Things are heating up in the Donbass

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GOPerfect said:
All I can say is to read through all of these pages. From their point of view, and for their reasons, they were justified in their actions.

I am one that agrees with their reasons. The Russians have outlined openly, why they conducted and continue to conduct these exercises.

I have supported Russia in this adventure from the beginning. I do not support what the Ukraine has done in the past ten years or so. This was and is their doing.
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I agree. There is so much missing context and deception put out by the West that it is hard work to arrive at an opinion. The West over time has clearly encroached on Russia, bringing in new countries into NATO since 1989. The situation now similar the 1962 Cuban missile crisis that brought us to the brink of WW3. Except Russia is being asked to accept misslies 290 miles from Moscow and not 1100 miles from D.C.

Most Americans at the start of this were and are unaware the 2014 overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych and Russian elected president of Ukraine. An operation conducted by the CIA with the full knowledge of the WH. Since that time, Ukraine's military and far right wing units like the AZOV units have been killing ethnic Russian in eastern Ukraine for 8 years without any coverage by western media. This entire war is 9 years old with the U.S. and the EU providing assistance for that ethnic cleansing operation. Pure madness. Check out Ukraine On Fire documentary and then its counter narrative Winter On Fire. The latter a poor attempt to counter the truth. As of the summer 2022, Ukraine On Fire has been removed from many platforms. That means you need to see it. VICE news did a piece on it in 2018 where they went looking for the so called civil war in Ukraine. Expecting not to find it, they were surprised that it was raging in full view of the world. The power of suppression.
 
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Pushback: The Folly Of Ukraine

"Wake up America; the road we're on leads to WWIII, and with a supply chain that is incapable of fighting said war as one of our opponents will cut it off, never mind that everyone involved has nuclear weapons and someone, eventually, will use them. In the meantime the money we've wasted thus far over there could have absolutely sealed off the entire southern border against all illegal crossings, provided two years of community college to every single graduating senior who can do the work at no cost and had plenty left over (to, for example, replace the lead water feeder pipes that still exist into homes and businesses.)

Rather than do any of that we're taking actions that could easily lead to our cities -- and people -- glowing in the dark."
 
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Zelensky officials are now openly talking about a possible 'strategic pullback' from the besieged eastern city of Bakhmut. This comes after Zelensky himself said he's not ready to order a continued defense of the city at all costs. By all accounts both sides are suffering huge casualties, but Russia has the superior artillery fire, which has been sustained around the clock, also as Kremlin forces have the city almost completely surrounded. According to The Hill:

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A Ukrainian presidential adviser on Tuesday said troops may "strategically pull back" from the town of Bakhmut, the focus of intense and brutal fighting for the past few months.
Alexander Rodnyansky told CNN the Ukrainian army has not yet pulled out of the city, but Kyiv may soon decide the cost of holding Bakhmut “outweighs the benefits.”
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Bakmut is pretty much cut off , the Russians have them almost entirely cut off from supplies and food. If the coke head was going to have them pull out at a later date ,He cant. Hes full of shit. anyone in that pocket is now trapped or will be in a day or two

Zelensky is buying time with the lives of his men . The russians will just pound them into the dirt with artillery like they did at Mariupol

Bakhmut is Kaput
 
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The US Air Force Air Mobility Command decided to remove identification marks from its aircraft (transports, tankers, etc.). Aircraft will now fly without US Air Force inscriptions, unit identification marks, tail numbers, and other identifiers.

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prambo said:
Zelensky Floats 'Strategic Pullback' From Bakhmut After Pouring In Huge Amount Of Reserve Forces | ZeroHedge

"...a retired American Marine fighting in Ukraine told ABC News this week that the frontlines are a "meat grinder" where soldiers survive an average of "four hours."
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Sorry Prambo .. not at you ..

but every time i hear "retired" Marine , Army .. you name it .. linked with some MSM news ..

they are a Disgrace and a joke

retired Lieutenant General Mark Hertling.

 
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