Op-Ed: My city's new gun control laws will help more than waiting on Congress to do something

[byron]

Op-Ed: My city's new gun control laws will help more than waiting on Congress to do something

San Jose will soon require gun owners to purchase liability insurance and to pay annual fees to fund violence-reduction initiatives.

www.yahoo.com

 

[MothMan]

Ain't going to happen, and their city lawyers ought to be telling them that.

 

[tgenec86]

So much stupidity in one article. Every single point this twit made already has a law forbidding or restricting it. How does an officer tell a "lawful" carrier - it's called a permit, you f**king moron, not an insurance policy. Anything else is a penalty.

 

[MothMan]

I guess it will be okay to start charging an entry fee to polling places, cuz it is just to pay the custodians to clean up. By the way which insurance company is offering this coverage??

 

[kev74]

I couldn't make it through the whole article.

I'm sure though that the goatfucker who took the hostages in the temple in Texas would have been stopped if only there was a mandate to buy insurance.

 

[RedBreast21]

So in order to exercise a constitutional right; you have to be able to afford it. Yeah that will get shot down in court. I'm sure the city attorneys has said as much. But this type of city ordinance is all about politics and up coming elections.

 

[jimc]

I can't wait until they provide the numbers showing the HUGE reduction in 'gun violence' this creates...

 

[Saltwater60]

The comparisons are like apples to space ships. He states there are 500 deaths and 26,000 injuries in the USA. Well there are 320 million Americans. This will impact 0.008% of Americans and how many of them live in San Jose? Probably none of them. San Jose has more crime Al gun acts and he states these will impact those as well? No they won’t
Then he compares this to auto accidents over the last 50 years. That’s first assuming no one stores their guns properly when you make that comparison. Also he is forgetting about all the technological advances that cars made. He’s only comparing the reduction in insurance costs.
Why don’t they start paying for free gun training classes if that’s what they want. They don’t want that. They want when I die that my wife or kids don’t want to pay the liability insurance and hand my guns to the cops. Watch every LEO a will be expect from this.
The stupidity of the comparisons is just astounding and people eat this shit up like he’s a hero.
So who is going to hold this liability insurance? The government? Is the a backdoor gun registration? If not the government how will it find what they are saying it will? I hope this get challenged or NYS will do it soon.

 

[Saltwater60]

Then there is this, full on communism. I’d travel outside the city limits to buy a gun.
Earlier this month, city lawmakers passed a new law requiring all retailers to record video and audio of all firearm purchases. San Jose became the largest California city with such a rule.

 

[stokes]

Watch every LEO a will be expect from this.

LEO's are already insured via indemnification by the dept.When we retire we are required to jump thru all the hoops everybody else has to.

 

[Saltwater60]

LEO's are already insured via indemnification by the dept.When we retire we are required to jump thru all the hoops everybody else has to.

It was supposed to say exempt from the insurance liability law.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Because the greatest amount of gun crime is caused by the people least likely to buy the insurance? I can see drug dealers and gangbangers lining up at city hall to pay their fees. Follow the statistics ya morons.

 

[stokes]

It was supposed to say exempt from the insurance liability law.

Yeah, I got that, I was just pointing out that there is no reason to "exempt" LEO's , when active they are covered by insurance, its called indemnified,basically insurance.Once retired we have to abide by the same laws a non LEO does.

 

[spat]

Op-Ed: My city's new gun control laws will help more than waiting on Congress to do something

San Jose will soon require gun owners to purchase liability insurance and to pay annual fees to fund violence-reduction initiatives.

www.yahoo.com

Can we require voting insurance ?

In case a bunch of morons elect some dimwit that crashes the economy ?

 

[Deplorable Me]

Can we require voting insurance ?

In case a bunch of morons elect some dimwit that crashes the economy ?

Too late. Shit already gone down.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I couldn't make it through the whole article.

You did better than me. I wouldn't even read it.

 

[spat]

Too late. Shit already gone down.

I think it's just getting started.

 

[Grimscale]

Can we require voting insurance ?

I suggest we also require verbal insurance to post anything on social media. a new policy or rider for every post. Just in case you say something that someone else might not like.
And insurance for when you plead the 5th. In case you are actually guilty and they have to investigate it.

I can go on like this all day.

Then we can get around to racial insurance, to reduce whatever negative trait is in vogue for that particular race that day.

 

[GOPerfect]

My gods man, what ever they are going to do, I wish they would stop fucking talking about and just do it.

C'mon, show your worth...

Pass all of this shit. Do it! Do it now!!

 

[Saltwater60]

Yeah, I got that, I was just pointing out that there is no reason to "exempt" LEO's , when active they are covered by insurance, its called indemnified,basically insurance.Once retired we have to abide by the same laws a non LEO does.

Correct, but many LEO’s have personal firearms while actively employed and I don’t think that insurance or indemnity transfer to LEOs when not working?

 

[stokes]

Correct, but many LEO’s have personal firearms while actively employed and I don’t think that insurance or indemnity transfer to LEOs when not working?

You are indemnified if you use an approved weapon, on duty or off.Back in the days when we carried revolvers we could request approval to carry a semi off duty,if approved you'd be indemnified with that weapon off duty.

 

[Blimey]

two requirements for gun owners that no city or state in the U.S. has ever implemented: the purchase of liability insurance and the payment of annual fees to fund violence-reduction initiatives.

Sounds like a tall order to get this past SCOTUS. Analogous to making those who want to exercise 1st amendment pay into a fund each year that covers civil cases for libel.

 

[jimc]

Sounds like a tall order to get this past SCOTUS. Analogous to making those who want to exercise 1st amendment pay into a fund each year that covers civil cases for libel.

The sad part is the people who fund the case against the gov will be also be paying for the gov's defense. The people who wrote and passed the law will suffer no repercussions.

 

[Apeman]

Not trying to knock Leo's but it's horseshit if they're exempt if they own personal firearms. When they're using their personal weapons off duty they're the same as a civilian as far as this bullshit law is concerned. A kid could get his hands on one just the same as he could in a civilian home. They could have an accidental discharge and hit someone. Those things aren't likely but they're also not likely to happen in a civilian home if the owner has at least some common sense - which is obviously something this mayor does not have

 

[stokes]

Not trying to knock Leo's but it's horseshit if they're exempt if they own personal firearms. When they're using their personal weapons off duty they're the same as a civilian as far as this bullshit law is concerned. A kid could get his hands on one just the same as he could in a civilian home. They could have an accidental discharge and hit someone. Those things aren't likely but they're also not likely to happen in a civilian home if the owner has at least some common sense - which is obviously something this mayor does not have

As I already said, there is no need to give leo an exemption.At least not with most depts.I have heard that some depts require you to have a CCW permit, in my case, I wasnt allowed to have any kind of permit,even had to surrender my NYC rifle permit.Technically, if I was to use a gun off duty that wasnt officially approved, as long as I legally owned it,and the only way to legally own it is via the job, when it all washed out as long as it was a good shoot, I'd be indemnified.A bad shoot with your duty weapon would not be covered.I dont have any knowledge about depts that require a permit or allow their members to have one or how they are indemnified.As far as kid in the house getting his hands on one, he better have gotten it out of a lock box or secured safe or you will not be indemnified.

 

[spat]

Sounds like a tall order to get this past SCOTUS. Analogous to making those who want to exercise 1st amendment pay into a fund each year that covers civil cases for libel.

Sure, in a decade SCOTUS will strike it down.

*after* it has done it's damage

Then they'll pass a new infringement for the next decade.

The system has failed.