Broome County restrictions stand

[FrankenCub]

Just got back from the Sheriff Dept to get everything going to change from the junk paper permit to the plastic card.
Asked them with this mess NY is in, which everyone laughed, if Broome is now removing restrictions like other counties are. Im still restricted. Was told restrictions stand until taken an approved CC course, per judge.
Down to 4 approved courses now. Waiting to hear from 2 of them.
Be prepared to bring your favorite lube to the course if you want a permit.

Rochester Personal Defense....... $375
PS&ED...... $340
CCB Training and Consulting... yet to hear
Top Gun Training .... $500


Updated Top Gun
I'll update when they contact me.
I'm seriously considering moving over $400. Fuck NY

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Just got back from the Sheriff Dept to get everything going to change from the junk paper permit to the plastic card.
Asked them with this mess NY is in, which everyone laughed, if Broome is now removing restrictions like other counties are. Im still restricted. Was told restrictions stand until taken an approved CC course, per judge.
Down to 4 approved courses now. Waiting to hear from 2 of them.
Be prepared to bring your favorite lube to the course if you want a permit.

Rochester Personal Defense....... $375
PS&ED...... $340
CCB Training and Consulting... yet to hear
Top Gun Training .... yet to hear

I'll update when they contact me.
I'm seriously considering moving over $400. Fuck NY

Might be less expensive (and more satisfying) to file a suit against the county; the licensing officer, and whoever else, for violation of your rights under color of law in light of the Bruen decision. Be sure to sue for damages too?

 

[FrankenCub]

Might be less expensive (and more satisfying) to file a suit against the county; the licensing officer, and whoever else, for violation of your rights under color of law in light of the Bruen decision. Be sure to sue for damages too?

Be less expensive to rent a fuckin U-Haul

 

[1075tech]

Be less expensive to rent a fuckin U-Haul

Only if you're going to return it to NY. One way out of NY is 4x or more than "normal" rentals. Supply and demand

 

[FrankenCub]

Only if you're going to return it to NY. One way out of NY is 4x or more than "normal" rentals. Supply and demand

Almost wouldn't be opposed to that. Leave my bike here and ride off into the sunset after returning the get away hauler

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Only if you're going to return it to NY. One way out of NY is 4x or more than "normal" rentals. Supply and demand

When I moved my possessions from Buffalo to Charlotte, the costs to rent one way out of NY were insane. So, I rented one way from Pittsburgh to Charlotte with unlimited mileage instead.

Even after flying one way from Charlotte to Pittsburgh, and then driving the truck from Pittsburgh to Buffalo empty, and then loading it up and taking it down to Charlotte, it cost less than half of what it would have cost to rent one way from Buffalo to Charlotte.

 

[1075tech]

Same here. It would have been $2800 one way with a 26' truck. In the reverse direction it would have been $600.

Including fuel, food, and hotel, I moved everything myself for less than 2k over 5 trips.

 

[Saltwater60]

Honestly I’m not surprised that they are doing this. I’m so glad this law was challenged because were so much better off now/sarcasm abounds.
I’m thinking I’m going to have my wife file for a premise, target, and hunting permit very soon because I think her application will fly through before all this training bullshit gets underway. If we wait it will be years.

 

[FrankenCub]

Honestly I’m not surprised that they are doing this. I’m so glad this law was challenged because were so much better off now/sarcasm abounds.
I’m thinking I’m going to have my wife file for a premise, target, and hunting permit very soon because I think her application will fly through before all this training bullshit gets underway. If we wait it will be years.

Pretty sure the new training requirements are required now throughout NY. If I didn't have restrictions I wouldn't be needing it. All new permits will need it.
Unless of course there's a parting of the sea and it gets smacked down in court.

 

[FrankenCub]

I can't even afford to move if I wanted. If I sold everything I may be up $40k, but to buy anything it's going to be bare property. Which I won't be able to do anything with unless I want to live in a camper.

 

[Saltwater60]

Pretty sure the new training requirements are required now throughout NY. If I didn't have restrictions I wouldn't be needing it. All new permits will need it.
Unless of course there's a parting of the sea and it gets smacked down in court.

Nope. It’s specific to concealed carry permit and same with the 3 year recertification. In the state police FAQ’s it’s specifies that premise permits are exempt from this new law.

How does the new law impact the recertification due date of my pistol or revolver license?​

If you have a New York State concealed carry license, you are now required to submit your recertification to the New York State Police every 3 years after issuance instead of 5 years.

The new law does not change the recertification requirements for a premises license, which must be recertified every 5 years.

If I only want a firearm in my residence and do not want to carry concealed, do I still have to take the firearm safety training?​

No. Premises license holders are not required to take the firearm safety training course. The firearm safety training course requirement applies to concealed carry licenses.

Who is required to take the new firearm safety training course?​

Any individual who seeks to obtain a concealed carry license for a pistol or revolver will be required to take the 16-hour classroom and 2-hour live-fire firearm safety training course. This will be required for concealed carry licenses issued on or after September 1, 2022.

Individuals renewing their license in New York City or Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk counties must complete the training.

 

[FrankenCub]

I didn't catch the premise permit part you mentioned. I don't think they even offer that up here. It's CC with target/hunting restriction.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Almost wouldn't be opposed to that. Leave my bike here and ride off into the sunset after returning the get away hauler

That would be an epic exit! I’m taking notes for my own exit, which is going to occur as soon as I can whether or not my wife is onboard at this point.

 

[Cooolone]

Well...

I'm looking for the 16hr Voting Course to take so I can vote in the midterms! Can't find it anywhere!

Also, have yet to find that 16hr course on English/Journalism for my postings to social media...

Hmmmmm... Confused!

How about that 16hr course on the Bill of Rights in order to exercise any of them!?!?

If denied on the basis of ANY of the new hurdles contained within the UNCONSTITUTIONAL law the State of NY passed in order to punish them for the actions go the SCOTUS ruling in BRUEN, I would absolutely accept the denial and then file and appeal along with notice of intent to sue every single MF'r associated with the denial!

The chicken shit Federal Judge basically said you need to have standing to sue, so until these denials start happening, nothing changes. But I guarantee, not a single case will make it inside a courtroom!

Good Luck!

Fuck NY!

 

[Acer-m14]

Just got back from the Sheriff Dept to get everything going to change from the junk paper permit to the plastic card.
Asked them with this mess NY is in, which everyone laughed, if Broome is now removing restrictions like other counties are. Im still restricted. Was told restrictions stand until taken an approved CC course, per judge.
Down to 4 approved courses now. Waiting to hear from 2 of them.
Be prepared to bring your favorite lube to the course if you want a permit.

Rochester Personal Defense....... $375
PS&ED...... $340
CCB Training and Consulting... yet to hear
Top Gun Training .... $500


Updated Top Gun
I'll update when they contact me.
I'm seriously considering moving over $400. Fuck NY

how much is a voting permit and what training will be needed ?? everyone should be asking the permit office ..

target , hunting , ect ... Restrictions were not in the bruen case .. .. its Shall Issue now .. show good cause is gone .. oh show good moral character now Please .. witch should show that now to keep office ..

here is my name .. give me my permit .. done deal .. or were constitutional carry

 

[byron]

how much is a voting permit and what training will be needed ?? everyone should be asking the permit office ..

target , hunting , ect ... Restrictions were not in the bruen case .. .. its Shall Issue now .. show good cause is gone .. oh show good moral character now Please .. witch should show that now to keep office ..

here is my name .. give me my permit .. done deal .. or were constitutional carry

(Restrictions were not in the bruen case ) Its right at the beginning (residents who both applied for unrestricted licenses to carry a handgun in public based on their generalized interest in self-defense.)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

 

[nortatoga]

I just called the Saratoga County Pistol License Office, and the only thing needed is a amendment for a new License and $23.00 to upgrade to Carry Concealed, Still goes before the Judge but NO class needed.

 

[Acer-m14]

(residents who both applied for unrestricted licenses to carry a handgun in public based on their generalized interest in self-defense.)

thats for the line on why you want the permit ..
... PP Form .. why do you need a pistol ....... for self defense .. all lawful purposes .. "May Issue"

the reason you you want to CC a pistol .. all permits are CCW ..

then the judge says ok .. or not or just makes shit up .. ok .. here is your CCW but its only for target shooting , hiking and hunting ..

the bruen case was for the good reason you needed to show .. "May Issue" permit

all this changing "target shooting , hiking and hunting .. ext" restrictions to full CCW .. is a feels good feeling there pushing .. were doing something ..

don't worry in 3 yrs ... to renew u will give up your social media and your next born child ..

 

[Acer-m14]

I just called the Saratoga County Pistol License Office, and the only thing needed is a amendment for a new License and $23.00 to upgrade to Carry Concealed, Still goes before the Judge but NO class needed.

23 bucks .. i'll have to think on that ..

I'll stick to Constitutional Carry in Saratoga County then ..

 

[HIghlander]

@ FrankenCub.. Did you have any hassles with just replacing paper for plastic Permit?

 

[Saltwater60]

I just called the Saratoga County Pistol License Office, and the only thing needed is a amendment for a new License and $23.00 to upgrade to Carry Concealed, Still goes before the Judge but NO class needed.

So again vastly different rules, great

 

[HIghlander]

So again vastly different rules, great

I think it depends on the County population.

 

[FrankenCub]

@ FrankenCub.. Did you have any hassles with just replacing paper for plastic Permit?

No, they said call in 3 or 4 weeks, should be ready then. They want drivers license number now, want to bet its going to be tied together? They'll be asking during traffic stops now.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

No, they said call in 3 or 4 weeks, should be ready then. They want drivers license number now, want to bet its going to be tied together? They'll be asking during traffic stops now.

It is already tied together,- they know when they stop you. Several police officers I was friendly with back in the day told me that they knew back in the day when they stopped you. Hell, NYS actually even turned over their database of handgun owners to Canada. Right after I had gotten my NY CCW, I went over to Ft. Erie, and Canadian Customs gave me a pile of shit about being a gun owner, and demanded to know if I was bringing any of my guns into Canada with me that day.

I told their officer: “No sweetheart,- I left them home today. Just for YOU!”

 

[nortatoga]

No, they said call in 3 or 4 weeks, should be ready then. They want drivers license number now, want to bet its going to be tied together? They'll be asking during traffic stops now.

You're driver's license is required on the recertification form.