GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
obviously he don't know the thing
Facebook Marketplace is great, but not for trading guns
On September 5, 2024, the Bureau of Criminal Investigation out of SP Lockport arrested Michael J. Lee, 32 of Burt, NY
Facebook Marketplace is great, but not for trading guns (NY man arrested selling 'AW's on facebook)
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obviously he don't know the thing
Doesn't everyone know about the Facebook loophole?
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Apparently only the sinkhole's
spat
.700 Nitro Express
When the constitution is finally enforced again, and all these bullshit rules are overturned, all the people unjustly persecuted should be able to sue the states and localities who did it to them.
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Facebook Marketplace is great, but not for trading guns
On September 5, 2024, the Bureau of Criminal Investigation out of SP Lockport arrested Michael J. Lee, 32 of Burt, NYtroopers.ny.gov
Maybe even the individual officers.
FRANKIE
.308 Win
Lol.
I wonder if he got to finish making the coffee before he invited them to his home
I wonder if he got to finish making the coffee before he invited them to his home
The elephant in the room is that the NYSP have a unit that monitors the Internet and all gun forums along with the FBI, DHS, ATF and likely other alphabet units.
A man was indicted by the Feds recently for threatening to cut out kama sutras eyes, cut her up, and set her on fire.
I am just not going to vote for her, or "Wen Ho Lee" Waltz.
en.wikipedia.org
Congress passed a law ,that prohibits anyone from selling or trading guns without an FFL an doing a NICS check...............all sales/transfers/trades have to go thru an FFL.......but sometimes the news travels slowly thru thick braincells.
A man was indicted by the Feds recently for threatening to cut out kama sutras eyes, cut her up, and set her on fire.
I am just not going to vote for her, or "Wen Ho Lee" Waltz.
Wen Ho Lee - Wikipedia
Congress passed a law ,that prohibits anyone from selling or trading guns without an FFL an doing a NICS check...............all sales/transfers/trades have to go thru an FFL.......but sometimes the news travels slowly thru thick braincells.
The elephant in the room is that the NYSP have a unit that monitors the Internet and all gun forums along with the FBI, DHS, ATF and likely other alphabet units.
A man was indicted by the Feds recently for threatening to cut out kama sutras eyes, cut her up, and set her on fire.
I am just not going to vote for her, or "Wen Ho Lee" Waltz.
Wen Ho Lee - Wikipedia
Congress passed a law ,that prohibits anyone from selling or trading guns without an FFL an doing a NICS check...............all sales/transfers/trades have to go thru an FFL.......but sometimes the news travels slowly thru thick braincells.
I think anyone who doesn't already realize and expect that EVERY electronic communication they have is monitored lives under a rock.
We have a very long thread here already with one member (who shall remain nameless) run in with the purple tie fellows over some online posts he made.
The feds do much much more. The state absolutely monitors this website and all others.
In fact I bet they have like a data analytics algorithm bot that actively searches for specific terms and if it gets a hit an actual human investigates the post or message that's probably about how it works.
EVERY single electronic communication you make is duplicated and archived in a cloud server farm. Most people have no idea how badly our own government spies on us. But that's an entirely different rabbit hole that stated on September 12th 2001 with a lot of gray area and extra authorities that looking back in hind sight have been so egregiously distorted and abused by now I'm chasing squirrels and on a tangent again.
So yea, if you post shit online that would be "frowned upon" if it crosses the threshold expect a visit. It's also not coincidentally why all the people here stopped posting pictures of "things they used to have but no longer have that have been lost or moved out of state" but again, now I'm on a tangent that could be an entirely new thread of what happened and why everyone is suspicious and why very few people post anything gun related on a gun forum. I personally only post shit about my pistols because clearly the state already knows the down to the caliber And serial number so no point trying to maintain a level of privacy there.
Cavalry
.308 Win
When exactly did Congress pass this?
Oh my god.
You cannot possibly be that out of touch with reality.
news.wgcu.org
Go ahead, advertise and sell some guns.
You cannot possibly be that out of touch with reality.
Change in federal gun law closes 'gunshow loophole'
A change in federal gun laws should make it more difficult for people without licenses to buy weapons.
news.wgcu.org
Go ahead, advertise and sell some guns.
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Vapor
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Yeah that wasn't passed by Congress. I think it was an ATF/executive action. Although the danger is defining who is a dealer. They left it purposely vague
Cavalry
.308 Win
Key word "dealer". This falls into the black hole of who is a dealer and the whole "for profit" nonsense from the AFT. Specifically, Congress has passed no law to prevent the average person from selling a firearm as you have stated. Please check your version of reality.Oh my god.
You cannot possibly be that out of touch with reality.
Change in federal gun law closes 'gunshow loophole'
A change in federal gun laws should make it more difficult for people without licenses to buy weapons.
Go ahead, advertise and sell some guns.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I don’t generally feel bad for morons and this guys a moron.
Is why the ATF via EO has began to label Anyone who sell Anything called a Dealer!
Chevron overruled all the Acronym Agency garbage... Nice try attempting to invoke Congress as being responsible for this, but no, it is NOT a law, let alone Federal Law!
I reside in a state, not NY, but maintain a presence here in NY, anyways, where private sales still are a rule, still legal, isn't a fucking loophole!
Keep using the Progressives diatribe and believe that it is real, it'll do you good! They got your weak ass brain right where they want it!
Chevron overruled all the Acronym Agency garbage... Nice try attempting to invoke Congress as being responsible for this, but no, it is NOT a law, let alone Federal Law!
I reside in a state, not NY, but maintain a presence here in NY, anyways, where private sales still are a rule, still legal, isn't a fucking loophole!
Keep using the Progressives diatribe and believe that it is real, it'll do you good! They got your weak ass brain right where they want it!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
ATF is the New Congress ..
Didn't you know .
Didn't you know .
Well the NEW paradigm employed by the Executive Branch that is used to supplant or bypass the Legislative Branch of our Government is real... Add to it the Executive basically ignoring the Judicial, ie, the SCOTUS and it's readily apparent this administration has worked hard to establish an Oligarchy!
FEDERAL LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS....................NOT AN ATF RULE.
WAKE UP, READ.
Safer Communities Act...................LAW, not an ATF rule.
www.cbsnews.com
We hope it is unconstitutional................................HOPE,............BUT IT IS FEDERAL LAW.
All sales have to be thru an FFL............to an FFL.............NICS check on all transfers.........you cannot sel a gun without an FFL.................especially thru a gun forum.
GB requires a gun license filed with them, to post guns for sale now........
ATF rules being challenged at SCOTUS currently , are
1. the Frame and Receiver rule and eventually an AWB case.
Other cases are in the Fed system....................changes monthly.
WAKE UP, READ.
Safer Communities Act...................LAW, not an ATF rule.
Congress passes bipartisan gun legislation, sending bill to Biden
The bill represents the most significant legislation addressing guns in nearly 30 years.
www.cbsnews.com
We hope it is unconstitutional................................HOPE,............BUT IT IS FEDERAL LAW.
All sales have to be thru an FFL............to an FFL.............NICS check on all transfers.........you cannot sel a gun without an FFL.................especially thru a gun forum.
GB requires a gun license filed with them, to post guns for sale now........
ATF rules being challenged at SCOTUS currently , are
1. the Frame and Receiver rule and eventually an AWB case.
Other cases are in the Fed system....................changes monthly.
Cavalry
.308 Win
Thanks for proving my point. There is no law preventing private sale at a Federal level.FEDERAL LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS....................NOT AN ATF RULE.
WAKE UP, READ.
Safer Communities Act...................LAW, not an ATF rule.
Congress passes bipartisan gun legislation, sending bill to Biden
The bill represents the most significant legislation addressing guns in nearly 30 years.
We hope it is unconstitutional................................HOPE,............BUT IT IS FEDERAL LAW.
All sales have to be thru an FFL............to an FFL.............NICS check on all transfers.........you cannot sel a gun without an FFL.................especially thru a gun forum.
GB requires a gun license filed with them, to post guns for sale now........
ATF rules being challenged at SCOTUS currently , are
1. the Frame and Receiver rule and eventually an AWB case.
Other cases are in the Fed system....................changes monthly.
repete
.338 Win Mag
Keep reaching, but before posting this crap (we already know about) READ the dates! That was from 2022 the other from 2023 and neither prohibits a private sale. They do increase the age and that is age discrimination will be overturned if it hasn't already.FEDERAL LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS....................NOT AN ATF RULE.
WAKE UP, READ.
Safer Communities Act...................LAW, not an ATF rule.
Congress passes bipartisan gun legislation, sending bill to Biden
The bill represents the most significant legislation addressing guns in nearly 30 years.
We hope it is unconstitutional................................HOPE,............BUT IT IS FEDERAL LAW.
All sales have to be thru an FFL............to an FFL.............NICS check on all transfers.........you cannot sel a gun without an FFL.................especially thru a gun forum.
GB requires a gun license filed with them, to post guns for sale now........
ATF rules being challenged at SCOTUS currently , are
1. the Frame and Receiver rule and eventually an AWB case.
Other cases are in the Fed system....................changes monthly.
Suicide by NYSP or ATF.
arktimes.com
Man sold guns using, an FFL to do NICS checks for him at gun shows.
HE WAS IN THE BUSINESS........but no FFL or business license from state or local govt.
It is now illegal to sell any gun FTF to anyone unless you hold an FFL, and do a NICS check on the buyer.
SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT HAD A START DATE AFTER THE PASSING DATE...........
Suicide is easy..advertise guns on GB..oops you cannot anymore. Try it.
Bulletin boards are fastest and easiest way to go to jail now..
I do not know if it is reading comprehension, or simple IQ involved here.
Loopholes such as FTF at gun shows, or private FTF sales are illegal.
DO IT PLEASE DO IT.
UPDATE: ATF shooting of Bryan Malinowski was justified, prosecutor says after review - Arkansas Times
The ATF agent who shot Malinowski in his West Little Rock home "had a reasonable belief that deadly force was necessary to defend himself" and another agent, the prosecutor said.
arktimes.com
Man sold guns using, an FFL to do NICS checks for him at gun shows.
HE WAS IN THE BUSINESS........but no FFL or business license from state or local govt.
It is now illegal to sell any gun FTF to anyone unless you hold an FFL, and do a NICS check on the buyer.
SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT HAD A START DATE AFTER THE PASSING DATE...........
Suicide is easy..advertise guns on GB..oops you cannot anymore. Try it.
Bulletin boards are fastest and easiest way to go to jail now..
I do not know if it is reading comprehension, or simple IQ involved here.
Loopholes such as FTF at gun shows, or private FTF sales are illegal.
DO IT PLEASE DO IT.
Ps ................When will this law be declared unconstitutional............that is NICS checks on all FTF gun transfers.......NEVER,.
When will 'in the business" regulation be shitcanned..................possible, but still NICS checks.
It is legal.
WE ARE WAITING FOR NICS CHECKS TO BE REQUIRED ON SELLERS OF GUNS......TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN LEGALLY OWN A GUN YOU ARE SELLING.............ON THE FUCKING WAY.
When will 'in the business" regulation be shitcanned..................possible, but still NICS checks.
It is legal.
WE ARE WAITING FOR NICS CHECKS TO BE REQUIRED ON SELLERS OF GUNS......TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN LEGALLY OWN A GUN YOU ARE SELLING.............ON THE FUCKING WAY.
The old Chevron decision has recently been ruled on by SCOTUS.................it is diminished, depending on the case like bump stocks.................
ATF did not pass SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT............................ CONGRESS ..............House, Senate did and Biden signed it.
It is Federal Law. Not a joke.
ATF awaits your foolishness
ATF did not pass SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT............................ CONGRESS ..............House, Senate did and Biden signed it.
It is Federal Law. Not a joke.
ATF awaits your foolishness
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
There are millions of people that are ignorant of these gun laws that are unconstitutional and only make honest citizens into criminals because for the most part they make no reasonable sense. Just because someone is ignorant about a subject does not make them stupid or dense, to think so is stupid and dense.
Robin
Robin
Try to ship a gun without an FFL........................only USPS will do so and only then if it is to a FFL or FFL repairs shop.
UPS Fex Ex--no way.
www.atf.gov
2022......................... ATF arrests...........35000 for firearms violations.
9000 convictions, the rest plea bargained.
Who were those 35,000???
Local cops/NYSP arrest run of the mill gun crmes, but ATF gets the big number of who???????????????????
YOU
SELL SELL SELL FTF FTF FTF....................You will end up selling to an ATF agent with cash, or a CI
UPS Fex Ex--no way.
Fact Sheet - Facts and Figures for Fiscal Year 2023 | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Personnel Special Agents 2,597 Industry Operations Investigators 862 Administrative/professional/technical 1,822 Total full-time employees 5,281 Cases and Defendants Case and defendant data presents a snapshot in time of matters proceeding through the various phases of the judicial process. The...
9000 convictions, the rest plea bargained.
Who were those 35,000???
Local cops/NYSP arrest run of the mill gun crmes, but ATF gets the big number of who???????????????????
YOU
SELL SELL SELL FTF FTF FTF....................You will end up selling to an ATF agent with cash, or a CI
Fuck the ATF. Unelected!!
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Shawn Ryan Show: Sheriff Mark Lamb Has A Message
“My message to sheriffs is don't be afraid to do what is right:
- If they ever come to take guns, it'll be your sheriffs that'll either allow it or won't allow it
- Stand up and tell The FBI, nope, we're not doing that here
- If they ever come to take your freedom of speech, it'll be sheriffs who will allow it or won't allow it
- Sheriffs will have to tell the ATF “Get out of my county”
“It's probably gonna be very hard, but it's worth it.”
“It's worth standing in there and fighting for the people.”
“It is one of the most important positions in the government because the sheriff is the last line of defense for freedom”
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Shawn Ryan Show: Sheriff Mark Lamb Has A Message
“My message to sheriffs is don't be afraid to do what is right:
- If they ever come to take guns, it'll be your sheriffs that'll either allow it or won't allow it
- Stand up and tell The FBI, nope, we're not doing that here
- If they ever come to take your freedom of speech, it'll be sheriffs who will allow it or won't allow it
- Sheriffs will have to tell the ATF “Get out of my county”
“It's probably gonna be very hard, but it's worth it.”
“It's worth standing in there and fighting for the people.”
“It is one of the most important positions in the government because the sheriff is the last line of defense for freedom”
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
just because he was at a gun show selling some guns
DOES NOT MEAN HE IS IN THE BUSINESS
DOES NOT MEAN HE IS IN THE BUSINESS
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
well there has been a school shooting and a sniper on a highway ..
So you can take the SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT and shove it up someone's ass because it is now null and void.
it did not make anyone safe ..
So you can take the SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT and shove it up someone's ass because it is now null and void.
it did not make anyone safe ..
I am afraid as it is Fed law, passed by Congress, no matter what you think, it is much harder to sell a gun nowadays.............FtF is sketchy, even to a BIL............no nics check and you may be on the hook in 3 years.
This law is not going to be declared unconstitutional..............NICS CHECKS ARE LEGAL..............it simply requires you as a private seller..... to go thu a FFL to transfer or sell a gun. Consignment costs are about 15% thru my LGS, and included advertising on GB, and shipping to an FFL.
thegunzone.com
GB is the best way to sell a gun.....................Ftf to a seedy asshole may bite you hard and lose all gun rights.
I am not the ATF,,,,,,,I just have to inform you about what the law is.
This law is not going to be declared unconstitutional..............NICS CHECKS ARE LEGAL..............it simply requires you as a private seller..... to go thu a FFL to transfer or sell a gun. Consignment costs are about 15% thru my LGS, and included advertising on GB, and shipping to an FFL.
Do you need a license to sell firearms on GunBroker? | [July Updated]
Do you need a license to sell firearms on GunBroker? Yes, you generally need a license to sell firearms on GunBroker. The platform requires sellers to comply with federal, state, and local laws regarding the sale of firearms, which often includes possessing the appropriate licenses. What type of...
thegunzone.com
GB is the best way to sell a gun.....................Ftf to a seedy asshole may bite you hard and lose all gun rights.
I am not the ATF,,,,,,,I just have to inform you about what the law is.
Cavalry
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And you are doing a knock down job at doing a shitty job at it.
Get the militia's going!
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NC Sheriff calls on citizens to join neighboring counties in a militia.
Thing are getting serious?
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NC Sheriff calls on citizens to join neighboring counties in a militia.
Thing are getting serious?