Saturday pistol permit classes

[subsonic]

I work, and I go to church on Sunday.

Are there any CCIA pistol permit class options that work in Central NY/Southern Tier or upstate generally that I can commute to on a couple of Saturdays to do the course?

I'd rather not have to take 4 weekdays off work just for this requirement and I'm not skipping church. Seems like most 2 day options are all day Saturday and Sunday.

Are there any options? I'd travel outside the region if necessary.

 

[stokes]

Cant go to church and the class on a Sunday? I dont do the church thing anymore but when I did it was only an hour on a Sunday.

 

[subsonic]

Cant go to church and the class on a Sunday? I dont do the church thing anymore but when I did it was only an hour on a Sunday.

I'd explain this further but I don't want to derail the thread. Short answer is "no."

And I really do feel that this whole 2A violation is infringing on my 1A with the class availability.

It would be nice if there was one Christian instructor out there that would do part 1 on a Saturday and part 2 on the following Saturday. And everyone can have Sunday to themselves.

The cost of 4 days off of work for me would be phenomenal. Compared to the cost of classes, permits, even guns and ammo.

 

[stokes]

Try contacting one of the class instructors, maybe they can work something out so you can do 2 saturdays.

 

[FP1201]

What makes it even tougher is that, Classes typically over-fill within 24 hours of being announced...there just aren't enough certified instructor or classes.

 

[subsonic]

Try contacting one of the class instructors, maybe they can work something out so you can do 2 saturdays.

How exactly? Are they going to certify me based on doing half the same content twice? I don't think so.

Seems like I'd be better off asking for a 1 on 1 private class. At that rate I might near as well take the 4 days off and make it a vacation.

If I had 6 pm weekday classes near me I could swing that but the only ones like that I've found are on Long Island. The nearby ones start at 4, what I've found I'd have to drive over an hour to get one that starts at 5. Those don't work for me. I'd drive across the state to do two Saturdays but every instructor I've found that does weekends makes it Saturday and Sunday.

 

[Sargepug]

Go to a midnight mass!

 

[Beerman]

If you end up driving a ways to take a course, be sure that it will be accepted by your county if the course is taught outside your county of residence. Good luck.

 

[subsonic]

Go to a midnight mass!

Away papist!

So after posting this and some research I found a class, with openings, not too far off, that runs Thursday/Friday nights and Saturday, and is accepted in my county. Exactly what I needed, and no Sabbath-breaking necessary! Sometimes it just takes a little faith.

 

[Sargepug]

Away papist!

So after posting this and some research I found a class, with openings, not too far off, that runs Thursday/Friday nights and Saturday, and is accepted in my county. Exactly what I needed, and no Sabbath-breaking necessary! Sometimes it just takes a little faith.

What? You have a problem w/ Catholics???

 

[subsonic]

What? You have a problem w/ Catholics???

That's a joke, but I'm not a Roman Catholic and doing the class on Sunday, especially all day Sunday, is a problem to begin with, so capping it off by going to a Roman Catholic mass wouldn't exact solve it.

I don't think the vast majority of Catholics would have a big problem with skipping mass to take a one-off class, but I suppose some very traditional ones would have a similar objection. The instructor is working on the day of rest and you're skipping church, when there's no reason not to do it any other day of the week.

I was trying to just ask a simple question without derailing the thread though.

 

[Sargepug]

That's a joke, but I'm not a Roman Catholic and doing the class on Sunday, especially all day Sunday, is a problem to begin with, so capping it off by going to a Roman Catholic mass wouldn't exact solve it.

I don't think the vast majority of Catholics would have a big problem with skipping mass to take a one-off class, but I suppose some very traditional ones would have a similar objection. The instructor is working on the day of rest and you're skipping church, when there's no reason not to do it any other day of the week.

I was trying to just ask a simple question without derailing the thread though.

Ok, fair enough! Catholic's that are devout, like my mother and in-laws from Italy, never miss mass either. So, what's your denomination, you born again? I have a cousin that has converted.

 

[subsonic]

Ok, fair enough! Catholic's that are devout, like my mother and in-laws from Italy, never miss mass either. So, what's your denomination, you born again? I have a cousin that has converted.

As much as I like the topic I don't want to get more specific than Reformed in an open internet forum like this, and it's a bit off-topic. PM me if you really want to get into it.

 

[Acer-m14]

just asking a question ..

who is waving the magic wand to say who can be a freaking Instructor anyways ..

special class of people i bet ..

 

[subsonic]

just asking a question ..

who is waving the magic wand to say who can be a freaking Instructor anyways ..

special class of people i bet ..

Penal Law section 265.00 defines it:

19. "Duly authorized instructor" means (a) a duly commissioned officer of the United States army, navy, marine corps or coast guard, or of the national guard of the state of New York; or (b) a duly qualified adult citizen of the United States who has been granted a certificate as an instructor in small arms practice issued by the United States army, navy or marine corps, or by the adjutant general of this state, or by the division of criminal justice services, or by the national rifle association of America, a not-for-profit corporation duly organized under the laws of this state; (c) by a person duly qualified and designated by the department of environmental conservation as its agent in the giving of instruction and the making of certifications of qualification in responsible hunting practices; or (d) a New York state 4-H certified shooting sports instructor.

It's not super difficult to qualify but it depends on the route you go. For instance to be a DEC hunter ed instructor you pass a background check, take an 8 hour instructor course, and have to do an appreticeship that varies in length but can take about a year to chip away at all the requirements.

But then having qualified one way or another you need to get your course approved by the licensing officers of the counties you want to accept it and it's basically at their discretion, which makes this semi-political. It's no use being qualified to teach a course if no one will accept your course. Unless you go get hired to teach one of the courses they already accept.

Besides being "duly qualified" the course needs to meet the statutory requirements and the standards issued by NYSP at https://troopers.ny.gov/system/file...dards-for-firearm-safety-training-8-23-22.pdf