Michigan GOP tells election workers to break local rules

Vantrepes · Sep 7, 2022

So cell phones were banned?
Was this ban a new rule, or has it been in place for a few cycles?
The article mentions the "trainer" saying the constraints were illegal, but doesn't go into any detail after that.
No phones, no video. No video, no proof when shit goes sideways.
I guess pens being banned makes some sense, if there are no pens, there's no way for anyone to modify a ballot. If you want to take notes, use a pencil and pad. Or was the ban on taking notes of any kind?

As for the second story, scumbag got caught claiming SS, and working. That's what he was pleading guilty for. The election shit he pulled has yet to be addressed 4+ years later..... Seems like a pretty basic case, why the hell is it taking 4 years to bring him to trial for it?

Darth · Sep 7, 2022

Was Hillary doing the exact same thing in 2016 projection as well, or was that *rephrase in some manner to gloss over it*?

Saltwater60 · Sep 7, 2022

ronstar said:
The second link I posted is an older story.

Point is, seems like all the election fraud being committed is by Republicans, not Democrats. Maybe their yelling & screaming about election fraud is just Freudian projection.

The only legitimate claims about the 2020 Presidential election were NOT fraud, but judges and Governors making late decisions to adjust voting rules to deal with Covid, late mail delivery, long voting lines, ballots missing insignificant details, etc. But of course it was OK for Republican Governors to make last minute election rule changes, just not Democrats. That's why they didn't care about the last minute changes made by the Republican Governor in Texas, contrary to the rules made by the Texas legislature.

So this is election fraud? Bringing a cell phone and a pen and pad to take notes is election fraud? Seriously man wake up. How can a cell phone be used to commit election fraud? There are no pens at polling places already? Every time I’ve ever voted there have been pens there.
The article has nothing to do with election fraud and just says the broke the polling place rules. Do I support it no. Funny how you liberal project things and make shit up all the time.

Vantrepes · Sep 7, 2022

Um.... cough, cough:

Dem Rep Pleads Guilty to Mass Voter Fraud: Thousands of Dollars Paid to Crooked Judges

That such an elaborate scheme existed for a long time raises questions of whether such schemes existed in the 2020 presidential elections.

www.westernjournal.com

He got busted, then went back to it, year after year....

Anyone who screws with a vote needs to be dealt with, no matter which party they are from. Yes, there are shit people on both sides, find them, put them on trial, then, if found guilty, make an example of them.

As for Texas, I had to read up on that one a bit (a very little bit)....

On October 5, Texas Governor Greg Abbott issued a proclamation under the Texas Disaster Act limiting each county to a single drop-off location for mail ballots.[44] Federal judge Robert Pitman blocked Abbott's order on October 9.[45] The next day, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton appealed to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals for an emergency stay of Pitman's ruling, which a three-judge motion panel temporarily granted on an interim basis, pending consideration of the appeal on the merits.[46] A Texas state judge also blocked Abbott's order on October 15, and a state appeals court upheld that decision on October 23. Attorney General Ken Paxton then sought emergency relief from the Texas Supreme Court, which backed the Governor and lifting the temporary injunction in an October 27 decision with no dissent.[47][48][49]

Source (yeah, I know. I said a little bit): 2020 United States presidential election in Texas - Wikipedia

So Abbott said "Pick a spot for mail in ballots to be dropped off so there's less chance of fuckery" and that's election fraud? They extended the early voting by six days, and allowed mail in ballots to be dropped off instead of mailed in (which would create a time trail for them), but somehow limiting it to one spot is election fraud? How about you just mail the fucking thing? You want to make sure it gets there in time? Next-Day Air it, with tracking, or send it registered mail.
He didn't limit the number of polling places, or the access of people to actually mail in the ballots, just where prefilled ballots could be dropped off

Did a little more digging. Turns out the rule for absentee vote counting was updated in October of 2020.

Cell Phones: Challengers and poll watchers may not be in possession of or have access to cell phones or other communication devices in an AVCB during the sequestration period. The enforcement of this policy is critical to the integrity of the election process.

Source: https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Pr...ards.pdf?rev=1de3a8812a1f4ed49b07fe0653b74ac2
Looks like the point is to prevent someone from phoning home with how many votes they need, and padding the numbers.... Of course, that doesn't stop the officials from doing it, as that rule only seems to apply to the poll watchers.

So, phones are explicitly banned as communications devices, but cameras are not. Time to follow the rules, dust off the Go-Pro, and record history without breaking their rules.

Cooolone · Sep 7, 2022

The FRAUD that was committed was the Democratic Committees changing election processes outside what the State law allowed! Committees cannot change law, but they did...

Rules aren't law! Unless it was unlawful to bring those items into a voting area (I doubt it) then stop crying.

Want to talk about those paid actors who were given various drop box locations for the stacks of absentee ballots they had? Yeah, Democrats... We can go on!

Besides! Your fearless leader has proclaimed that nobody is going to steal ANOTHER election...

A Freudian Slip of the Lip, because he WON, but probably forgot the complicity in stealing the election he had won... Lmfao!

Acer-m14 · Sep 8, 2022

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Acer-m14 · Sep 8, 2022

Carlos Hathcock · Sep 8, 2022

Republicans bring their cell phone. Dems bring their UHaul.

dsdmmat · Sep 8, 2022

ronstar said:
The second link I posted is an older story.

Point is, seems like all the election fraud being committed is by Republicans, not Democrats. Maybe their yelling & screaming about election fraud is just Freudian projection.

The only legitimate claims about the 2020 Presidential election were NOT fraud, but judges and Governors making late decisions to adjust voting rules to deal with Covid, late mail delivery, long voting lines, ballots missing insignificant details, etc. But of course it was OK for Republican Governors to make last minute election rule changes, just not Democrats. That's why they didn't care about the last minute changes made by the Republican Governor in Texas, contrary to the rules made by the Texas legislature.

All is a mighty big and unsubstantiated claim. All the ones you chose to post a person working for the Republican candidate or party were featured in the story. I have no doubt there is fraud in every election. I seriously doubt only one party is responsible for it all. If Republican’s were the only ones committing fraud why are they not in power? Seems like a dubious claim at best.

Paxal · Sep 8, 2022

ronstar said:
The second link I posted is an older story.

Point is, seems like all the election fraud being committed is by Republicans, not Democrats. Maybe their yelling & screaming about election fraud is just Freudian projection.

The only legitimate claims about the 2020 Presidential election were NOT fraud, but judges and Governors making late decisions to adjust voting rules to deal with Covid, late mail delivery, long voting lines, ballots missing insignificant details, etc. But of course it was OK for Republican Governors to make last minute election rule changes, just not Democrats. That's why they didn't care about the last minute changes made by the Republican Governor in Texas, contrary to the rules made by the Texas legislature.

Actually it doesnt seem like that at all. Try to contain the hype.

GTN · Sep 8, 2022

ronstar said:
Trump fans tried to send FAKE electors to certify state election results and tried to send FAKE certified electoral votes to Congress. That's major fraud. All involved must be prosecuted for federal election fraud.

Do you have links to prove this?

dsdmmat · Sep 10, 2022

ronstar said:
wow, you dont pay attention to the news much huh?

Still didn’t answer his question.

GTN · Sep 10, 2022

GTN said:
Do you have links to prove this?

Just

ronstar said:
wow, you dont pay attention to the news much huh?

so in other words no you have no links.
you’re just like my brother. Make a statement and when asked for links to read about your opinion I get shit. Why are you here?

dsdmmat · Sep 10, 2022

ronstar said:
Fake Electors plots:

The Fake Electors Scheme, Explained (Published 2022)

The plan to reverse the outcome of the 2020 election by creating slates of electors pledged to Donald Trump in states he had lost was expansive, long-running and often confusing.

www.nytimes.com

Do you have a link not behind a paywall? I am interested in reading it but not paying for a subscription to the NYT.

dsdmmat · Sep 10, 2022

thanks I got the 2nd link to work.

dsdmmat · Sep 10, 2022

ronstar said:
Fake Electors May Provide Easiest Path for DOJ to Charge Trump

As Congressional hearings into Jan. 6 pause for an August break, the focus turns to the US Justice Department, which must decide whether to prosecute former President Donald Trump.

www.bloomberg.com

Ok I read through it and it actually does not claim to prove anything. It makes assumptions based upon the Jan 6th commission. Which is like saying Proof is provided by the Steele Dossier. Taking anything the Jan 6th commission finds as gospel is akin to citing Wikipedia as a source on a college paper.

But thanks for the link.

GTN · Sep 10, 2022

dsdmmat said:
Ok I read through it and it actually does not claim to prove anything. It makes assumptions based upon the Jan 6th commission. Which is like saying Proof is provided by the Steele Dossier. Taking anything the Jan 6th commission finds as gospel is akin to citing Wikipedia as a source on a college paper.

But thanks for the link.

That’s what I figured

Celt · Sep 10, 2022

Thats like a murderer saying hes no different than the guy who pushed someone and gets arrested for assault. Telling people to keep notes (likely to catch the lefties cheating) is a far cry from trucking in hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes.

@ronstar , you are the very definition of a delusional leftist. You claim to he a 2a supporter yet you are a leftist. Im not sure how you reconcile that in your brain.

Not that many of todays republicans are much better, but the entire political spectrum has slid so far left that a moderate repub is more like yesterdays moderate democrat, and what the left calls extreme right wing is like yesterdays moderate repub. Calling people extreme right wing is just a political tactic to polarize people.

dsdmmat · Sep 10, 2022

Celt said:
Thats like a murderer saying hes no different than the guy who pushed someone and gets arrested for assault. Telling people to keep notes (likely to catch the lefties cheating) is a far cry from trucking in hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes.

@ronstar , you are the very definition of a delusional leftist. You claim to he a 2a supporter yet you are a leftist. Im not sure how you reconcile that in your brain.

Not that many of todays republicans are much better, but the entire political spectrum has slid so far left that a moderate repub is more like yesterdays moderate democrat, and what the left calls extreme right wing is like yesterdays moderate repub. Calling people extreme right wing is just a political tactic to polarize people.

Washington has gone from Democrat and Republicans to marxist and low sodium socialist.

Celt · Sep 10, 2022

ronstar said:
Baseless nonsense, rejected by every judge who saw it. Including Trump-appointed judges.

Its not, but ok.

Celt · Sep 10, 2022

ronstar said:
Sending fake electors to Congress and the National Archives is massive fraud and all involved must be prosecuted.

Any legitimate election fraud should be prosecuted fairly and swiftly, regardless who is committing it.

But fair prosecutions dont seem to be happening, it seems pretty one sided.

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