NYSP FAQ on new gun laws (concealed carry, possession and semi auto rifle)

[nortatoga]

That's not how I read it, but with the way they write these things, I'm sure the ambiguity is intentional

** (c) A license to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic
rifle as defined in subdivision two of this section shall be recertified
to the applicable licensing officer every five years following the
issuance of such license.

The Licensing officer will have a record.

 

[nortatoga]

I should have reposted the whole paragraph..

Failure to renew such a license shall be a
violation punishable by a fine not to exceed two hundred fifty dollars,
and such failure to renew shall be considered by the licensing officer
when reviewing future license applications by the license holder
pursuant to this chapter.

 

[camper4lyfe]

** (c) A license to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic
rifle as defined in subdivision two of this section shall be recertified
to the applicable licensing officer every five years following the
issuance of such license.

The Licensing officer will have a record.

of the license, not the firearms

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

 

[fresch]

of the license, not the firearms

Hahaha, think so?

 

[nortatoga]

of the license, not the firearms

Q19) How do I apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License? A) Starting September 4, 2022, you may apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License through your county/local licensing officer. Existing firearm license holders can add a Semi-Automatic Rifle to their firearm license through their local licensing officer

Notice it says "add"

 

[camper4lyfe]

Q19) How do I apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License? A) Starting September 4, 2022, you may apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License through your county/local licensing officer. Existing firearm license holders can add a Semi-Automatic Rifle to their firearm license through their local licensing officer

Notice it says "add"

Right, but that's the NYSP Q&A, not the actual law.

 

[subsonic]

Q19) How do I apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License? A) Starting September 4, 2022, you may apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License through your county/local licensing officer. Existing firearm license holders can add a Semi-Automatic Rifle to their firearm license through their local licensing officer

Notice it says "add"

there's missing or implied words after "rifle". They are referring to the SAR license, basically an endorsement on your permit. That appears to be how NYSP is handling this law. Like you can get a commercial or motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license. Looks like you just have to ask your judge for it and should get it if you have a pistol permit in good standing already.

However, as I previously posted, although the "licensing officer" won't get a record of your rifle when you purchase it, the state police will get the in batches from the FFL later that same year. Not just semi-automatic rifles but Joe Biden's double-barrel shotguns and Elmer Fudd's previously unregulated muzzleloader. So by another means gun registration for all transferred firearms has arrived in New York going forward. And if you have any of these licenses the state may decide to come inventory and grab any unregistered guns for wrongthink when they decide to yoink or audit your license down the road.

 

[CaliberPlus]

Subsonic, do you run a store? You have a better grasp on this than most. I have spent several hours of my life reading the "laws" set out. The one impacting FFL's, S4970A, which takes effect in Dec has far reaching impacts on gun holders and FFL's alike. Since I have a dog in this fight I have been following this very closely. The paperwork load I face if we stay open is beyond burdensome and definitely is a registry.

The Q&A is nice. I feel blessed that we plebs get some clarification from TPTB a few days prior to the laws starting. (Sarcasm) Keep in mind Bruen is a Cuomo appointee and is a LAWYER, not a cop. Go to his professional page, not a word about being a cop. Hand that feeds seems to apply.

Nice that recertify and renew are clarified. It almost looks like an attempt to backtrack.

Something to ponder, with the push on the Red Flag laws, the rifle license makes it that much easier to confiscate guns, all guns. With a registry, which is where we are headed, it will be a case of look at the database.

Just an aside, I cannot find any FUKH signs, Google does not bring them up. I will post a sign saying firearms welcome in store, which I find absolutely ludicrous. Gusmith on premises, of course you can bring a gun in.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Saltwater60]

I spoke with my FFL last night and he knew nothing of the new ammo background check and knew nothing of the semi automatic license. He said no one has told him anything and he knows nothing of it or how it will be implemented.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I keep thinking of their definition of "semi-auto" and relate it to "assault weapons" in terms of how to skirt around it. Obviously defining a pistol is fairly clear since barrel length and weight are two definig characteristics. They banned "assault weapons" and defined them as having certain features, which people just modified the rifle enough not to have them. So now we have "semi-auto" rifles being defined. I assume they are "any rifle capable of firing without manually cycling a bolt...a rifle that can fire each time the trigger is pulled". Okay then, so what if a semi-auto is modified so it cannot do those things? We modify magazines to "fix" them, so why not modify a semi-auto and prevent it from cycling another round. Disable the gas system, remove a spring, or any other means of "fixing" the problem. The people that write these laws are morons that have no clue how firearms work.

 

[CaliberPlus]

I spoke with my FFL last night and he knew nothing of the new ammo background check and knew nothing of the semi automatic license. He said no one has told him anything and he knows nothing of it or how it will be implemented.

That is because there is NO system in NY to notify FFL's, at least that I know of. The ATF has one, by phone and email. Most everything on a state basisis is a secret. I called the permit division in Albany a few weeks back, got the PC answer, it is being worked on. That is really helpful and I kind of doubt I could use that answer as a defense.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Failure to renew such a license shall be a
violation punishable by a fine not to exceed two hundred fifty dollars,
and such failure to renew shall be considered by the licensing officer
when reviewing future license applications by the license holder
pursuant to this chapter.

Makes no sense.
Why should I renew a license-to-purchase if I don't intend to purchase one in the next few years?
Why should I be fined simply because I see no purchases in the next few years?
Why should the licensing officer penalize me for not buying a semi-auto every few years?

Here's a better idea - they can go fuck themselves.

 

[Celt]

Does it get any more infringed than this?

 

[Tisto]

Does it get any more infringed than this?

Yes.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yes.

Best movie ever

 

[Dr. Evil]

Does it get any more infringed than this?

Please don't ask that in this state.

 

[togmaster]

Best movie ever

#2. Blazing Saddles is #1.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

#2. Blazing Saddles is #1.

#3. History of the World is #2.

 

[Edwardteach72]

#3. History of the World is #2.

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Solid fucking entry.. brb checking to see if part 2 the TV series is still happening

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