Delays Leave US Navy With Just 31 Ready Attack Submarines

[Bigfoot]

Almost 40% of the Navy’s nuclear-powered attack submarines are out of commission for repairs​

"Delays at naval shipyards caused by supply-chain issues and not enough workers have put nearly 40% of Navy attack submarines out of commission, according to a July 6 report from the Congressional Research Service."

"Eighteen of the Navy’s 49 nuclear-powered attack submarines are classified as in depot maintenance or awaiting maintenance, which leaves the U.S. at a critical disadvantage against China’s larger fleet,"

Delays Leave US Navy With Just 31 Ready Attack Submarines

Almost 40% of the Navy’s nuclear-powered attack submarines are out of commission for repairs

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[Bigfoot]

 

[Saltwater60]

Waiting on parts from China?

 

[fresch]

Remember covid
Not taken the shot = no job.
No job = lack of workers
Lack of workers = supply chain issues.
Working like, you know the thing. All part of the plan.

 

[Cooolone]

China's larger fleet by a few, and how many of theirs are in for service? Let's not subscribe to hysteria... Lol

But, over the last few years, before this all happened (supply chain issues) I remember a guy telling us all about how great it would be if WE got off foreign nipples and became self reliant again!

Hmmmmm...

Seems a self fulfilling prophecy or did this POTUS with his business acumen SEE the issue on the horizon and try to better position our country to withstand the coming storm?

Amazingly, Federal Law requires Govt contracts in these type of sensitive areas to comply with Made in USA, Supplied by USA, etc. Unless there is no USA soruce! I find it insane then we would outsource to our most sensitive rival... Doesn't make sense.

We need to reinvest in our own mineral, manufacturing and national resources. Period!

But not many would love the results, how inflation would be a byproduct of the economy heating up as a result. We would be making $ for sure, but prices most undoubtedly would follow. Easy to look at Australia and their what, 20 years of ever economic expansion... Worked well. For a while. Things aren't too bad though even though things have slowed down lately like everywhere.

Read that Cobalt is primary mined and exported to the world in China... Necessary for armor piercing munitions, I find this example amazing that a Govt would rely upon a foreign power for the stuff then... At least obtain multiple competing sources to keep all parties in check!

Anyways...

 

[fresch]

Unfortunately the Clintons would just sell it.

 

[Zerex]

Likely more propaganda.....Following Russian, Chinese and Iranian and N Korean subs ..we got this covered.
How many Russian nuke subs---9
How many chinese nuke subs?-- 6
How many Chinese Nuke Carriers....zero or maybe 2 maybe.

https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/china-submarine-capabilities/

China is getting ready to field its 3rd aircraft carrier — here's why it's no match for US flattops

China likes to brag about its two carriers and the third one it is building, but they have a long way to go to catch up with the US's 11 flattops.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Plater1]

As i understand it, the shortage is dry dock space. The United States doesn't have the capacity to build or repair a lot of ships anymore. Nearly all cargo and bulk freight ships are made in China, Japan, or South Korea.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Good news, we're giving Australia a couple of our better nuclear powered attack subs...

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Likely more propaganda.....Following Russian, Chinese and Iranian and N Korean subs ..we got this covered.
How many Russian nuke subs---9
How many chinese nuke subs?-- 6
How many Chinese Nuke Carriers....zero or maybe 2 maybe.

https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/china-submarine-capabilities/

China is getting ready to field its 3rd aircraft carrier — here's why it's no match for US flattops

China likes to brag about its two carriers and the third one it is building, but they have a long way to go to catch up with the US's 11 flattops.

www.businessinsider.com

If we get into a war with china, they can very quickly rebuild their numbers of tanks, planes, ships, subs. They have the industrial capacity, supply chains and collectivist attitude to do so.

We cannot.


They can sustain losses.

We cannot.


We're bringing 70year olds out of retirement at Raytheon for cripe sake to read mechanical drawings to remember how to redesign missiles because no one working there currently can figure it out. We are screwed as a country.

 

[Truebeliever]

Some of the issue is the age of our sub fleet. Older subs need more work . The “peace dividend “ under presidents — remember the Romney Obama debates- is coming back to haunt us. They slowed down the building of ships and subs so the fleet is much older than it was in the past . Only 3 sea wolf boats were built. The VA class was built as a cheaper alternative to Seawolf in the beginning.

 

[fresch]

That obama name keeps pooping up when ever the U.S.A. seams to have trouble.

 

[Dr. Evil]

That obama name keeps pooping up when ever the U.S.A. seams to have trouble.

"Fundamental change" my friend. His campaign promise.

 

[Deplorable Me]

There certainly isn't a shortage of seamen...........





.....in politician's asses.

 

[Jmac00]

Good news, we're giving Australia a couple of our better nuclear powered attack subs...

NOT TO WORRY, One sailor, on a trawler will get the sniffles, and they will lock down the entire country screaming "PANDEMIC, COVID-19, EVERYONE SHELTER-IN-PLACE, PUT A MASK ON, EVERYONE GET JABBED OR YOU GO TO A CONSENTRATION CAMP"

 

[spat]

Likely more propaganda.....Following Russian, Chinese and Iranian and N Korean subs ..we got this covered.
How many Russian nuke subs---9
How many chinese nuke subs?-- 6
How many Chinese Nuke Carriers....zero or maybe 2 maybe.

https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/china-submarine-capabilities/

China is getting ready to field its 3rd aircraft carrier — here's why it's no match for US flattops

China likes to brag about its two carriers and the third one it is building, but they have a long way to go to catch up with the US's 11 flattops.

www.businessinsider.com

Also, 40% sounds bad, until you realize that 33% is the expected normal level.

Nuclear capital ships spend 1/3 of their time deployed, 1/3 in dock between deployments/ training and 1/3 getting major complex overhauls.

We are the only nation with enough aircraft carriers to actually keep any at sea full-time.

 

[Jmac00]

IDK what the big deal is. Park ONE sub in the Mediterranean, with 16 missiles, and they can hit almost everything within 500 miles, park another in the Indian ocean. Near Taiwan, and one near North Korea.

I think that covers most of the bad guys

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

IDK what the big deal is. Park ONE sub in the Mediterranean, with 16 missiles, and they can hit almost everything within 500 miles, park another in the Indian ocean. Near Taiwan, and one near North Korea.

I think that covers most of the bad guys

Unfortunately 16 missiles isn't that impressive to a country like Russia.

Our subs now only have singular warheads on each missile so in theory that sub can take on 16 targets.

Previously under past administrations we had MIRVs multiple independent re-entry vehicles on each missile so we could mount 3 warheads on each missile.

We neutered ourselves to follow a treaty and reduced our submarine portion of our nuclear triad arguably our hardest to destroy and most redundant ,by 66%.

 

[Plater1]

Sal sheds some light on why we suck at building ships.

 

[spat]

Unfortunately 16 missiles isn't that impressive to a country like Russia.

Our subs now only have singular warheads on each missile so in theory that sub can take on 16 targets.

Previously under past administrations we had MIRVs multiple independent re-entry vehicles on each missile so we could mount 3 warheads on each missile.

We neutered ourselves to follow a treaty and reduced our submarine portion of our nuclear triad arguably our hardest to destroy and most redundant ,by 66%.

24 trident II D5 missiles (with 12 475kt warheads each) could kill 95% of all the people in Russia and still have 20 missiles left.

The one sub could probably kill 80% of all the people in all of Europe and Asia.

Also, the range is 7500 miles. 500 miles might be below the minimum range.

Oh, and all the "hypersonic missile" hype is just that. The Trident flys Mach 19. Good luck shooting that down if you are in any service who's name doesn't start with "united states".

UGM-133 Trident II - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

As for the "one warheads per missile" restriction, that is about as enforceable as FUAC's 7 round limit, and as quickly bypassed.

"We promise to only load one warhead in the magazine, pinky swear". There is *zero* way to verify that, and they can be swapped immediately once the sub returns to port after a deployment.