With the microstamping bill I’m thinking of new pistols

[Saltwater60]

My goal is to have enough to have my entire family have enough non-microstamped pistols and we can share them all on the same permits. So my thoughts are I really like the sig 365, but I haven’t had the chance to find and fondle the 365 xl, but that attracts me as well. So here’s the question do I just blindly buy the 365xl since it seems to be the same gun with a longer grip and slide so it should balance or do I just buy multiple 365’s. Also the 365x is just a 365 with the xl grip correct? I know it also has the flat trigger too.
I found the 365 for $499 on GB and that’s not bad. Also does the 365xl mags fit the 365 and so they make an adapter plate for them?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Listen or don't to me.

Don't panic buy shit.... micro stamping isn't coming any time soon


Also the P365 line are all the same Fire Control Group (unit???) Get whichever one you can/want and then you can always buy grip modules and slides to mix and match to your hearts intent

 

[Saltwater60]

Listen or don't to me.

Don't panic buy shit.... micro stamping isn't coming any time soon


Also the P365 line are all the same Fire Control Group (unit???) Get whichever one you can/want and then you can always buy grip modules and slides to mix and match to your hearts intent

I mostly agree with you, but to agree 100% I need to trust that politicians will do the right thing and I can’t do that. So I’ll say 90% of me agrees with you.
On the flip side I’ve been mulling this purchase over for a while and was looking to do it and then the pandemic hit. I had a hard time finding them locally to compare the XL to the 365 and it seems that will continue for some time now.
Also yes they all use the same fire control unit, but by the time you buy the grip module, slide, barrel and mags for the XL to get you the maximum I’m configurations with the 365 you might as well just buy the gun. Also then the new shooters can practice on the larger gun first and who knows I might even like it with the longer slide and shorter grip? Maybe I’d just carry the xl as is and it has the micro optic plate. I e been kicking around a pistol red dot and I know you’re a fan of those.
I know I made it seem like it was a panic buy because the new law, but this is more of get your ass in gear since you’ve been sitting on it for too long now. The Springfield I have is heavy and thick so it’s hard to carry these days with getting older. I find myself carrying my .380 more and more, but I’d like to have a larger capacity 9mm for the more rounds and greater knockdown power. There’s a lot to it really and thanks for the feedback.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I mostly agree with you, but to agree 100% I need to trust that politicians will do the right thing and I can’t do that. So I’ll say 90% of me agrees with you.
On the flip side I’ve been mulling this purchase over for a while and was looking to do it and then the pandemic hit. I had a hard time finding them locally to compare the XL to the 365 and it seems that will continue for some time now.
Also yes they all use the same fire control unit, but by the time you buy the grip module, slide, barrel and mags for the XL to get you the maximum I’m configurations with the 365 you might as well just buy the gun. Also then the new shooters can practice on the larger gun first and who knows I might even like it with the longer slide and shorter grip? Maybe I’d just carry the xl as is and it has the micro optic plate. I e been kicking around a pistol red dot and I know you’re a fan of those.
I know I made it seem like it was a panic buy because the new law, but this is more of get your ass in gear since you’ve been sitting on it for too long now. The Springfield I have is heavy and thick so it’s hard to carry these days with getting older. I find myself carrying my .380 more and more, but I’d like to have a larger capacity 9mm for the more rounds and greater knockdown power. There’s a lot to it really and thanks for the feedback.

I'd suggest maybe get the P365.. then just start with buying the XL grip module (and use the standard 365 slide)

 

[Saltwater60]

I'd suggest maybe get the P365.. then just start with buying the XL grip module (and use the standard 365 slide)

That’s not a bad idea. My only concern is actually going the other way. The sig 365xl slide with the sig 365 grip. I’m worried about the balance of the firearm and honestly that would be my preferred combination. Longer slide and shorter grip since I don’t have big hands anyway and I’d get a full grip on the regular 365 grip. Also in NYS we can’t be over 10 rounds anyway so why have the extra grip length if I get my full hand on the grip. Not trying to be difficult and just talking here.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Not trying to be difficult and just talking here.

Not being difficult at all. Shit usually talking it out is usually the best way to figure out the best way actually see what you want and saves unnecessary spending

 

[Saltwater60]

Not being difficult at all. Shit usually talking it out is usually the best way to figure out the best way actually see what you want and saves unnecessary spending

Not that I’m made of money, but I haven’t bought a gun in a few years so I’m due. I e been saving in hopes of guns and ammo coming down so I have some more ey set aside. I’m just looking for what I really want and I think we have hashed that out.

 

[Beerman]

Magazines are not fully interchangeable between the 365 and 365XL grip modules. You can get floor plates to convert a standard 365 mad to fit into an XL grip module. Going the other direction can be done, also, but it takes aftermarket parts. At $50/mag it gets spendy to have multiple mags for each grip type.

 

[Saltwater60]

Magazines are not fully interchangeable between the 365 and 365XL grip modules. You can get floor plates to convert a standard 365 mad to fit into an XL grip module. Going the other direction can be done, also, but it takes aftermarket parts. At $50/mag it gets spendy to have multiple mags for each grip type.

Yes that’s what’s held me up from pulling the trigger so to speak. $50/mag is a lot. I was hoping they would drop down, but haven’t.

 

[Cooolone]

By the time this would be relevant, I will no longer be here in NY!

So...

Fuck NY!!!

 

[Dr. Evil]

Funny, I'm thinking of new state.

 

[Jem45472]

I've been looking at the newer sub compacts myself. After researching, I'm settling on the Taurus gx4 Toro. Do yourself a favor and watch some YouTube reviews. Seems the gx4 gets great reviews across the board. The Toro version has an optic plate.

 

[Saltwater60]

I've been looking at the newer sub compacts myself. After researching, I'm settling on the Taurus gx4 Toro. Do yourself a favor and watch some YouTube reviews. Seems the gx4 gets great reviews across the board. The Toro version has an optic plate.

Thanks but I hate the smith and Wesson tabbed triggers so I’m not sure I’d buy this without fondling it. Nice looking gun and the price is amazing though. I also don’t like the feel and balance of the Springfield hellcat. I like the ruger specs, but haven’t had great luck with rugers lately so I’m avoiding them.

 

[Beerman]

Yes that’s what’s held me up from pulling the trigger so to speak. $50/mag is a lot. I was hoping they would drop down, but haven’t.

Get the 365X. The slide already has the optics cut and you can use 15 rnd magazines if you ever leave NY permanently.

 

[Saltwater60]

Get the 365X. The slide already has the optics cut and you can use 15 rnd magazines if you ever leave NY permanently.

I think that’s the only thing I’m not really considering. I don’t need the longer grip since I have smaller hands and I could get the longer grip module for about $40.00 if I ever wanted or needed it. I want to like the shorter grip with the longer slide, but you can’t test that out. I’m worried about the balance.

 

[Beerman]

I think that’s the only thing I’m not really considering. I don’t need the longer grip since I have smaller hands and I could get the longer grip module for about $40.00 if I ever wanted or needed it. I want to like the shorter grip with the longer slide, but you can’t test that out. I’m worried about the balance.

Just a reminder: swapping gripidukes back & forth requires either magazine floor plate swaps, or separate mags. It’s more than just a $40 swap, even if it is a simple 4 minute drill to change grip modules. I don’t have big hands; I’m certainly no Sasquatch. But handling a 365 and a 365X side by side, there was no comparison. The 365 felt great in my hand. The X, though, felt like Sig made it just for me. Guess which one I bought?

 

[Saltwater60]

Just a reminder: swapping gripidukes back & forth requires either magazine floor plate swaps, or separate mags. It’s more than just a $40 swap, even if it is a simple 4 minute drill to change grip modules. I don’t have big hands; I’m certainly no Sasquatch. But handling a 365 and a 365X side by side, there was no comparison. The 365 felt great in my hand. The X, though, felt like Sig made it just for me. Guess which one I bought?

Maybe I’ll check out the X. The local runnings by me usually has them.

 

[Parzival]

I recently picked up a 365 and carry it here in America with the 12 round mag, so it’s essentially the same size as the X.

I agree with Beerman, the X is my favorite configuration.

 

[Saltwater60]

I got them both and I have to say I really like them both. I don’t like the regular 365 in it’s original format so much so I swapped the slide and barrel and I really like the 365x mix, but I also really love the 365 frame with the longer slide. I ordered the flat trigger for the 365 and I ordered the extended mag release for the 365xl and I love it so I ordered another one for the 365.

 

[Zerex]

Microstamping has another fatal flaw....................range pickup brass is usually reloaded by others or sold on GB.
Obtaining such brass, and disributing it across the country, would surely FU the entire system, like COBIS did.

 

[GTN]

I feel the law to worry about is where you can carry. I’m sure lot of people are going to say a big FU to hochel’s bullshit.
So I feel small guns for better concealment are going to be hard to find and if you do they will be going fast and at a premium price.
Buy small while you can

 

[Beerman]

Microstamping has another fatal flaw....................range pickup brass is usually reloaded by others or sold on GB.
Obtaining such brass, and disributing it across the country, would surely FU the entire system, like COBIS did.

Primer strike imprints the stamp. Once pressed out and reloaded that issue is moot.

 

[GTN]

Primer strike imprints the stamp. Once pressed out and reloaded that issue is moot.

Didn’t know the primer strike made the stamp. How much info can possibly be on that?

 

[fresch]

Revolvers,
Semiautomatic, replace firing pin

 

[Cooolone]

Not sure replacing anything would be considered legal. They've already worded into these laws you cannot do that unless a licensed gunsmith! All bullshit of course! But that's what they'll do... The grandfathered firearms would be with production dates prior to the law. Which is great because they just would increase the value of already circulating stock. But then they could prohibit transfer of grandfathered stock! This is why. SCRUTINY becomes so important! And STRICT scrutiny is needed. Because otherwise it's just an endless game if hurdles to be jumped in order to exercise your 2A Rights. Once one door gets closed, they just fabricate another and lock it tight! Here, by example, creating a law with requirements that don't even exist! Amazing!!!

 

[meketrefe]

My goal is to have enough to have my entire family have enough non-microstamped pistols and we can share them all on the same permits. So my thoughts are I really like the sig 365, but I haven’t had the chance to find and fondle the 365 xl, but that attracts me as well. So here’s the question do I just blindly buy the 365xl since it seems to be the same gun with a longer grip and slide so it should balance or do I just buy multiple 365’s. Also the 365x is just a 365 with the xl grip correct? I know it also has the flat trigger too.
I found the 365 for $499 on GB and that’s not bad. Also does the 365xl mags fit the 365 and so they make an adapter plate for them?

Let me ask you this when the pistol striker or ejector breaks or you swap calibers do you order one with your microstamp?
How does this process work?

 

[Saltwater60]

I feel the law to worry about is where you can carry. I’m sure lot of people are going to say a big FU to hochel’s bullshit.
So I feel small guns for better concealment are going to be hard to find and if you do they will be going fast and at a premium price.
Buy small while you can

I agree with you now, but when the thread was started hochul had not statutes her shit with special places.

 

[Saltwater60]

Primer strike imprints the stamp. Once pressed out and reloaded that issue is moot.

I’m not sure on this one, but in years past they wanted the number stamped in two places, the primer and the shell casing.

 

[Saltwater60]

Let me ask you this when the pistol striker or ejector breaks or you swap calibers do you order one with your microstamp?
How does this process work?

No one knows anything yet. The law hasn’t gone into effect, but I think it will. Right now they are studying the feasibility, aka trying to find some one to take their gun violence prevention money to say they can do microstamping. Once that happens the law will go into effect.

 

[Beerman]

I’m not sure on this one, but in years past they wanted the number stamped in two places, the primer and the shell casing.

It’s gonna take voodoo magic and unicorn dreams to make it viable in this lifetime.