Under the "new law".. I have not read it complete, just what I have read on forums... From what I gather, you can carry from your home or property where it is still legal,to the car, in the car, and maybe walking down the street in some places, and pretty much everything else is off limits, NO private businesses at all, no parks, no recreation areas such as kids ball games, fishing areas, camp grounds, state land except to hunt?.. Honestly I am not real sure, and any further info would be welcome.. I plan on spending a lot more of my time shopping in Pa. where I can still carry[for now].. anyway, maybe I am not understanding 100%, and a few folks here have a better handle on this disgusting violation of the Second Amendment.......bob
Where are we not allowed to concealed carry upstate?
- Thread starter beebee
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Attention all criminals who live in New York. Governor Hochul and the Democrats in Albany have released a list of places where you can shoot people with no fear of anyone being able to defend themselves or shoot back at you. Democrats want to make sure only criminals can carry weapons in New York and law-abiding citizens of NY need to be aware of this fact.
Cavalry
.308 Win
Private business by default are no carry zones. If they are ok will CC then they must post a sign.
The following are no carry zones;
(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of government administration, including courts;
(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependance (sic) care or services;
(c) any place of worship or religious observation;
(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;
(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;
(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people with developmental disabilities;
(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction services and supports;
(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental health;
(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of temporary and disability assistance;
(k)homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;
(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;
(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabilities, and any state-operated or state-supported schools;
(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail stations, and bus terminals;
(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five, or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;
(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;
(q) any location being used as a polling place;
(r) any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;
(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;
(t) the area commonly known as Times Square, as such area is determined and identified by the city of New York; provided such area shall be clearly and conspicuously identified with signage.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It appears to me it’s all private property not just businesses. They leave it kind of a grey area, but it’s alluded to and that’s how I understand it.
There is another thread on this in the handgun section that has the guidance from NYSP.
www.silive.com
There is another thread on this in the handgun section that has the guidance from NYSP.
N.Y.’s new gun control laws: Here are the rules for law enforcement officers’ rights, licensing and more
New application materials include submitting your social media accounts from the past 3 years.
www.silive.com
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minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
What if we just wear a sign welcoming CCW? That way we can do as we please, unrestricted. /s
As in wearing a shirt with a handgun in a green circle that says: "CCW Welcome here! FUKH & fellow traitors".
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
Exactly!
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Concealed is concealed
If somebody comes up with it, I'll buy it and wear it proudly. But they need to offer big and tall sizes up to 5X, LOL!
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Here. This is easier. You can't carry in the red areas.
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
It was done with license recert / renewal
You can carry on your property, your car, the street, AND private property where you have expressly been granted permission by posted "guns welcome" signs.
So ya there ya have it.
No way this gets upheld by SCOTUS but that is a waiting game now. And until then we are stuck deciding whether to follow clown laws or not
So ya there ya have it.
No way this gets upheld by SCOTUS but that is a waiting game now. And until then we are stuck deciding whether to follow clown laws or not
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
from 3am to 5am only as well as only for number 1...if you go #2 and pull your pants down you might shoot yourself so thats not allowed either.
Packman297
9mm
The "places of worship" restriction really bugs me. There seems to be no way that a place of worship can opt out of this restriction, even by posting. And the chances of even getting something posted at most places of worship are slim to begin with!
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Hard to say, I'm not a lawyer, but the way I read it, it basically says "you can't carry anywhere there are metal detectors...". Opinions vary.
ronstar
.357 mag
You are allowed to carry on sidewalks and in any business that specifically and clearly allows.
Which I believe will be tossed out by the courts. Mandating that every single private business is gun-free unless they specifically State otherwise is ridiculous
Which I believe will be tossed out by the courts. Mandating that every single private business is gun-free unless they specifically State otherwise is ridiculous
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
However, if the question is “What percentage of crimes are committed with legally purchased guns” the answer is about six percent of murders – and very few other crimes. Amateurs buy guns at a dealers; which involves extensive paperwork, identification, FBI background checks, and so on. Pros buy guns on the street, where the only requirement is money – or other valuta.
The overwhelming majority of gun related crimes are committed with guns that have been stolen, and traded for drugs. Those guns are passed from criminal to criminal, sold and resold, and may very well be used in hundreds of crimes before they are recovered from someone accused of a crime.
I will be expecting the crime rates in this state to plummet to near zero in the coming months as a result of Cunty Whorecul's new brainchild. Let's see if I'm correct.
The overwhelming majority of gun related crimes are committed with guns that have been stolen, and traded for drugs. Those guns are passed from criminal to criminal, sold and resold, and may very well be used in hundreds of crimes before they are recovered from someone accused of a crime.
I will be expecting the crime rates in this state to plummet to near zero in the coming months as a result of Cunty Whorecul's new brainchild. Let's see if I'm correct.
This could mean any road, sidewalk, trail, etc.
so, basically, you can't leave your own property.
Day444
.223 Rem
No where as of Sept first!
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
Dont poke the bear
Concealed is concealed am I right?
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
long as you stay inside your house, then you would be correct
Yeah, OK
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
thanks to the evil bitch in charge of NYS ..
all the red zones are now classified as FREE KILL ZONES .. DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF ..
all the red zones are now classified as FREE KILL ZONES .. DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF ..
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I bet my hutch would post the sign. We have a security team and I’ll bet you 25-30% of those in attendance are carrying there.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Not all sidewalks. If there is a planned event or a protest then it’s not allowed. Also no park sidewalks.
Yes
Until God forbid you actually have to use it.
Here's a mental mind F. Imagine carrying in a store that doesn't have a guns welcome sign. No problem you can conceal no one will know.
Well......
What if while you are in that store minding your own business an active shooter comes in. Imagine being in the moral dilemma of trying to decide whether saving innocent lives like the woman and 2 kids at the end of the aisle is worth you opening yourself up up to risk of prosecution by engaging the shooter.
Imagine the morality of trying to make a split second decision to either think of what's best for yourself and escape without drawing your pistol or knowing that you are in a position to save lives lives but willingly sacrifice them to the shooter to keep yourself out of jail.
This law is going to put us legal gun owners who have a moral compass in some very compromising positions