Sensitive locations clarification

[uglycustomer]

I have a CCW licensed years ago before this new NY took affect. Given the current rules/laws, am I allowed to legally carry in the following locations?

supermarkets
Deli’s
Inside a gas station convenience store
Parks

I remember a few months ago that a store had to put a picture on the store front if they allowed/didn’t allowed carrying a firearm inside. I no longer see that under the sensitive locations.

 

[Phazer]

Good luck.

 

[dwa12479]

Legally, all private businesses have been defaulted by the state to being illegal to CCW, UNLESS there is a specific policy in place e and signage that says CCW is welcome.

 

[Justincase]

All illegal. Parks are illegal by NYS law only if it’s a state park

 

[RedBreast21]

As I understand it, locations have to explicitly authorize CCW by posting it. Now if a business allows firearms and that business is in a shopping center that would require the land owner of the shopping center to also explicitly allow it. Any property you cross, enter or pass through that does not explicitly allow CCW, you can be charged with a felony.

Basically you can carry on your property, on your person while going to and from the range, on public streets and public sidewalks......except NYC, unless you're a resident. Everywhere else is a felony and if caught, you won't have to worry about 2A issues anymore after that.

So basically going to and from the range without any stops on private property that doesn't explicitly allow CCW and that you're within the law.

That was once known as a restricted permit of sorts. Target and Hunting comes to mind. Depends on the county. They made it up. These violations (very rare) would result in maybe a brief suspension by a local judge and some legal fees. But that was it. No gun charges. Now its a felony and loss of a right.

Everyone in NY has a restricted permit. Last September's law is designed to disarm you through ignorance or political push back against the law.

 

[Saltwater60]

Places have to opt into allowing you to concealed carry for it to be legal. This means they need to post a sign saying it’s allowed. All parks are out because that’s where kids congregate. Look up here for further information.

Gun Safety in New York State

gunsafety.ny.gov

 

[Uzi]

Concealed is concealed.

 

[Beerman]

Everyone in NY has a restricted permit.

Mine specifically states: RESTRICTIONS - NONE. I guess I got lucky this time. I got the only one! I never won a raffle or lottery in my whole life! Woooo hooooooo!!!

Oh, wait. My brother just informed me that I’m an idiot, and my permit is just a clever trap set by our benevolent rulers to help keep me safe.

 

[Defilade]

Places have to opt into allowing you to concealed carry for it to be legal. This means they need to post a sign saying it’s allowed. All parks are out because that’s where kids congregate. Look up here for further information.

Gun Safety in New York State

gunsafety.ny.gov

How did we get here? I didn't read that in the Constitution.

 

[Cooolone]

Let's see...

Joined today! And...

Asking legal advice!

Yeah, good job! Maybe ask Google.Esq and put a retainer!

You got a CCW and DON'T KNOW?

Good Luck!

 

[Willyone]

It's simple.... You CAN carry anywhere you want. But you MAY NOT carry anywhere you want.

 

[Acer-m14]

brb contacting a guy i know on the internet ..

 

[uglycustomer]

Let's see...

Joined today! And...

Asking legal advice!

Yeah, good job! Maybe ask Google.Esq and put a retainer!

You got a CCW and DON'T KNOW?

Good Luck!

Yes. I joined specifically to ask this question. The law is very abstract to me so wanted to ask the community.

 

[Phazer]

Yes. I joined specifically to ask this question. The law is very abstract to me so wanted to ask the community.

Exactly.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

2 schools of thought.

1- essentially EVERY public place is illegal unless they pro actively take action to "opt in" by posting a guns welcome here type of sign. Usually looks like a Nintendo phaser with a green circle around it or something.

2- concealed is concealed bif you really NEED it, it will make for an interesting decision for the DA whether to try the case or not.

 

[MothMan]

this and other anti-gun laws have not stopped me from being able to protect my wife and myself and will not until I am jailed for doing just that

 

[MothMan]

2 schools of thought.

1- essentially EVERY public place is illegal unless they pro actively take action to "opt in" by posting a guns welcome here type of sign. Usually looks like a Nintendo phaser with a green circle around it or something.

2- concealed is concealed bif you really NEED it, it will make for an interesting decision for the DA whether to try the case or not.

Is there an official sign? Where does it have to be displayed? If one is on a gaspump does it count? Where can I get these stickers made?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Is there an official sign? Where does it have to be displayed? If one is on a gaspump does it count? Where can I get these stickers made?

No there is not an official sign. But I'm just referencing some of them that I have seen so far.

how about this, Walmart, has signs saying "please refrain from open carry". Does that mean that they imply conceal carry is fine?

That's the whole point is it's stupid. I honestly don't know how much a DA wants to really push the issue if that is the only "law" you "may or may not" be breaking especially of you have a NY pistol license and are carrying your registered pistol. Does a DA really want to open that can of worms or is this just another attempt to discourage law abiding citizens from carrying and use it as an additional pile on charge when criminals do dumb shit.

I know what my choice is and what I do

 

[Saltwater60]

How did we get here? I didn't read that in the Constitution.

We got here because the constitution means nothing and politicians want power and control. That’s all that matters to them anymore and most people don’t care about guns or to fight for what they should. They now want to keep people poor, drunk, high, or in debt so they can be controlled.

Also to note when I offer advice on posts like this I tell people what the law is because that’s what they are asking for. It certainly doesn’t mean o support the law or rule one bit. I run into this on another site regularly.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes. I joined specifically to ask this question. The law is very abstract to me so wanted to ask the community.

First off welcome and glad you’re here. I hope you stick around. I provided the link above to what the FAQ’s are on the law and they should be pretty clear there. Best of luck and this is a touchy point for many on here so don’t be scared away. The more the merrier here.

 

[Beerman]

First off welcome and glad you’re here. I hope you stick around. I provided the link above to what the FAQ’s are on the law and they should be pretty clear there. Best of luck and this is a touchy point for many on here so don’t be scared away. The more the merrier here.

“Merry” is exactly how I think of this place. Yeah, merry.

 

[Willyone]

We got here because the constitution means nothing and politicians want power and control. That’s all that matters to them anymore and most people don’t care about guns or to fight for what they should. They now want to keep people poor, drunk, high, or in debt so they can be controlled.

Also to note when I offer advice on posts like this I tell people what the law is because that’s what they are asking for. It certainly doesn’t mean o support the law or rule one bit. I run into this on another site regularly.

Your 1st paragraph dead on, especially the last sentence. I believe and have mentioned before that getting and keeping people dependent, poor, drugged up and stupid, is a plus for our "dear leaders". Dependent mind numbed sheep are easy to control. I give government credit, they're doing a great job at it.

 

[Vinson57]

Tell me if I am wrong but does not NY code say a firearm is an illegal handgun or pistol? Then the permits makes your gun legal and not called a firearm anymore.

Then this means a sign that says "No Firearms", only means the crooks and not my CCW?

I know they don't need any sign now but I seen yesterday, right after I encountered a strange person hanging out in a secluded area, a sign that no firearms allowed and it's probably been there 30 years or more.

The sensitive area part of the CCIA is the worst infringement way past all of the safe act.

There is a federal district case in MD where they struck some of this down but my standard is concealed is concealed like your underwear (unmentionables) and no ones business. I'm also against all dog fence restrictions of here and there and maintain, gun free zones, if you want one, get armed security and someone to operate metal detectors.

 

[Cooolone]

Yes. I joined specifically to ask this question. The law is very abstract to me so wanted to ask the community.

Well, then you've already disarmed yourself by somehow thinking you'll get a valid answer to an abstract phrased section of law on the internet.

Secondly, doing so with purpose, ie, coming here to distinctly ask a specific question lends to an intent! Whether or not that intent contains malfeasance, who knows. But I'm a cynic and untrusting individual, so I don't trust newbies who show up asking specific questions who haven't even given the courtesy of introducing themselves properly.

Third and lastly, as I've said above, you are already in trouble because you went through the trouble to arm yourself but don't KNOW the ins & outs before doing so. Basically backwards... Are you familiar with Art. 35 of the NYS Penal code? Art. 400 and others? Or are you going to ask on the internet about them too? Lol

NYS obfuscates it's law purposely, get over it. I'll end with a question, asking WHY you got a CCW to begin with?

Have a great day!

 

[RedBreast21]

Yes. I joined specifically to ask this question. The law is very abstract to me so wanted to ask the community.

All good. You should also read Article 35 use of self defense in NY. Everyone should read and understand it.

 

[Varmint]

Don’t go to Walmart they pat you down looking for stolen meat lol… 2 freezers of wild game… $25 for a little tenderloin?
Yeah right

 

[Varmint]

Don’t go to Walmart they pat you down looking for stolen meat lol… 2 freezers of wild game… $25 for a little tenderloin?
Yeah right

The turkeys are back… the pheasant are back… we dug a huge pond and stocked it.
Life is beautiful… keep those coyotes in check. 50 grain Sierra blitz blow them in half out of the 22-250

 

[Defilade]

It’s well established that American Jurisprudence has four (4) primary sources of legal authority: 1) Constitutional Law: The supreme law of the land, all law falls under the constitution; 2) Statutory Law: Law made by Legislature which cannot contradict the constitution; 3) Administrative Law: Government agency rules or regulations, which cannot contradict the constitution or Legislature’s statutes, a.k.a ordinances” and resolutions”; and 4) Common Law a.k.a. Case Law: which reflects both constitutional and statutory law.

The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution prohibits states from enacting laws that are contrary to the laws of our federal government: "This Constitution and the Laws of the United States ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." U.S. Const. art. VI, cl. 2. It is through this clause that the United States Congress may preempt state law. Office of Disciplinary Counsel v. Marcone, 579 Pa. 1, 855 A. 2d 654, 664 (2004)

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

All of you are going to be extremely grateful tomorrow when Hamas terrorists try to commit atrocities here in NYS, but can't because of the Sensitive Locations ban! Boy are they gonna be pissed!

 

[Acer-m14]

2 schools of thought.

1- essentially EVERY public place is illegal unless they pro actively take action to "opt in" by posting a guns welcome here type of sign. Usually looks like a Nintendo phaser with a green circle around it or something.

2- concealed is concealed bif you really NEED it, it will make for an interesting decision for the DA whether to try the case or not.

1 is also called compelled speech and its against the 1A