Forced reset trigger ban, overturned / FRT update: Trumps ATF settles, what about NYS? (merged threads)

[dean3690]

Now that FRT's (Forced Reset Triggers) are legal again at the Fed level, what is the status in NYS? Are FRT's banned by legislation in NYS?

An FRT is not a banned feature of a semi auto rifle, shotgun or pistol in the SAFE Act.

 

[dsdmmat]

I am surprised you have to ask. If it is fun it is banned in the PRNY.
The bill below never became law so the FRT may be legal. But that is just a quick google search. Not sure if there is anything else out there.

https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2019/S2448

 

[Saltwater60]

Big it’s not illegal it will be. They will give up there summer break to accomplish this.

 

[Celt]

Its a good thing, but we are a long way from freedom in new yorkistan

 

[Defilade]

Who the fuck cares about that trigger. Mag cap bans, Ammo background, Rifle bans is where it's at.

 

[dean3690]

Each and every brick in the wall is important. Mag cap bans, Ammo background, feature bans, definitely more important. The FRT is another item in common use like a taser and standard capacity mags, etc. and provide a practical example and evidence to bolster turning over the bans. The Trump Admin agency decisions are important and set the tone for continued support of 2A rights by the government in both current court cases and in bringing new ones.

 

[FP1201]

I was certain the Legislature passed Laws prohibiting FRT's rubber bands, Cranks, and other devices to speed up the individual trigger pull for each shot, and given the ten round maximum capacity, having one is anticlimactic at best.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Who the fuck cares about that trigger. Mag cap bans, Ammo background, Rifle bans is where it's at.

We should not be picking and choosing what we don`t or do care about. We have to support ALL, or we lose ALL. Any step in the direction of saving one piece, one part, one gun, whether we like them or not, we have to support every win for those who choose to want them, even if its something we don`t care about.

I had a friend, who didn`t care about the bumpie stock ban because it didnt effect HIM, or anything he owned. I told him that he SHOULD care about the bumpie ban, he wanted to know why i defended the the bumpie stocks when i never had or wanted one... so i asked him, what his thoughts on his magazines that use to be legal, then suddenly they were no longer legal to have... he said that`s different, then i asked how so, because you owned them and now you`re mad and only want to defend what is yours? What about the people who lost their bumpie stocks, how do you think they feel about losing what they owned. He change his tune about saving ALL, even if he didnt want or have specific things. I hope you will support ALL, going forward. Its one for ALL, ALL for one. This IS, OUR fight, everything matters within our hobby and our sport.

This kind of thing always reminds me of all those selfish BlackLivesMatter signs. Fukk that bullsh!t, ALL lives matter, just like ALL our guns and parts matter.

 

[holdover]

The Justice Department on Friday announced a settlement in a lawsuit brought by the National Association for Gun Rights. The lawsuit challenged an ATF rule banning “forced reset triggers” — devices that allow semiautomatic weapons to fire rapid bursts of bullets.


“This Department of Justice believes that the 2nd Amendment is not a second-class right,” Attorney General Pamela Bondi said in a statement. “And we are glad to end a needless cycle of litigation with a settlement that will enhance public safety.”

The move comes after a majority of judges on the conservative 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals appeared to side with the gun rights group during oral arguments in the case in December. The judges cited a Supreme Court decision last year finding that another rapid-fire device, called a bump stock, did not convert firearms into illegal machine guns.

Since the forced reset trigger devices will not be considered firearms, they can be purchased anonymously, without a background or age check. Machine guns have been illegal in the United States since 1986, a notion that even gun rights groups have come to accept.

one person familiar with the settlement told NBC News. “ATF must also return thousands of seized forced reset triggers to their previous owners.

Trump admin permits sale of device that allows standard firearms to fire like machine guns

Gun control groups condemned the move as “a dangerous backroom deal spearheaded by Trump’s general counsel” that “effectively legalized machine guns.”

www.nbcnews.com

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I was certain the Legislature passed Laws prohibiting FRT's rubber bands, Cranks, and other devices to speed up the individual trigger pull for each shot, and given the ten round maximum capacity, having one is anticlimactic at best.

I believe you`re right about this. These triggers are likely NOT legal to possess or buy here in the (NY) queens commie country.

 

[Grimscale]

Figures NBC "news" would include all sorts of falsehoods in their article.

"devices that allow semiautomatic weapons to fire rapid bursts of bullets"
"Machine guns have been illegal in the United States since 1986, a notion that even gun rights groups have come to accept."

I'm surprised they weren't screaming in abject terror about how the streets will run red with the blood of the innocent and children.

 

[Cavalry]

The FRT settlement is far from a good thing.

This breaks it down very well

 

[Zerex]

TRY TO FUCKING BUY ONE IN NYS...............BANNED BY NYS LAW.

More litigation will be required, to overturn the twins rules.

 

[Zerex]

AI Overview
Learn more

New York state has banned forced reset triggers, which are devices designed to increase the rate of fire of semi-automatic firearms. This action was taken in response to concerns about the frequency of AR-15-style weapons being used in mass shootings. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) previously deemed these devices to be machine guns and banned their sale. The New York case led to a court ruling blocking a company, Rare Breed Triggers, from selling them. NPR reported.

Bump stocks are also still illegal in NYS..................also,try to buy a full featured AW, in this iron curtain land.

 

[FP1201]

The Justice Department on Friday announced a settlement in a lawsuit brought by the National Association for Gun Rights. The lawsuit challenged an ATF rule banning “forced reset triggers” — devices that allow semiautomatic weapons to fire rapid bursts of bullets.


“This Department of Justice believes that the 2nd Amendment is not a second-class right,” Attorney General Pamela Bondi said in a statement. “And we are glad to end a needless cycle of litigation with a settlement that will enhance public safety.”

The move comes after a majority of judges on the conservative 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals appeared to side with the gun rights group during oral arguments in the case in December. The judges cited a Supreme Court decision last year finding that another rapid-fire device, called a bump stock, did not convert firearms into illegal machine guns.

Since the forced reset trigger devices will not be considered firearms, they can be purchased anonymously, without a background or age check. Machine guns have been illegal in the United States since 1986, a notion that even gun rights groups have come to accept.

one person familiar with the settlement told NBC News. “ATF must also return thousands of seized forced reset triggers to their previous owners.

Trump admin permits sale of device that allows standard firearms to fire like machine guns

Gun control groups condemned the move as “a dangerous backroom deal spearheaded by Trump’s general counsel” that “effectively legalized machine guns.”

www.nbcnews.com

IF they still have them, and personnel to mail them back.

 

[FP1201]

TRY TO FUCKING BUY ONE IN NYS...............BANNED BY NYS LAW.

More litigation will be required, to overturn the twins rules.

Nice thing about traveling and having a Home outside of the State...

 

[dsdmmat]

AI Overview
Learn more

New York state has banned forced reset triggers, which are devices designed to increase the rate of fire of semi-automatic firearms. This action was taken in response to concerns about the frequency of AR-15-style weapons being used in mass shootings. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) previously deemed these devices to be machine guns and banned their sale. The New York case led to a court ruling blocking a company, Rare Breed Triggers, from selling them. NPR reported.

Bump stocks are also still illegal in NYS..................also,try to buy a full featured AW, in this iron curtain land.

Really like to see the law not the AI’s opinion.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Really like to see the law not the AI’s opinion.

Absolutely THIS!!! ^^^^^^
As far as i`m concerned, AI is NOT mainly going to be used for what people have been told it would be used for. It will be programmed to condition the human mind. Its just a faster way of poisoning the brains of ALOT MORE ignorant people in a shorter amount of time. You heard it here, first!.

We are seeing AI being brought in under false pretenses! Its a manipulator!

 

[Defilade]

We should not be picking and choosing what we don`t or do care about. We have to support ALL, or we lose ALL. Any step in the direction of saving one piece, one part, one gun, whether we like them or not, we have to support every win for those who choose to want them, even if its something we don`t care about.

I had a friend, who didn`t care about the bumpie stock ban because it didnt effect HIM, or anything he owned. I told him that he SHOULD care about the bumpie ban, he wanted to know why i defended the the bumpie stocks when i never had or wanted one... so i asked him, what his thoughts on his magazines that use to be legal, then suddenly they were no longer legal to have... he said that`s different, then i asked how so, because you owned them and now you`re mad and only want to defend what is yours? What about the people who lost their bumpie stocks, how do you think they feel about losing what they owned. He change his tune about saving ALL, even if he didnt want or have specific things. I hope you will support ALL, going forward. Its one for ALL, ALL for one. This IS, OUR fight, everything matters within our hobby and our sport.

This kind of thing always reminds me of all those selfish BlackLivesMatter signs. Fukk that bullsh!t, ALL lives matter, just like ALL our guns and parts matter.

I get that but let's get to the meat and patatoes

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I get that but let's get to the meat and patatoes

Yup, i agree brother, we`re all patiently waiting. But we`ve got to stick together and support everything we can.
I`m pretty old too, my time is running out on my life clock, i`d like to see some freedom back again before i`m gone.

 

[dean3690]

I found the applicable NYS laws here:

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
updated 4/4/25
Section 265 Definitions
26. Rapid Fire Modification Device
29. Binary Trigger System

NYS Open Legislation |

www.nysenate.gov

updated 11/29/19
265.01-C Criminal Possession of a Rapid-Fire Modification Device

 

[dean3690]

IF they still have them, and personnel to mail them back.

Or if they don't have them, having to purchase them from Rare Breed and have Rare Breed send them out with tracking.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

This was a very bad decision to dismiss this case. One more fuk-up by Plan Blondie, again. This case should have been decided in the SCOTUS. Now blue states will still continue to infringe, and now RB triggers will be able to monopolize the industry on this type of trigger going forward.

Plan Blondie did this on purpose, KNOWING, this would continue to keep these triggers out of the hands of many!

 

[Zerex]

No, SCOTUS already decided the Bump Stock case.....................if you read this decision, the mechanics of the AR trigger operation is gone into deep detail, about how the mechanism works..............WRITTEN BY THE COURT.........


It legalized bump stocks, as requiring the pull of the trigger for each shot..................identical to the FRT..............that is why Bondi can get away with this............

Now a lower court also legalized new production MG's.........and the SCOTUS will be forced to agree.................so Bondi can act the same way, as the court does not want to hear the 1986 Hughes Amendment Case...................

Ghost guns, are however, not going to be challenged by bondi........even though he Court said she could.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

No, SCOTUS already decided the Bump Stock case.....................if you read this decision, the mechanics of the AR trigger operation is gone into deep detail, about how the mechanism works..............WRITTEN BY THE COURT.........


It legalized bump stocks, as requiring the pull of the trigger for each shot..................identical to the FRT..............that is why Bondi can get away with this............

Now a lower court also legalized new production MG's.........and the SCOTUS will be forced to agree.................so Bondi can act the same way, as the court does not want to hear the 1986 Hughes Amendment Case...................

Ghost guns, are however, not going to be challenged by bondi........even though he Court said she could.

So, can you buy and install one of these types of triggers in YOUR AR here in NYS? No, you can`t. Therefore, some states can, and WILL, still infringe! Had this case gone to the SCOTUS, it would have dealt a much heavier blow, and no state could ban them.

 

[Robin]

They're scared to take on Ghost guns.
FUNY!
Robin

 

[prambo]

The"Law" in NYS, at all levels, and in all things, well...