Elon Suggesting That We Pay Our Officials More Money.

[FP1201]

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Not making it a goddamn career with term limits would solve a lot of that too.
The premise written into the Constitution intended short service Two years for Congress, Six for Senate, four for President: two terms each should be more than long enough.

 

[thughes]

Not making it a goddamn career with term limits would solve a lot of that too.
The premise written into the Constitution intended short service Two years for Congress, Six for Senate, four for President: two terms each should be more than long enough.

True, but you can flip those 2 terms into a pretty lucrative gig working as a lobbyist after your time is up, so there should be at least a five year moratorium on working for a lobbying firm post-service.

 

[SomeSoldier]

So essentially we must buy the officials we elect so nobody else can buy them?

Power will corrupt no matter how high a salary comes with it.

There is only one thing that can fix this.

 

[SomeSoldier]

There is a danger to making the pay of elected officials too low, and that is the risk of excluding the middle class from being able to afford to run for office. DC is absurdly expensive. If we capped their pay to, say, the average of their constituents, then only the wealthy would be able to afford to hold elected office.

The wealth can only afford elections now. Show me federal elected office who's campaign is less than half a million.

 

[Depick]

I haven't been impressed with the last 50 days of the current over lords at all. Our gun rights are still being attacked, inflations hasn't gone down one red penny- in fact it's getting worse and will get far worse with the trade war, crime isn't down, I could go on but...........

I will be honest I have mixed feelings on the recent tariffs. There is no way this increase in cost will not be passed on to the consumer.

Trumps work on the border, combating DEI and battling the national debt are exactly what this country needs.

We are roughly two months into his second term. I would say a little patience and some faith are in order.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

The wealth can only afford elections now. Show me federal elected office who's campaign is less than half a million.

721 House candidates, and 100 Senate candidates raised more than $500,000 for the 2024 election.

The senate is where the big money plays.

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[SonOfSun]

There is a danger to making the pay of elected officials too low, and that is the risk of excluding the middle class from being able to afford to run for office. DC is absurdly expensive. If we capped their pay to, say, the average of their constituents, then only the wealthy would be able to afford to hold elected office.

So... just like now?

 

[Saltwater60]

I believe serving as a politician should be voluntary, with basic health insurance and a stipend for room and board. And it shouldn't be a full time job, just a few months twice a year to assemble and get business done. All these scumbags say they want to "serve the people"....well if that's really your altruistic motive, you'd be happy to serve without the primary goal of getting rich.

At the very most, thier pay should remain the same but their health benefits shifted to the same private insurance that we serfs have to deal with, and the government pension replaced with a 401k (maybe give them a matching option up to 5%).

That's how you fix SS and health insurance for this country.

Fuck them.

Makes sense to me. Kind of like serving in the national guard. One weekend a month and two weeks out of the year. Most votes should be virtual to save the outrageous let down they get. It’s like $200 a day and they get an office in DC and an office back home that delay for. Make them remote positions.

 

[OwnTheRide]

The wealth can only afford elections now. Show me federal elected office who's campaign is less than half a million.

They aren't paying out of pocket, campaigns are run on funds from supporters, lobbyists, political parties, etc.

So... just like now?

A congressperson can get by in DC on their current $174k salary. It isn't luxurious living, but they can get by. They probably should be paid more, though.

 

[fresch]

Zoom call y'all.
They do not need to live in the swamp

 

[spat]

I thought the premise of Prison, having property seized, and even being hung was incentive enough NOT to break the law...apparently when you make the Laws, somehow they figure how they're exempt?

They don't figure.

They literally write exemptions into the law for themselves.

Congress critters are explicitly exempted from insider trading laws for instance.

 

[spat]

There is only one thing that can fix this.

Someone go get a shit load of rope...

 

[spat]

So... just like now?

Anyone can afford to *hold* office.

But only the wealthy can afford to *acquire* the office.


But, if we're going to pay them more, it needs to be in exchange for additional constraints on them financially.

 

[SomeSoldier]

They aren't paying out of pocket, campaigns are run on funds from supporters, lobbyists, political parties, etc.


A congressperson can get by in DC on their current $174k salary. It isn't luxurious living, but they can get by. They probably should be paid more, though.

The only reason that the cost in DC is so high is lobbyists. Get rid of them and watch the cost of living drop.

DC is a shithole.

 

[OwnTheRide]

The only reason that the cost in DC is so high is lobbyists. Get rid of them and watch the cost of living drop.

I don't know about that. The cost of living is insane in any major city.

DC is a shithole.

On this, we can certainly agree!

 

[spat]

I don't know about that. The cost of living is insane in any major city.



On this, we can certainly agree!

DC should not be a city.

There should be no civilian housing there, and no privately owned real estate at all.

It was meant to be an independent district, not a mini state.

 

[SonOfSun]

Anyone can afford to *hold* office.

But only the wealthy can afford to *acquire* the office.

That's what I was getting at however... The first part is moot since you have to acquire it first, and to do that you already need to be rich. The rich can already afford to get into office, this also means they can afford to be in office salary change or not because they are already rich.

The representation system is broken. They don't represent voters any more, and haven't for a long long time. You'll see me direct a lot of hate towards both Democrats and Republicans, and that's why. None of them, with very rare exception, really represent their voters. I doubt that any of them would even piss on you if you were on fire. Fuck em all, from Trump all the way down.

 

[Celt]

I think they should have lower pay, and no immunity to insider trading for any of their close family and relatives.

 

[spat]

That's what I was getting at however... The first part is moot since you have to acquire it first, and to do that you already need to be rich. The rich can already afford to get into office, this also means they can afford to be in office salary change or not because they are already rich.

The representation system is broken. They don't represent voters any more, and haven't for a long long time. You'll see me direct a lot of hate towards both Democrats and Republicans, and that's why. None of them, with very rare exception, really represent their voters. I doubt that any of them would even piss on you if you were on fire. Fuck em all, from Trump all the way down.

The problem came when we decided that democracy meant anyone with a pulse should be able to vote.

Our country was not designed to function with morons voting.

Not sure any country can.

But, morons are far more easily manipulated.

You can run a very totalitarian regime if you can pollute the electorate with easily manipulated rules, then just tell them to vote for whatever policy it is you want.


Just go back to the "landowner" requirement and we'd be a lot better off.

 

[Grimscale]

Just go back to the "landowner" requirement and we'd be a lot better off.

All that would do is limit voting to a few thousand super rich.
Productive people who rent would be locked out. Morons who inherited the family farm would be able to vote like morons.

Any citizen should be able to vote. It's our country.
And politicians should be REQUIRED to tell the truth while running for a position.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Anyone else buying this bullshit? They already have proven they cannot be trusted. They lie, cheat and steal. Yet he thinks we should pay them more. They current pay of $285k a year is in the top 5% of earners in the US. How can they be for the people when they can't understand what the people go through day to day. Their healthcare is like their current pay. They insider trade. They waste our money with fake aid for money laundering.

What I think needs to happen won't. I honestly think the country is done and will decay. It cannot be saved.

Greed has no limit. If anybody checks, every politician in Congress has a net worth over a million. How did AOC ACCRUE 3 mil plus when she couldn’t afford a Washington DC apartment. Musk,if suggesting this is totally wrong. Like pouring gas on a fire so it will burn out faster. WTF

 

[SomeSoldier]

The problem came when we decided that democracy meant anyone with a pulse should be able to vote.

Our country was not designed to function with morons voting.

Not sure any country can.

But, morons are far more easily manipulated.

You can run a very totalitarian regime if you can pollute the electorate with easily manipulated rules, then just tell them to vote for whatever policy it is you want.


Just go back to the "landowner" requirement and we'd be a lot better off.

There is definitely one item I think would certainly help if we repealed it but it will never happen.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Yeah, I don't know why years and years of bad decisions and corruption aren't being remedied in a little over two months lol. A lot of the same that said a Republican won't win the presidency. Holy speed of light Batman, people really need to give things some time. BTW, as I look around my house I see very little things that say, "Made in Canada."

 

[spat]

All that would do is limit voting to a few thousand super rich.
Productive people who rent would be locked out. Morons who inherited the family farm would be able to vote like morons.

Any citizen should be able to vote. It's our country.
And politicians should be REQUIRED to tell the truth while running for a position.

Way more people are landowners than a few super rich.

What it would do is shift the voting demographic very strongly to rural areas where even the poor tend to own property, and away from urban areas where even upper middle class rent.