There's nowhere near enough power on the grid to convert the U.S. truck fleet to battery electric.

[livingston]

There's nowhere near enough power on the grid to convert the U.S. truck fleet to battery electric.​

One fleet tried to electrify just 30 trucks at a terminal in Joliet, Illinois. Local officials shut those plans down, saying that would draw more electricity than is needed to power the entire city.
Another California company tried to electrify 12 forklifts. Not trucks, but forklifts. Local power utilities told them that's not possible.

Massachusetts Trucking Executive Urges Congress to Set Achievable Emissions

Boyle warns against unrealistic timelines and state regulatory patchworks

www.trucking.org

"While we share the passion for EVs in cars and light duty vehicles, projecting an automotive construct onto trucking industry dynamics is a massive mistake."
Washington — Today, Andrew Boyle, co-president of Massachusetts-based Boyle Transportation and first vice chairman of the American Trucking Associations, told Congress the trucking industry was committed to further reducing emissions but that regulations must be technically achievable, national in scope, and set on a realistic timeline.

Testifying before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s Clean Air, Climate and Nuclear Safety Subcommittee, Boyle touted the industry’s incredible strides in reducing emissions, citing that today’s clean diesel trucks produce 99% lower emissions than those from the 1980s. Attributing those gains to innovation and achievable national standards, Boyle warned against the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s creation of a state regulatory patchwork in granting a waiver for California’s ‘Advanced Clean Trucks’ rule, which is heavily predicated on the adoption of electric trucks.

 

[livingston]

CLIMATE

California to require half of all heavy trucks sales to be electric by 2035​

POINTS

• The Environmental Protection Agency on Friday said it’s granting California the legal authority to require that half of all heavy-duty truck sales in the state be fully electric by 2035.
• The Biden administration’s approval of California’s Advanced Clean Trucks (ACT) Regulation goes beyond federal requirements.
• The approval comes after the state last year banned the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles starting in the same target year of 2035.
• The heavy-duty truck rule has already been adopted by six other states — New York, New Jersey, Washington, Oregon, Massachusetts and Vermont — all of which were waiting for permission from the Biden administration to enact it.

California to require half of all heavy trucks sales to be electric by 2035

The Biden administration's waiver comes after California last year banned the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles starting in the same target year of 2035.

www.cnbc.com

 

[livingston]

Breaking News! California Officially Outlaws The Sale Of Diesel Semi Trucks Hours Ago By 2042​

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Something the general public (of average intelligence) already knew.

 

[ManualF150]

I'll be sure to buy all diesel vehicles from now until the day I start pushing up the daisies.

I'll run it on fryer oil if I have to.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

The idea is to crash everything, not just the electrical power grid. When the chaos starts China takes Taiwan, Russia finishes Ukraine and gives NATO, especially Poland a beating.

Old Joe will blame Trump.

 

[livingston]

The idea is to crash everything, not just the electrical power grid. When the chaos starts China takes Taiwan, Russia finishes Ukraine and gives NATO, especially Poland a beating.

Old Joe will blame Trump.

We crash and burn as a country ... Hope you have enough ammo stored. Think all the illegal immigrants ... Millions of them would be loyal to the USA... China would love to colonize this country also... Gangs would be running the cities. .. Total shit show.

 

[tirwin1]

I keep repeating myself but has the whole world gone stark raving mad?

 

[Cavalry]

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One fleet tried to electrify just 30 trucks at a terminal in Joliet, Illinois. Local officials shut those plans down, saying that would draw more electricity than is needed to power the entire city.
Another California company tried to electrify 12 forklifts. Not trucks, but forklifts. Local power utilities told them that's not possible.

I am far from a proponent of electric but thats just horseshit.
A electric terrmal truck is a 220kwh battery or just a litttle more than two teslas. We do not know the rate that they terminal truck charge at but a Telsla supercharger is about 180a @ 460v. These are not obscene amp loads for an industrial area and even at 30 chargers far from "an entire city"
A electric forklift charger takes less than 30a @ 460v. Sure its not possible if your company has a 200 amp service, but for again for any industrial areal this is a nothing. If you choose a location that does not have adequate utilities to run your company whos fault is that?

 

[Jmac00]

I think this is spectacularly great idea. I LOVE THIS PLAN!!

and now back to reality> Truckers should boycott California for two weeks. Just two weeks. Nothing in or out of California. Shut down LA Harbor.

I can't wait to see and hear the shit storm from the left. Petey Buttplug will do nothing, obviously he doesn't have a clue.

The lefties will lose their shit,

 

[Acer-m14]

I think this is spectacularly great idea. I LOVE THIS PLAN!!

and now back to reality> Truckers should boycott California for two weeks. Just two weeks. Nothing in or out of California. Shut down LA Harbor.

I can't wait to see and hear the shit storm from the left. Petey Buttplug will do nothing, obviously he doesn't have a clue.

The lefties will lose their shit,

if your tuck is Cali legal or not .. grab a load to Cali and just drop it at the boarder in the fking Road .. plug it up .. let them figure it out ..

its time to take off the gloves and play dirty pool too ..

 

[spat]

Hell, the generation is the *easy* part.

You could build enough nuclear reactors in a decade to power them all.

It's the grid that's the hard problem. How are you going to distribute that power.

It's *way* easier to build 1000 nuke plants than it is to upgrade the entire distribution grid.

 

[Acer-m14]

It's the grid that's the hard problem. How are you going to distribute that power.

ban EV cars .. no need for all that copper wire in electric motors .. its now to update the grid

 

[maverick52]

When is this gonna stop? I hate seeing this all the time. Our society is really gone.

 

[livingston]

Conventional gas-powered cars contain 18 to 49 lbs. of copper while a battery-powered EV contains 183 lbs. Meanwhile, for a fully electrical bus, a whopping 814 lbs. of copper is needed.

How Much Copper is in an Electric Vehicle?

Have you ever wondered how much copper is in an electric vehicle? This infographic shows the metal's properties as well as the quantity of copper used.

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[Truebeliever]

The answer is easy. The United Ststes Congress has to step in with commerce clause and say, nope— we are going to have gas and diesel trucks.

 

[Defilade]

I thought Trucks would just wind up!

 

[Saltwater60]

This is not news or new. Even the Biden energy secretly Ganholm will admit we need to double the capacity. The cost will be passed onto us.

 

[ManualF150]

And people want this in or near their home?

Test shows explosive power of a lithium-ion battery thermal runaway

Testing conducted by UL's Fire Safety Research Institute (FSRI) demonstrates the potential explosive power of a lithium ion battery thermal runaway inside a simulated residential two-car garage. The testing was completed in western Illinois in 2022.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Acer-m14]

wonder if they say how much Diesel they use in the Tour LOL

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