Rising tide of pot-crazed lunatics

[Modean]

I think I caught a contact buzz this morning while bringing a customer's truck into the shop. LOL

The thing is, this guy has money and is squared away. Definitely not a loser.
Yeah, I know, blah blah blah... LOL

If someone is going to be successful in life. Smoking weed isn't going to change that.
If someone is going to be a loser in life. They would probably be a loser weed or no weed.

A great many people use cannabis the same way many use alcohol. A relaxant after work, and a bit of fun on the weekend. You never knew unless you were in their social circle. I guarantee you that each one of you knows several people in this category.

 

[DoOver]

No weed and no jabs.
But im a bad one to ask.......
I do not use tobacco, I dont drink, I dont use caffeine, no illicit drugs....
Im a LOT of fun.
However, growing up in the country, I smoked a LOT of weed.
I then graduated Penn State and Cornell University with a "nearly" 4.0 grade average.
And made it through Army BT and a couple military schools.
No schizophrenia, no munchies and no other ill affects.
And none of the many weed smokers I know and have known have not suffered schizophrenia.

To be completely honest, I do occasionally smoke a cigar and a pipe.

How do youse know??

Ain't you never seen that Shutter Island movie??

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Um, roll and if he was from NY he'd be on a bagel.

Therefore the more movies Cage makes the more bagel production goes up. Makes sense

 

[Zerex]

I worked in the medical field for some time. I handled anumber of people who smoked pot and had that psychotic reaction...panic attacks, go calm, and then go frantic....go calm, go frantic... and were caught running aimlessly trying to get straight........this minority ended up on thorazine..........some claimed the pot was laced with PCP, but no trace of PCP tranquilizer was ever found in those sad cases.

10%

Unfortunately I know of 4 local cases of college educated slugs, who essentially destroyed their lives, likely from chronic pot use.

One was a Cornell educated Lawyer who kept failing in the law....hard to do..slow mentally from pot, and a chronic partier....another director of a Rehab clinic who over the years had such a short fuse that he had to retire at age 52, or be fired for his short tempered mental outbursts..he grew the stuff,...another hung himself in Fed prison...his concentration was just about zero..could not keep a job for more than 6 months--30 years of 20 jobs.......he was educated at Vanderbilt. Another was caught growing an acre of the stuff...no search warrant and he was released but his slow ambling walk and slow speech and that pregnant minute for him to comprehend just what you asked him............indicated mental impairment...the mellow guy on steroids. Another was a partier who ended up divorced and his kid got strung out on drugs and killed himself...................all started on pot and continued it unabated for years.............

It is its own punishment and anyone who says it is as harmless as beer, is the typical pot defender,who I have listened to for 40 years.

There is a reason why professional sports and cops and pilots, do drug testing for pot and steroids..........

 

[OwnTheRide]

lol @ some of the replies in this thread... good god.

When crazy people shoot others, do we blame the gun or the crazy person?

Anyone seeing a parallel here?

 

[Willyone]

Is the weed of today more potent than the weed of yesteryear?
Some say it's much more potent. I don't know... I smoked it when I was in my 20's and 30's, and a little when in my 40's. Much of it was my own home grown, and actually some pretty good shit (o: But I haven't rolled one for about 30ish years now.
So is the current shit better than the shit from the 70's or 80's ??

 

[Bigfoot]

The title of this thread is far out man.

I can't dig it.

 

[S&W Fan]

Is the weed of today more potent than the weed of yesteryear?
Some say it's much more potent. I don't know... I smoked it when I was in my 20's and 30's, and a little when in my 40's. Much of it was my own home grown, and actually some pretty good shit (o: But I haven't rolled one for about 30ish years now.
So is the current shit better than the shit from the 70's or 80's ??

Yes, and that’s all I’ll say.

 

[tgenec86]

Really tired of the stench of weed everywhere - but I'm not going to say that it should not be legal. My issue is the experience I had with it. Took a couple tokes many years back during a trip to a friends cabin. It totally destroyed my time sense. Five minutes would seem to pass, and the clock said 30 seconds, then I'd look back again in a few seconds and minutes had passed. I absolutely, unquestionably would have been a serious hazard behind the wheel of a car. I doubt I'm the only one, and it seems that 20% of the cars that pass by are smoking like a bowl. The news will not report on impaired driving, so I guess we just won't find out.

The real underhanded side though: NYS gets exactly what they want. Conservative independent folks who have known for decades that pot should not be illegal and enjoy a nice buzz on occasion are one Brown Shirt check away from losing their permit. That was absolutely, carefully planned.

 

[S&W Fan]

they're coming to take me away ha haaa
They're coming to take me away ha haaa ho ho hee hee
To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young men
In their clean white coats

And they're coming to take me away
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away ha haaa!

 

[spat]

Everything I pick up has a disclaimer that it will cause cancer if I live in California. If someone has a point to prove they can also gear a study to prove it.

Nah, they're misinterpreting the results.

It's "research" that causes cancer in California.

There is a billion dollar industry for turning research into dollars in california, and cancer is the machine they use to do it.

 

[spat]

Really tired of the stench of weed everywhere - but I'm not going to say that it should not be legal. My issue is the experience I had with it. Took a couple tokes many years back during a trip to a friends cabin. It totally destroyed my time sense. Five minutes would seem to pass, and the clock said 30 seconds, then I'd look back again in a few seconds and minutes had passed. I absolutely, unquestionably would have been a serious hazard behind the wheel of a car. I doubt I'm the only one, and it seems that 20% of the cars that pass by are smoking like a bowl. The news will not report on impaired driving, so I guess we just won't find out.

The real underhanded side though: NYS gets exactly what they want. Conservative independent folks who have known for decades that pot should not be illegal and enjoy a nice buzz on occasion are one Brown Shirt check away from losing their permit. That was absolutely, carefully planned.

I agree, I DGAF what someone smokes on their own, but permeating a public area with the stench of pot is far more rude than second hand tobacco smoke.

It should be 100% legal, but people.who stink of it should be ostracized the same way they would if they reeked of alcohol.

It should be legally acceptable and socially taboo.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Is the weed of today more potent than the weed of yesteryear?
Some say it's much more potent. I don't know... I smoked it when I was in my 20's and 30's, and a little when in my 40's. Much of it was my own home grown, and actually some pretty good shit (o: But I haven't rolled one for about 30ish years now.
So is the current shit better than the shit from the 70's or 80's ??

Did they have shatter back then?

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[tirwin1]

Is the weed of today more potent than the weed of yesteryear?
Some say it's much more potent. I don't know... I smoked it when I was in my 20's and 30's, and a little when in my 40's. Much of it was my own home grown, and actually some pretty good shit (o: But I haven't rolled one for about 30ish years now.
So is the current shit better than the shit from the 70's or 80's ??

Yes. That is the problem. The THC content is much higher than what was readily available in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

[Acer-m14]

and beer is now 5.9 by volume .. all them ICE beers


.. or more if its craft beer ..

 

[subsonic]

lol @ some of the replies in this thread... good god.

When crazy people shoot others, do we blame the gun or the crazy person?

Anyone seeing a parallel here?

You’re right, it’s the same thing. The potheads are to blame for the consequence of their degenerate behavior and the damage they are doing to themselves and society.

I also missed the part where there’s a constitutional right to smoke pot, or an established tradition of it in Western European society, or where pot is necessary for self-defense, a well-ordered militia, or protection from a tyrannical government.

Or where owning a gun can break a person’s mind, not that voluntarily and ignorantly smoking pot absolves anyone of the consequences.

 

[spat]

You’re right, it’s the same thing. The potheads are to blame for the consequence of their degenerate behavior and the damage they are doing to themselves and society.

I also missed the part where there’s a constitutional right to smoke pot, or an established tradition of it in Western European society, or where pot is necessary for self-defense, a well-ordered militia, or protection from a tyrannical government.

Or where owning a gun can break a person’s mind, not that voluntarily and ignorantly smoking pot absolves anyone of the consequences.

There is no constitutionally guaranteed right to smoke pot, but the constitution simply does not grant the federal government the power to forbid it.

One of the main arguments against the 2A when the constitution was being drafted was that it was unnecessary, since the constitution didn't grant the federal government any power that could be used to infringe it.

When they banned alcohol they had to pass a constitutional ammendment to do it, because it was well understood that it wasn't a power they had without it.

Then FDR came along and decided the feds could do whatever they wanted and pretend it was somehow "regulating interstate commerce".

That was the beginning of the end.

But, then we allowed

 

[Modean]

Laughing at the narrow minded schoolmarm responses. Seems some here aren’t as into freedom as you might think.

 

[Bigfoot]

Freedom can be dangerous and sometimes scary. I will take freedom every time.

 

[Bigfoot]

I have hardly ever smelled weed in public places like others here and elsewhere have stated.
I'm certainly not saying it isn't true, I can believe it. But I have also noticed some exaggerating going on in this thread. So I have to take that into consideration too.

IDK, when I go into the village or the small city of Batavia. There has only been a couple of times that I have smelled weed in a public area... YMMV.

 

[stokes]

When I was younger, like everyone around me, we smoked pot. Gave it up when I went into LE, of course. Most of my friends continued and still smoke. None of them ever went psycho and have led productive lives for the past 40+ years. A few of the chronic users are a bit slow on the uptake, but nothing debilitating, and only when they are actually smoking it. When they first opened the dispensary in Mass near me, my wife shops there, not at the dispensary but the stores nearby, and I would go talk with the cops who were very happy to be assigned outside for crowd control, big OT shift, very easy, they said pot heads were easy to deal with. But seeing the lines outside which were about 100 yds long all day long, I realized I was in the serious minority especially among people my own age, if there were 100 people on line there were only maybe 10 or so under the age of 40. The cops told me that that was their impression, that younger people werent buying it legally, its cheaper to buy from the street dealers. But I was amazed at the amount of older adults that still smoke it. You never smell it in Great Barrington because unlike NY in Mass its still illegal to smoke outside. You cant even carry it in public if the sealed, and stamped "approved" packaging is opened. You have to leave it in your house after opening it. I believe like anything else in life, moderate use is not a problem or any worse than alcohol with moderate use.

 

[fresch]

People are people and their profession is not stopping them from doing drugs.
Be it cops, lawyers, judges, politicians, etc..
Freedom is freedom not what I or you think, however the price of freedom must also include the punishment for interference of an others freedom.

 

[Zerex]

10% cannot handle it and the rest just get impaired.....................same old same old unfounded anecdotal opinion............ from the shaky hand due to pot and beer. Pilots? Conductors? Engineers? Cops, Soldiers? Drug tests?


Read a little real proof from the experts...........I realize a short attention span, cannot read this much.

Is there a link between marijuana use and psychiatric disorders? | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Several studies have linked marijuana use to increased risk for psychiatric disorders, including psychosis (schizophrenia), depression, anxiety, and substance use disorders, but whether and to what extent it actually causes these conditions is not always easy to determine.

nida.nih.gov

Can Marijuana Cause Psychosis?

Marijuana has many risks, including an increased risk of psychosis. Learn about the factors that can increase your risk of developing marijuana-induced psychosis.

www.verywellmind.com

https://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/step/early-intervention-services/cannabis%20use%20and%20psychosis_380524_284_53825_v2.pdf

AA is full of alcohol and pot users who failed, as are jails.................. No AA in your burg?

 

[dwa12479]

 

[SonOfSun]

There is a reason why professional sports and cops and pilots, do drug testing for pot and steroids..........

Are you proposing that steroids reduce performance?

 

[Modean]

10% cannot handle it and the rest just get impaired.....................same old same old unfounded anecdotal opinion............ from the shaky hand due to pot and beer. Pilots? Conductors? Engineers? Cops, Soldiers? Drug tests?


Read a little real proof from the experts...........I realize a short attention span, cannot read this much.

Is there a link between marijuana use and psychiatric disorders? | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Several studies have linked marijuana use to increased risk for psychiatric disorders, including psychosis (schizophrenia), depression, anxiety, and substance use disorders, but whether and to what extent it actually causes these conditions is not always easy to determine.

nida.nih.gov

Can Marijuana Cause Psychosis?

Marijuana has many risks, including an increased risk of psychosis. Learn about the factors that can increase your risk of developing marijuana-induced psychosis.

www.verywellmind.com

https://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/step/early-intervention-services/cannabis%20use%20and%20psychosis_380524_284_53825_v2.pdf

AA is full of alcohol and pot users who failed, as are jails.................. No AA in your burg?

So no one uses either substance and doesn’t have a problem?

 

[Bigfoot]

10% cannot handle it and the rest just get impaired.....................same old same old unfounded anecdotal opinion............ from the shaky hand due to pot and beer. Pilots? Conductors? Engineers? Cops, Soldiers? Drug tests?


Read a little real proof from the experts...........I realize a short attention span, cannot read this much.

Is there a link between marijuana use and psychiatric disorders? | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Several studies have linked marijuana use to increased risk for psychiatric disorders, including psychosis (schizophrenia), depression, anxiety, and substance use disorders, but whether and to what extent it actually causes these conditions is not always easy to determine.

nida.nih.gov

Can Marijuana Cause Psychosis?

Marijuana has many risks, including an increased risk of psychosis. Learn about the factors that can increase your risk of developing marijuana-induced psychosis.

www.verywellmind.com

https://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/step/early-intervention-services/cannabis%20use%20and%20psychosis_380524_284_53825_v2.pdf

AA is full of alcohol and pot users who failed, as are jails.................. No AA in your burg?

Your concern is noted... LOL

 

[Shadow rider]

I have hardly ever smelled weed in public places like others here and elsewhere have stated.
I'm certainly not saying it isn't true, I can believe it. But I have also noticed some exaggerating going on in this thread. So I have to take that into consideration too.

IDK, when I go into the village or the small city of Batavia. There has only been a couple of times that I have smelled weed in a public area... YMMV.

I have to agree...and as far as driving and smoking...I drive around 1000 miles a week, all over NYS and have never noticed anyone toking up while driving, and I am a rubber necker when I drive.

 

[repete]

I live in Rottenchester and I smell that skunk piss smell every freakin day! Sometimes at 7:00 in the morning, in the afternoon and evening it's worse. My wife and I don't even walk around the block anymore because of the stench, I live a couple hundred yards down a private road and start to smell that shit when I get to within 50-100 yards of public property! I've had cars drive by and all of a sudden, the stench hits, go into a store or restaurant and the stink coming off some people is horrible, I've actually gotten up and moved to another table or walked out! Personally, I hope their brains melt!