death panels ready. You or your child even, have a illness "they" deem not worthy of treatment, you get none.
You have no "value" to society.....too bad. Die fuckers.

 

[Defilade]

Gee, let's just adopt the Healthcare from 15 years ago. Nobody had an issue.

 

[Madmallard]

Why don't they do a complete analysis of what driving the high cost of healthcare and fix that instead of trying cram a piece of crap law down our throats.

 

[Defilade]

Why don't they do a complete analysis of what driving the high cost of healthcare and fix that instead of trying cram a piece of crap law down our throats.

Because it's about having control, take control of the healthcare and you control the people. Government should not be in the Healthcare business at all. Stick around, The Government will mandate you to put a chip in your hand for your Healthcare.

 

[Burzum]

Why don't they do a complete analysis of what driving the high cost of healthcare and fix that instead of trying cram a piece of crap law down our throats.

There have been studies and hearings on this to beat the band, it is very simple: The insurance lobby, Big Pharma, the hospital lobby, the AMA, etc., all these entities have lobbyists, they write the bills, we the people do not.

Big Pharma has over two lobbyists for every member of the Congress (remember that includes BOTH chambers), they spend far more on executive compensation and advertising than R&D, a nice share of their initial research is handed to them from the NIH, the Defense Dept., and universities, and NO THEY DO NOT ALWAYS SAVE lives, in fact Big Pharma cockblocks better and cheaper alternatives that other countries' health care systems use to great effect.

Germany solved their health care problem in the mid-1880s, and YES Germany has a separate government agency that researches medicinal herbs and alternative modalities that work,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wow how f**king crazy to give a patient an herb that works better with less side effects than Big Pharma's pills,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MONEY/GREED/GREED/MONEY,,,,,,,,,that is why we are so screwed in America.

 

[Phauxtoe]

Congress has a single payer system, they love it! its the Best in the World!

 

[prambo]

There have been studies and hearings on this to beat the band, it is very simple: The insurance lobby, Big Pharma, the hospital lobby, the AMA, etc......they spend far more on executive compensation and advertising than R&D, a nice share of their initial research is handed to them from the NIH, the Defense Dept., and universities,

Exactly. Having been involved in research for years, and having seen and participated in grant writing, submission and review, MOST of the research necessary to identify a target(s) for influencing a disease or it's symptomns is done with tax payer money.

For example, Humira is a "humanized" mouse antibody to tumor necrosis factor (TNF). The details are irrelevant, except that the effects of TNF were identified in the early '60s, and the molecule itself was identified in 1984 - 32 years ago! The patent on Humira expired in 2016. Virtually ALL preliminary work was done in universities and research centers NOT part of any pharmaceutical company. This includes work on preventing, or reducing, the extent to which mouse derived antibodies will cause a reaction in humans ("humanization").

http://www.bloodjournal.org/content/119/3/651?sso-checked=true

Adalimumab - Wikipedia

IMHO, all that money should be returned to the country, with interest, the same as an investor in a biotech start-up company gets stock and/or money as a return on his investment.

Some pharmaceutical firms used to have their own basic research labs - for example Roche Institute of Molecular Biology - much good work was done there - it closed in 1995 - Roche Institute of Molecular Biology - Wikipedia

Bristol-Myers Squibb still has one in NJ.

 

[Defilade]

I could only imagine how many Patents have been bought up by the Healthcare industry and they just sit on them. Actual cures for all types of diseases probably belong to them. No money to be made on Cures. They make a fortune on Drugs/Rehab.

 

[Robin]

 

[fartgamer]

Congress has a single payer system, they love it! its the Best in the World!

Yes, called The. American Taxpayer