Virginia Beach first responders ‘pushed and kicked’ while responding to a deadly motorcycle crash

[pjzwtl]

If this nonsense keeps up anyone requiring fire or EMS in an urban area will be FUBAR.

Virginia Beach first responders ‘pushed and kicked’ while responding to a deadly motorcycle crash

 

[repete]

WTF is wrong with people?

 

[GOPerfect]

I hope that these First Responders start to wake up. Fire Fighters should have used their hoses on these assholes.

 

[pjzwtl]

I hope that these First Responders start to wake up. Fire Fighters should have used their hoses on these assholes.

A little monitor can go a long way

 

[1075tech]

A little monitor can go a long way

300 joules. Come at me bro

 

[Blimey]

Story misses a lot of details. Also no video anywhere of it?

 

[Bob]

I hope that these First Responders start to wake up. Fire Fighters should have used their hoses on these assholes.

Or they could just walk away. "The scene is not safe." That'd really chap some asses.

I'd love to see EMS say they won't even roll out until LE comes on scene and determines it's safe. Imagine the outcry in the community? I believe that's what they call the law of unintended consequences.

 

[prambo]

Emotional is one thing, blatant stupidity is another. @Blimey is correct, the story is a bit "thin" on details, plus there's a small correction at the end. Regardless, this occurred, and I doubt the firefighters acted inappropriately.

Guess my obsession with carrying a metric crap-ton of regular, and advanced (Hyfin and Asherman seals, etc.), first aid stuff in the passenger compartment and trunk of the car might come in handy. The total loadout would make a medic jealous.

 

[Bob]

This type of thing occurs more often that people think, and providers put up with it WAY more than they should. I don't care how emotional you are, it is NEVER ok to put your hands on a firefighter or EMS provider when they're doing their job.

I was doing compressions on a guy one night, and his wife almost laid me out because she heard a rib snap and she thought I was hurting him. I absolutely should have got up and walked out. And the reality is that it wouldn't have made a difference in his outcome if I had.

I had a guy meet me as I stepped off the ambulance one night in the middle of a snowstorm. He grabbed my shirt and started yelling at me because it took us too long to get there. Sure, it took us a little extra time to get there. Primarily, it was because we were trying to clear another job where 911 screwed up and sent us to declare a hospice patient.

In the past,we brushed it off as part of the job. Today, I'd be walking off scenes and having people arrested for the same behavior. I guess I'm just too old and too burned out to deal with the bullshit anymore.

 

[1075tech]

Or they could just walk away. "The scene is not safe." That'd really chap some asses.

I'd love to see EMS say they won't even roll out until LE comes on scene and determines it's safe. Imagine the outcry in the community? I believe that's what they call the law of unintended consequences.

When I used to work commercial EMS, we got called for a stabbing. Dispatch just gave us an address, not the name of the establishment. We came around the corner and saw a bunch of cars parked in the street with just their parking lights on. No flashy lights. Ok. Normal MO for PD. We pulled up to the scene to find that the cars were NOT PD. Soon there were 50 - 75 people in the street. Fights were breaking out. Some guy was yelling at us to help his sister who was inside. Yeah, no. Not until PD arrives. Then there were gunshots. We quickly vacated the area until dispatch called us back to let us know that PD was on scene and wanted us to expedite (still haven't found that button on the dash). We pulled up, they had her in the street. We scooped and boogied out of there.

First rule of EMS is scene safety.

 

[pjzwtl]

There are a a few call types I won’t roll in on until I have confirmation by PD the scene is secure. Most issues for us though arise unexpectedly and that’s were the danger lies. It’s also why there are some mainly younger techs I don’t feel comfortable working with. Their sheltered time out chair lives cause them to have no situational awareness or cause an over reaction.
Like @Bob said years ago we just accepted it but times have changed. I can ignore the bullshit coming out of someone’s mouth but the second they become threats or physical in any way their in trouble and I’m outa there till PD takes over.

We’re kinda spoiled around here in most areas PD responds to most medical calls anyway when they stopped for a while because of PPE issues over COVID we noticed

 

[pjzwtl]

300 joules. Come at me bro

I miss the paddles

 

[redtail]

Should be treated as the rabid dogs they are.
EMS are true heroes, especially volunteer corps.
They are there for one reason only to help injured and sick people.
This sickens me.