New York Considers New Taxes on Guns and Ammunition Dec. 19, 2023

[livingston]

Firearms and ammunition are already subject to New York sales tax. If New York State Senate Bill 7733 is enacted, it will place an additional excise tax on the sale of firearms and ammunition.
Firearms and ammunition are already subject to New York sales tax. If New York State Senate Bill 7733 is enacted, it will place an additional excise tax on the sale of firearms and ammunition in the Empire State. The rate would be 11% to match the federal firearms and ammunition excise tax as well as the new California tax on guns and ammo dealers.

SB 7733 would impose an excise tax on licensed dealers in firearms, firearms manufacturers, and sellers of ammunition. The 11% tax would apply to the gross receipts from the retail sale of any ammunition, firearm, or “major component of a firearm” in New York.

New York Considers New Taxes on Guns and Ammunition

Firearms and ammunition are already subject to New York sales tax. If New York State Senate Bill 7733 is enacted, it will place an additional excise tax on the sale of firearms and ammunition.

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[livingston]

They are working towards the tried and true tobacco tax folks . Tax the product out of existence ... You folks watch there will be a tax stamp on all boxes of ammo . Bring ammo from out of state get arrested for tax avoidance
This is just the start folks... When I was a lot younger I Dipped snuff... A tin of Skoal was 60 cents .... What is it selling for today ? $6 or $7 ... I have not bought any in like 40 years. ... So I am not up on the price ...

 

[Saltwater60]

Looking to shutdown FFL’s in NYS. You’ll have no retail inventory in NYS and just have tabletop guys to do the transfers. Then they will shutdown on line gun buying because UPS and fed ex lose them. This will be their backdoor gun ban.

 

[MothMan]

and the announcer of this news is a CPA site

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Of course, the proposed law exempts sales to law enforcement agencies and LEO's. I have been saying for years that we need to refuse to have anything to do with selling anything to, or, providing any firearm related services to NYS. They still won't get the message even when they have to travel out of state to get anything firearm related, but that needs to be done anyway.

I hate it for friends still back in New Yorkistan. If I owned a gun shop in a neighboring state, it would be adorned with signs welcoming private NY gun owners, and telling all persons there on behalf of NYS to FUCK OFF!

 

[MothMan]

They are working towards the tried and true tobacco tax folks . Tax the product out of existence ... You folks watch there will be a tax stamp on all boxes of ammo . Bring ammo from out of state get arrested for tax avoidance
This is just the start folks... When I was a lot younger I Dipped snuff... A tin of Skoal was 60 cents .... What is it selling for today ? $6 or $7 ... I have not bought any in like 40 years. ... So I am not up on the price ...

DON"T be selling any loosies either!! Just ask Eric how well that worked for him.

Eric Garner Died from Chokehold While in Police Custody

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Sure, let's tax voting and free speech too. It's only fair. It's for the children

 

[Deplorable Me]

All this does is encourage the underground economy.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Then that money should go to Firearm safety promotion and bring back Eddy the Eagle?!

 

[Saltwater60]

Of course, the proposed law exempts sales to law enforcement agencies and LEO's. I have been saying for years that we need to refuse to have anything to do with selling anything to, or, providing any firearm related services to NYS. They still won't get the message even when they have to travel out of state to get anything firearm related, but that needs to be done anyway.

I hate it for friends still back in New Yorkistan. If I owned a gun shop in a neighboring state, it would be adorned with signs welcoming private NY gun owners, and telling all persons there on behalf of NYS to FUCK OFF!

They are all already tax exempt. I work for the government and I have to use a tax exempt form and go to places that accept it. State vesicle don’t require registration either. No insurance either as the state is self insured with your money. Nice huh.

 

[Saltwater60]

All this does is encourage the underground economy.

Or me to buy more out of state.

 

[livingston]

Or me to buy more out of state.

I am arguing that they will treat out of state sales like tobacco
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Sentences and Penalties for Possession, Transportation or Sale of Unstamped Cigarettes​

This charge is a misdemeanor. Therefore, it can be punishable by up to 1 year in prison. However, if the person has a prior conviction of this subdivision within the preceding 5 years, then this charge is a Class E felony. Class “E” Felonies are punishable by 1 1/3 to 4 years in prison. However, a shorter determinate sentence, or a conditional discharge or probation are all authorized sentences for this New York tobacco tax crime.

New York Cigarette Smuggling – The Fast Law Firm

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The goal is to disarm the population... I can see if you bring untaxed ammo across state lines the penalty will be severe enough to lose all your firearms .. Folks look at what happens if you are caught with one hollow point in New Jersey .The law is in place not to protect the public ... but to harm gun owners . Making a mistake.

 

[Cooolone]

I can see (crystal ball) resort camps set up where you buy into a community, own a Tiny House in a FREE State, and register ALL your firearms there. Then the Federal Law would apply to freely bring your firearms into NY outside the bullshit malfeasance they exhibit towards any 2A supporters and practice. Lolz. Is a great safety gap too when asked "WHERE" this or that firearm is located should you ever be subject to Red Flag or whatnot... Simple answer would be, "Not in this State!"

 

[FP1201]

The Headline should reflect "Another Tax" on Guns and Ammunition, as those items have a Federal Excise Tax built in, and Sales Tax is collected on Retail Sales, and while I feel for my fellow man, I will not be making any purchases that will pay NYS a Penny nor will I be adding my name involuntarily to the States Guns and Ammunition Registries.
When the Governor decides you're a Pirate because you do not serve him, it is indeed time to become a Pirate.

 

[FrankenCub]

They are working towards the tried and true tobacco tax folks . Tax the product out of existence ... You folks watch there will be a tax stamp on all boxes of ammo . Bring ammo from out of state get arrested for tax avoidance
This is just the start folks... When I was a lot younger I Dipped snuff... A tin of Skoal was 60 cents .... What is it selling for today ? $6 or $7 ... I have not bought any in like 40 years. ... So I am not up on the price ...

Copenhagen is $9.79 a can

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

When I used to chew I got my goods out of state. People I know who smoke mainly get their cigs out of state. Now everyone is getting ammo out of state. The "black market" is a wonderful thing.

 

[OwnTheRide]

No insurance either as the state is self insured with your money.

That's actually a savings. Insurance companies aren't doing their thing out of the goodness of their hearts, they are making money from the insured. If an entity is large enough, it can be a substantial savings to self-insure. I don't know whether or not self-insurance is allowed for non-government agencies in NY, or what the steps would be to qualify for it.

 

[Jem45472]

They are working towards the tried and true tobacco tax folks . Tax the product out of existence ... You folks watch there will be a tax stamp on all boxes of ammo . Bring ammo from out of state get arrested for tax avoidance
This is just the start folks... When I was a lot younger I Dipped snuff... A tin of Skoal was 60 cents .... What is it selling for today ? $6 or $7 ... I have not bought any in like 40 years. ... So I am not up on the price ...

$8 last I bought, but think they added an additional tax since.

I bought a pack of marlboro last month for $17. Insane.

 

[fresch]

"bought a pack of marlboro last month for $17"
Most of that is the tax stamp, but the state/county will then tax that tax!

 

[tapper3]

Paging Clint Halftown.................

 

[Acer-m14]

Smoking and Chewing Tabaco is a privilege ..

Ammo is not ..

but now my ammo identifies as a grape cigar .. 10 bucks a carton of 200 on the Res ..

i quit smoking like 6 months ago ..

i have like 6 cartons for sale

come on Reservation we need ammo sales ..

 

[C3D]

An excise tax on firearms poses a very interesting constitutional challenge under the Heller and Bruen line of case. The 11% Federal tax is an obvious candidate for a challenge. Guns would be about 10% cheaper if it were gone.

As far as I know there is nobody challenging this.

 

[tapper3]

Nation gambling. Nation tobacco. Nation gasoline. Nation weed.

Now add Nation guns & ammo and all that would be lacking is Nation whiskey.

Oh, the irony of it all.

 

[Cavalry]

I can see (crystal ball) resort camps set up where you buy into a community, own a Tiny House in a FREE State, and register ALL your firearms there.

Why/how would you register your firearms in a free state? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of living free?

 

[Grimscale]

come on Reservation we need ammo sales ..

Can't repeat this often enough.
I would LOVE to see the Rez start selling ammo. And if NY pushes back they can reclaim their portion of the Thruway and Rt81.

FUNY

 

[fresch]

Let the tires burn! Again.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I smell another lawsuit coming.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Then that money should go to Firearm safety promotion and bring back Eddy the Eagle?!

WRONG!
All you`re saying is that you are allowing this state to get away with this sh!t, only to keep bringing more taxation after this fiasco later on!

This BS needs to be STOPPED, NOW!

 

[FP1201]

An excise tax on firearms poses a very interesting constitutional challenge under the Heller and Bruen line of case. The 11% Federal tax is an obvious candidate for a challenge. Guns would be about 10% cheaper if it were gone.

As far as I know there is nobody challenging this.

Originally the Pittman-Robertson Tax was voluntary, but eventually the gubberment got used to the money and made enforcement the bureaucratic duty of BATFE and few dare nor the resources to lay challenge to collections made by Judge, Jury, and Executioner. after the second revolution, it will be a long time before allowed again.

 

[C3D]

Originally the Pittman-Robertson Tax was voluntary, but eventually the gubberment got used to the money and made enforcement the bureaucratic duty of BATFE and few dare nor the resources to lay challenge to collections made by Judge, Jury, and Executioner. after the second revolution, it will be a long time before allowed again.

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